From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Ed Tomlinson <tomlins@cam.org>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: 2.5.33-mm1
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:33:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D757F11.B72BB708@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200209032251.54795.tomlins@cam.org
Ed Tomlinson wrote:
>
> On September 3, 2002 09:13 pm, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > ext3_inode_cache 959 2430 448 264 270 1
> >
> > That's 264 pages in use, 270 total. If there's a persistent gap between
> > these then there is a problem - could well be that slablru is not locating
> > the pages which were liberated by the pruning sufficiently quickly.
>
> Sufficiently quickly is a relative thing.
Those pages are useless! It's silly having slab hanging onto them
while we go and reclaim useful pagecache instead.
I *really* think we need to throw away those pages instantly.
The only possible reason for hanging onto them is because they're
cache-warm. And we need a global-scope cpu-local hot pages queue
anyway.
And once we have that, slab _must_ release its warm pages into it.
It's counterproductive for slab to hang onto warm pages when, say,
a pagefault needs one.
> It could also be that by the time the
> pages are reclaimed another <n> have been cleaned. IMO its no worst than
> have freeable pages on lru from any other source. If we get close to oom
> we will call kmem_cache_reap, otherwise we let the lru find the pages.
As I say, by not releasing those (useless to slab) pages, we're causing
other (useful) stuff to be reclaimed.
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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
To: Ed Tomlinson <tomlins@cam.org>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: 2.5.33-mm1
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:33:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D757F11.B72BB708@zip.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200209032251.54795.tomlins@cam.org
Ed Tomlinson wrote:
>
> On September 3, 2002 09:13 pm, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > ext3_inode_cache 959 2430 448 264 270 1
> >
> > That's 264 pages in use, 270 total. If there's a persistent gap between
> > these then there is a problem - could well be that slablru is not locating
> > the pages which were liberated by the pruning sufficiently quickly.
>
> Sufficiently quickly is a relative thing.
Those pages are useless! It's silly having slab hanging onto them
while we go and reclaim useful pagecache instead.
I *really* think we need to throw away those pages instantly.
The only possible reason for hanging onto them is because they're
cache-warm. And we need a global-scope cpu-local hot pages queue
anyway.
And once we have that, slab _must_ release its warm pages into it.
It's counterproductive for slab to hang onto warm pages when, say,
a pagefault needs one.
> It could also be that by the time the
> pages are reclaimed another <n> have been cleaned. IMO its no worst than
> have freeable pages on lru from any other source. If we get close to oom
> we will call kmem_cache_reap, otherwise we let the lru find the pages.
As I say, by not releasing those (useless to slab) pages, we're causing
other (useful) stuff to be reclaimed.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-09-04 3:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-04 2:51 2.5.33-mm1 Ed Tomlinson
2002-09-04 2:51 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Ed Tomlinson
2002-09-04 3:33 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-09-04 3:33 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Andrew Morton
2002-09-04 19:25 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-09-04 19:25 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-09-04 20:18 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Andrew Morton
2002-09-04 20:18 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Andrew Morton
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-04 9:06 2.5.33-mm2 Andrew Morton
2002-09-04 17:16 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Paul Larson
2002-09-04 18:02 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Andrew Morton
2002-09-04 20:07 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Paul Larson
2002-09-03 4:16 2.5.33-mm1 Andrew Morton
2002-09-03 4:16 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Andrew Morton
2002-09-04 0:40 ` 2.5.33-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-04 0:40 ` 2.5.33-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-04 0:53 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Rik van Riel
2002-09-04 0:53 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Rik van Riel
2002-09-04 1:13 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Andrew Morton
2002-09-04 1:13 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Andrew Morton
2002-09-04 1:15 ` 2.5.33-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-04 1:15 ` 2.5.33-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-04 1:37 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Andrew Morton
2002-09-04 1:37 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Andrew Morton
2002-09-04 2:55 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Ed Tomlinson
2002-09-04 2:55 ` 2.5.33-mm1 Ed Tomlinson
2002-09-04 2:54 ` 2.5.33-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-04 2:54 ` 2.5.33-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
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