[parisc-linux] Re: [lists] installing Linux on A Visualise C240

[parisc-linux] Re: [lists] installing Linux on A Visualise C240

[dann]

Yves,
  forwarding to the parisc-linux, which is a more appropriate place
for this question.

as an aside, 0.9.3 is not the latest release - debian 3.0 contains newer bits.
<hint>maybe one of these days someone will point that out on -announce</hint>


On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 11:46:39PM +0200, Yves Vrijhoeven wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I downloaded the "palinux-0.9.3.iso" and burned it to CD.  If I put the CD in PA RISC powerd PC (Visualise C240) and boot with the command "bo sescsi.3.0" the PC seems to boot from the CD (I get somewhere the message "palo ipl 0.96 root@palinux Fri Nov  2 16:31:18 MST 2001" ...(clock setting is not correct))
> Everything seems ok until I get the message:
> ...
> Branching to kernel entry point 0x00100000.  If this is the last message you see, you may need to switch your console.  This is a common sympton -- sarch the FAQ and mailing list at parisc-linux.org
> 
> After this nothing happens anymore.  I searched the FAQ and mailing list but I could not find a solution so far.
> 
> Anyone can help me out on this.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Please E-mail me.
> 
> Yves Vrijhoeven
> yves.vrijhoeven@belgacom.net
> yvesvrijhoeven@belgacom.net

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Re: [parisc-linux] Re: [lists] installing Linux on A Visualise C240

[Joel Soete]

dann wrote:
> Yves,
>   forwarding to the parisc-linux, which is a more appropriate place
> for this question.
> 
> as an aside, 0.9.3 is not the latest release - debian 3.0 contains newer bits.
> <hint>maybe one of these days someone will point that out on -announce</hint>

Dann you have right 0.9.3 iso is quiet old and Debian3.0r0 iso are 
referenced on :http://www.parisc-linux.org/index.html (i do not find it 
any more on .de? but well on .se)

As well as the net install iso (when it is possible to install over a 
network connection) which offer the advantage to propose the last 
development kernel :)

Yves, good luck

	Joel

Re: [parisc-linux] Re: [lists] installing Linux on A Visualise C240

[Derek Engelhaupt]

Yves,

I had this same issue with my C180 workstation when booting from my
graphics card loaded in the card cage.  I was able to get the system to
work using my onboard graphics port, but the C240 does not have an
onboard graphics port.  My external graphics card is not supported
(A4071A).  More than likely you have a graphics card in there that is
not supported yet and more than likely never will be.  There is little
information about HP graphics cards out there in order to write the
drivers for them.  If you could give us the product number of the card
we could tell you whether or not it is a supported card.  If it is
supported there is a configuration in the boot handler that is not
correct.  The product number is a letter followed by 4 number then a
letter (ex: A3312A) if you aren't familier with HP product codes.

derek

  
--- Joel Soete <joel.soete@freebel.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> dann wrote:
> > Yves,
> >   forwarding to the parisc-linux, which is a more appropriate place
> > for this question.
> > 
> > as an aside, 0.9.3 is not the latest release - debian 3.0 contains
> newer bits.
> > <hint>maybe one of these days someone will point that out on
> -announce</hint>
> 
> Dann you have right 0.9.3 iso is quiet old and Debian3.0r0 iso are 
> referenced on :http://www.parisc-linux.org/index.html (i do not find
> it 
> any more on .de? but well on .se)
> 
> As well as the net install iso (when it is possible to install over a
> 
> network connection) which offer the advantage to propose the last 
> development kernel :)
> 
> Yves, good luck
> 
> 	Joel
> 
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[parisc-linux] With all this talk about graphics...

[Derek Engelhaupt]

Well I was actually looking for something else when I ran across these
two links.  I don't know if they are helpful or if they have already
been referenced as far as creating drivers for some of the older and
newer graphics cards.  Since I'm not a software guy I wasn't aware if
they would be helpful or not.


http://docs.hp.com/cgi-bin/onlinedocs.py?mpn=B2355-90142&service=hpux&path=../B2355-90142/00/00/1&title=Graphics%20Administration%20Guide

http://docs.hp.com/cgi-bin/onlinedocs.py?mpn=B2355-90143&service=hpux&path=../B2355-90143/00/00/1&title=Starbase%20Technical%20Addendum%20for%20the%20July%2C%201997%20Workstation%20ACE%20for%20HP-UX%2010.20

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[parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE

[Derek Engelhaupt]

Hey all,

Currently when my system boots up the X11 login window starts up
automatically and I can log in and use it normally, but when I log out
the mouse quits working.  The X11 login window appears again, but the
mouse won't move anymore.  I'm just using a standard PS/2 HP 3 button
mouse - nothing fancy on my C180.  Also, why is it that Konqueror won't
do https sites?  And if it will what could possibly be the problem with
that?  Thanks.

### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by
dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make
changes
# before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the
# "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see "How do I add custom sections to a
dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in
/usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section "Files"
        FontPath        "unix/:7100"                    # local font
server
        # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on
these
        FontPath        "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
        FontPath        "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
        FontPath        "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
        FontPath        "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
        FontPath        "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
        FontPath        "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load    "GLcore"
        Load    "bitmap"
        Load    "dbe"
        Load    "ddc"
        Load    "dri"
        Load    "extmod"
        Load    "freetype"
        Load    "glx"
        Load    "int10"
        Load    "pex5"
        Load    "record"
        Load    "speedo"
        Load    "type1"
        Load    "vbe"
        Load    "xie"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Generic Keyboard"
        Driver          "keyboard"
        Option          "CoreKeyboard"
        Option          "XkbRules"      "xfree86"
        Option          "XkbModel"      "pc101"
        Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
        Driver          "mouse"
        Option          "CorePointer"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
        Option          "Protocol"              "PS/2"
        Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "true"
        Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "Generic Mouse"
        Driver          "mouse"
        Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
        Option          "Protocol"              "ImPS/2"
        Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "true"
        Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier      "Generic Video Card"
        Driver          "fbdev"
        Option          "UseFBDev"              "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier      "Generic Monitor"
        HorizSync       30-60
        VertRefresh     50-75
        Option          "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier      "Default Screen"
        Device          "Generic Video Card"
        Monitor         "Generic Monitor"
        DefaultDepth    8
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           1
                Modes           "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           4
                Modes           "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           8
                Modes           "1280x1024"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           15
                Modes           "1024x768"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           16
                Modes           "1024x768"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth           24
                Modes           "1024x768"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier      "Default Layout"
        Screen          "Default Screen"
        InputDevice     "Generic Keyboard"
        InputDevice     "Configured Mouse"
        InputDevice     "Generic Mouse"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
        Mode    0666
EndSection

### END DEBCONF SECTION


derek


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Re: [parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE

[Grant Grundler]

Derek Engelhaupt wrote:
> Currently when my system boots up the X11 login window starts up
> automatically and I can log in and use it normally, but when I log out
> the mouse quits working.  The X11 login window appears again, but the
> mouse won't move anymore.  I'm just using a standard PS/2 HP 3 button
> mouse - nothing fancy on my C180.

Known problem. I don't know if this bug is parisc specific.

> Also, why is it that Konqueror won't do https sites? 
> And if it will what could possibly be the problem with that?  Thanks.

apt-get install kdebase-crypto

(IIRC, it was Ryan Murray of debian.org who told me that)

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE

[Bryan W. Headley]

Derek Engelhaupt wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> Currently when my system boots up the X11 login window starts up
> automatically and I can log in and use it normally, but when I log out
> the mouse quits working.  The X11 login window appears again, but the
> mouse won't move anymore.  I'm just using a standard PS/2 HP 3 button
> mouse - nothing fancy on my C180.  Also, why is it that Konqueror won't
> do https sites?  And if it will what could possibly be the problem with
> that?  Thanks.

I assume you are running the gpm mouse daemon as well. If you tell X to 
use the gpm mouse (/dev/gpmdata), you should be okay. Personally, I just 
turn off the gpm daemon, because I don't need a mouse in console mode.

(It's not a parisc-only bug: I see this on virtually every Debian platform)

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Re: [parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE

[Joel Soete]

Bryan W. Headley wrote:
> Derek Engelhaupt wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Currently when my system boots up the X11 login window starts up
>> automatically and I can log in and use it normally, but when I log out
>> the mouse quits working.  The X11 login window appears again, but the
>> mouse won't move anymore.  I'm just using a standard PS/2 HP 3 button
>> mouse - nothing fancy on my C180.  Also, why is it that Konqueror won't
>> do https sites?  And if it will what could possibly be the problem with
>> that?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> I assume you are running the gpm mouse daemon as well. If you tell X to 
> use the gpm mouse (/dev/gpmdata), you should be okay.

Hmm, long time ago I test this (because that was like this I configure 
my i386 boxe) but it did not work. Does it work now on parisc?

> Personally, I just 
> turn off the gpm daemon, because I don't need a mouse in console mode.
> 
> (It's not a parisc-only bug: I see this on virtually every Debian platform)
> 
with kde ?

Because with the same software config (gdm + xfce + xfree86-4.1) the 
same problem occurs on my parisc (b180) and not on my i386 (on which I 
also use /dev/psaux as mouse device)?

(sorry (I would be of better help) I never have time to investigate in 
more details this problem. And I do not remember exactly if it was 
always there or if it appears with a new release of xfree86 or with a 
new kernel release? Is some one can refresh my memory?)

Joel

Re: [parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE

[Joel Soete]

Oops so old: 
http://lists.parisc-linux.org/pipermail/parisc-linux/2001-October/014145.html 


Well IIRC, at this time I encounter a problem with Xfree86 config (a 
change in stifb (kernel 2.4.9-pa57) required that the screen mode match 
exactly the hw definition) but it was also the first time that I test 
xdm (previously I only used startx).

Joel

Joel Soete wrote:
> 
> 
> Bryan W. Headley wrote:
> 
>> Derek Engelhaupt wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Currently when my system boots up the X11 login window starts up
>>> automatically and I can log in and use it normally, but when I log out
>>> the mouse quits working.  The X11 login window appears again, but the
>>> mouse won't move anymore.  I'm just using a standard PS/2 HP 3 button
>>> mouse - nothing fancy on my C180.  Also, why is it that Konqueror won't
>>> do https sites?  And if it will what could possibly be the problem with
>>> that?  Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> I assume you are running the gpm mouse daemon as well. If you tell X 
>> to use the gpm mouse (/dev/gpmdata), you should be okay.
> 
> 
> Hmm, long time ago I test this (because that was like this I configure 
> my i386 boxe) but it did not work. Does it work now on parisc?
> 
>> Personally, I just turn off the gpm daemon, because I don't need a 
>> mouse in console mode.
>>
>> (It's not a parisc-only bug: I see this on virtually every Debian 
>> platform)
>>
> with kde ?
> 
> Because with the same software config (gdm + xfce + xfree86-4.1) the 
> same problem occurs on my parisc (b180) and not on my i386 (on which I 
> also use /dev/psaux as mouse device)?
> 
> (sorry (I would be of better help) I never have time to investigate in 
> more details this problem. And I do not remember exactly if it was 
> always there or if it appears with a new release of xfree86 or with a 
> new kernel release? Is some one can refresh my memory?)
> 
> Joel
> 
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Re: [parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE

[Bryan W. Headley]

Joel Soete wrote:

>> I assume you are running the gpm mouse daemon as well. If you tell X 
>> to use the gpm mouse (/dev/gpmdata), you should be okay.
> 
> 
> Hmm, long time ago I test this (because that was like this I configure 
> my i386 boxe) but it did not work. Does it work now on parisc?

Last time I checked, it did. Debconf and I have a difference of opinion 
about it's overwriting XF86Config-4 after I hand-edit it. So and X 
upgrade arrives, and the config file gets overwritten. :-)

>>
> with kde ?

No, I've seen it with Gnome also, on: alpha, ppc, sparc, and i386.

> 
> Because with the same software config (gdm + xfce + xfree86-4.1) the 
> same problem occurs on my parisc (b180) and not on my i386 (on which I 
> also use /dev/psaux as mouse device)?
> 

But, IS gpm running? Both it and the X server are trying to grab events 
from /dev/psaux...

> (sorry (I would be of better help) I never have time to investigate in 
> more details this problem. And I do not remember exactly if it was 
> always there or if it appears with a new release of xfree86 or with a 
> new kernel release? Is some one can refresh my memory?)

Seen it on X 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2. So I'd say it's not kernel-related.

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Re: [parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE

[jsoe0708]

>-- Original Message --
>Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 16:45:47 -0500
>From: "Bryan W. Headley" <bwheadley@earthlink.net>
>To: Joel Soete <joel.soete@freebel.net>
>CC: Derek Engelhaupt <derekengelhaupt@rocketmail.com>, 
> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
>Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE
>
>
>Joel Soete wrote:
>
>>> I assume you are running the gpm mouse daemon as well. If you tell X

>>> to use the gpm mouse (/dev/gpmdata), you should be okay.
>> 
>> 
>> Hmm, long time ago I test this (because that was like this I configure
>
>> my i386 boxe) but it did not work. Does it work now on parisc?
>
>Last time I checked, it did. Debconf and I have a difference of opinion

>about it's overwriting XF86Config-4 after I hand-edit it. So and X 
>upgrade arrives, and the config file gets overwritten. :-)
>
>>>
>> with kde ?
>
>No, I've seen it with Gnome also, on: alpha, ppc, sparc, and i386.
>
>> 
>> Because with the same software config (gdm + xfce + xfree86-4.1) the 
>> same problem occurs on my parisc (b180) and not on my i386 (on which I
>
>> also use /dev/psaux as mouse device)?
>> 
>
>But, IS gpm running? 

Yes on both machine

>Both it and the X server are trying to grab events 
>from /dev/psaux...
>
>> (sorry (I would be of better help) I never have time to investigate in
>
>> more details this problem. And I do not remember exactly if it was 
>> always there or if it appears with a new release of xfree86 or with a

>> new kernel release? Is some one can refresh my memory?)
>
>Seen it on X 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2. So I'd say it's not kernel-related.
>
Ha Ok

Thanks for info, (I will try to fond time for additional test)
    Joel

Re: [parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE

[jsoe0708]

Hi Brian,

>-- Original Message --
>Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 16:45:47 -0500
>From: "Bryan W. Headley" <bwheadley@earthlink.net>
>To: Joel Soete <joel.soete@freebel.net>
>CC: Derek Engelhaupt <derekengelhaupt@rocketmail.com>, 
> parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org
>Subject: Re: [parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE
>
>
>Joel Soete wrote:
>
>>> I assume you are running the gpm mouse daemon as well. If you tell X

>>> to use the gpm mouse (/dev/gpmdata), you should be okay.
>> 
>> 
>> Hmm, long time ago I test this (because that was like this I configure
>
>> my i386 boxe) but it did not work. Does it work now on parisc?
>
>Last time I checked, it did.

Sorry, the last test I do on my b180 and gpmdata as mouse driver does not
work :)
(xfree86-4.1)

Hmm I just notice this funny behaviour:
I start gdm, I login -> the cursor work normaly :)
I quit my X session -> the cursor doesn't work any more ...
I would like to see at the console if I can see some error messages, so I
swich to sti mode (CTRL+ALT f1)... ok that works. No error messages, so I
can come back to gdm login screen (CTRL+ALT f7), oh the cursor move again
normaly ?

Any idea?

Thanks in advance,
    Joel

PS: kernel 2.4.18-pa61 + apt-get dist_upgrade this 2002-09-24

Re: [parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE

[Bryan W. Headley]

jsoe0708@tiscali.be wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> 
> Sorry, the last test I do on my b180 and gpmdata as mouse driver does not
> work :)
> (xfree86-4.1)
> 
Forgot what mouse type you're supposed to tell X you have. Just tried it 
on my i386, and had a hung mouse real fast! I thought it was Imps/2, but 
obviously not...

You are right -- if you return to the console with control-alt-F[1-6], 
and then back again, the issue clears up. It's a well-known but 
irritating "solution"



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Re: [parisc-linux] Mouse stops working when exiting KDE

[jsoe0708]

>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> Sorry, the last test I do on my b180 and gpmdata as mouse driver does
not
>> work :)
>> (xfree86-4.1)
>> 
>Forgot what mouse type you're supposed to tell X you have. Just tried it
>
>on my i386, and had a hung mouse real fast! I thought it was Imps/2, but
>
>obviously not...
>
>You are right -- if you return to the console with control-alt-F[1-6], 
>and then back again, the issue clears up. It's a well-known but 
>irritating "solution"

Ah, I am not an 'e X pert' :)) and I am ignoring (thanks).

In the mean time, I recieved a mail from Branden Robinson <branden@debian.org>
proposing it is help. He will need some help with 'try an experimental debugging
X server package. Ever used gdb to attach to a running X server before?'.

If you feel more competent (I am not very capable in X field) and more time
(than I) I can send you its answer?

Cheers,
    Joel