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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	owner-linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] recognize MAP_LOCKED in mmap() call
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:54:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D88D9DE.2FB9A23D@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: OFC0C42F8D.E1325D58-ON86256C38.00695CD8@hou.us.ray.com

Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com wrote:
> 
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> >(SuS really only anticipates that mmap needs to look at prior mlocks
> >in force against the address range.  It also says
> >
> >     Process memory locking does apply to shared memory regions,
> >
> >and we don't do that either.  I think we should; can't see why SuS
> >requires this.)
> 
> Let me make sure I read what you said correctly. Does this mean that Linux
> 2.4 (or 2.5) kernels do not lock shared memory regions if a process uses
> mlockall?

Linux does lock these regions.  SuS seems to imply that we shouldn't.
But we should.

> If not, that is *really bad* for our real time applications. We don't want
> to take a page fault while running some 80hz task, just because some
> non-real time application tried to use what little physical memory we allow
> for the kernel and all other applications.
> 
> I asked a related question about a week ago on linux-mm and didn't get a
> response. Basically, I was concerned that top did not show RSS == Size when
> mlockall(MCL_CURRENT|MCL_FUTURE) was called. Could this explain the
> difference or is there something else that I'm missing here?
> 

That mlockall should have faulted everything in.  It could be an
accounting bug, or it could be a bug.  That's not an aspect which
gets tested a lot.  I'll take a look.

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	owner-linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] recognize MAP_LOCKED in mmap() call
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:54:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D88D9DE.2FB9A23D@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: OFC0C42F8D.E1325D58-ON86256C38.00695CD8@hou.us.ray.com

Mark_H_Johnson@raytheon.com wrote:
> 
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> >(SuS really only anticipates that mmap needs to look at prior mlocks
> >in force against the address range.  It also says
> >
> >     Process memory locking does apply to shared memory regions,
> >
> >and we don't do that either.  I think we should; can't see why SuS
> >requires this.)
> 
> Let me make sure I read what you said correctly. Does this mean that Linux
> 2.4 (or 2.5) kernels do not lock shared memory regions if a process uses
> mlockall?

Linux does lock these regions.  SuS seems to imply that we shouldn't.
But we should.

> If not, that is *really bad* for our real time applications. We don't want
> to take a page fault while running some 80hz task, just because some
> non-real time application tried to use what little physical memory we allow
> for the kernel and all other applications.
> 
> I asked a related question about a week ago on linux-mm and didn't get a
> response. Basically, I was concerned that top did not show RSS == Size when
> mlockall(MCL_CURRENT|MCL_FUTURE) was called. Could this explain the
> difference or is there something else that I'm missing here?
> 

That mlockall should have faulted everything in.  It could be an
accounting bug, or it could be a bug.  That's not an aspect which
gets tested a lot.  I'll take a look.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-09-18 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-18 19:18 [PATCH] recognize MAP_LOCKED in mmap() call Mark_H_Johnson
2002-09-18 19:18 ` Mark_H_Johnson
2002-09-18 19:39 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-18 19:39   ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-18 19:54 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-09-18 19:54   ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-25 15:42   ` Hubertus Franke
2002-09-25 15:42     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-09-25 16:35     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-25 16:35       ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-25 15:36 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-09-25 15:36   ` Hubertus Franke
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-25 16:57 Mark_H_Johnson
2002-09-25 16:57 ` Mark_H_Johnson
2002-09-13  3:33 [PATCH] per-zone kswapd process Dave Hansen
2002-09-13 13:05 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-13 21:30   ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-18 16:07     ` [PATCH] recognize MAP_LOCKED in mmap() call Hubertus Franke
2002-09-18 16:29       ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-18 16:29         ` Andrew Morton

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