From: John Gardiner Myers <jgmyers@netscape.com>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>
Cc: Dan Kegel <dank@kegel.com>, Shailabh Nagar <nagar@watson.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-aio <linux-aio@kvack.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
David Miller <davem@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:25:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DAC79D3.2010908@netscape.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20021015145731.J14596@redhat.com
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Benjamin LaHaise wrote:
>If you look at how /dev/epoll does it, the collapsing of readiness
>events is very elegant: a given fd is only allowed to report a change
>in its state once per run through the event loop.
>
And the way /dev/epoll does it has a key flaw: it only works with single
threaded callers. If you have multiple threads simultaneously trying to
get events, then race conditions abound.
>The ioctl that swaps
>event buffers acts as a barrier between the two possible reports.
>
Which assumes there are only single threaded callers. To work correctly
with multithreaded callers, there needs to be a more explicit mechanism
for a caller to indicate it has completed handling an event and wants to
rearm its interest.
There are also additional interactions with cancellation. How does the
cancellation interface report and handle the case where an associated
event is being delivered or handled by another thread? What happens
when that thread then tries to rearm the canceled interest?
I certainly hope /dev/epoll itself doesn't get accepted into the kernel,
the interface is error prone. Registering interest in a condition when
the condition is already true should immediately generate an event, the
epoll interface did not do that last time I saw it discussed. This
deficiency in the interface requires callers to include more complex
workaround code and is likely to result in subtle, hard to diagnose bugs.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-15 20:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-14 22:36 [PATCH] async poll for 2.5 Shailabh Nagar
2002-10-14 22:54 ` John Myers
2002-10-15 15:05 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 17:06 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-15 17:03 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 17:18 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-16 2:11 ` Lincoln Dale
2002-10-15 18:09 ` Shailabh Nagar
2002-10-15 18:53 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-15 18:57 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 20:25 ` John Gardiner Myers [this message]
2002-10-15 21:09 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-15 21:50 ` John Myers
2002-10-15 22:33 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 22:56 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-15 23:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-16 19:16 ` John Myers
2002-10-15 21:11 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 22:01 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-15 22:27 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 22:36 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-15 22:41 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 23:26 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-15 23:05 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 23:33 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-16 0:05 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-16 0:15 ` John Myers
2002-10-16 14:25 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-16 18:15 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-16 19:20 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-16 23:31 ` epoll (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-16 23:51 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-17 18:06 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-17 18:33 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-18 19:02 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-18 19:52 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-19 0:55 ` John Myers
2002-10-19 5:40 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-19 6:59 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-19 17:26 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-19 17:48 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-19 18:52 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-19 20:18 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-19 21:08 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-22 19:35 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-22 20:06 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-22 21:54 ` Erich Nahum
2002-10-22 22:17 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-22 22:25 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-18 21:01 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-18 21:33 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-19 1:05 ` John Myers
2002-10-19 1:27 ` Tervel Atanassov
2002-10-19 18:52 ` John G. Myers
2002-10-19 4:07 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-16 20:06 ` [PATCH] async poll for 2.5 Mark Mielke
2002-10-16 23:48 ` epoll (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-17 0:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-17 17:45 ` John Myers
2002-10-16 2:45 ` [PATCH] async poll for 2.5 Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-16 14:28 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-17 18:47 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-17 19:20 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-18 3:30 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-16 18:29 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-16 20:39 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-17 17:59 ` epoll (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-21 16:58 ` [PATCH] async poll for 2.5 Alan Cox
2002-10-21 16:50 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-16 19:59 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-16 20:03 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-17 17:43 ` epoll (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) John Myers
2002-10-18 17:00 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-18 17:28 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-18 17:41 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-18 18:55 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-18 19:16 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-19 6:56 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-19 16:10 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-22 17:22 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-22 17:46 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-22 17:47 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-22 18:13 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-22 18:18 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-22 18:37 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 19:49 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-22 19:22 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-22 19:28 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 19:50 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-22 20:00 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-23 11:10 ` Latest aio code " Suparna Bhattacharya
2002-10-22 20:23 ` async poll John Myers
2002-10-22 18:42 ` epoll (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-22 19:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 16:49 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-23 17:39 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-23 18:47 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 21:18 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-23 21:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 21:39 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-23 21:54 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 17:49 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-23 18:14 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 18:32 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-23 20:36 ` async poll John Myers
2002-10-23 20:57 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-23 21:13 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-23 21:23 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-23 21:51 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 21:51 ` bert hubert
2002-10-23 22:10 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 21:54 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-23 22:22 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 22:29 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-23 22:50 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-24 7:32 ` Eduardo Pérez
2002-10-24 15:05 ` Charles 'Buck' Krasic
2002-10-23 22:24 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-23 22:30 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-23 22:53 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-19 17:19 ` epoll (was Re: [PATCH] async poll for 2.5) Davide Libenzi
2002-10-18 18:55 ` Chris Friesen
2002-10-18 19:00 ` Mark Mielke
2002-10-15 17:38 ` [PATCH] async poll for 2.5 Shailabh Nagar
2002-10-15 17:50 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 18:16 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 18:18 ` Shailabh Nagar
2002-10-15 19:00 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 19:02 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 18:59 ` Shailabh Nagar
2002-10-15 19:16 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 19:12 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 19:31 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 19:38 ` Dan Kegel
2002-10-15 19:55 ` Davide Libenzi
2002-10-15 20:36 ` John Gardiner Myers
2002-10-15 20:39 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-15 19:02 ` Davide Libenzi
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