From: Luben Tuikov <luben@splentec.com>
To: linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 2.5] ips queue depths
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:26:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3DAC7A05.31B17A39@splentec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20021015194705.GD4391@redhat.com
Doug Ledford wrote:
>
> The scsi mid layer will never send you more than host->can_queue commands
> at one time, so why do all the scsi driver authors feel it is necessary to
> split their queue depth up amongst devices? Justin Gibbs is the only one
> that gets it right IMHO. Set the depth on each device as deep as that
> device can take (if that happens to be host->can_queue - 1 or such, then
> so be it). Then, let the mid layer and the request function worry about
> fairness across devices. That's its job after all. If everyone is going
> to moderate their queue depths like that, then we might as well yank
> can_queue out of the host struct entirely because *it serves no purpose*.
> [...]
I agree with Doug on the functionality splitting.
Regarding bashing SCSI core that it doesn't handle the device
q's (starvation) properly: nevertheless it is _its_ function to do
so and this should be observed. Soon enough it will get it right.
There should be a functionality split and LLDD should abide by it --
in the worst case, LLDD can play with the max tagged cmnds number.
Re. bashing the too large a number of tags allowed -- this actually
makes sense sometimes -- e.g. an iSCSI Initiator wants to have
as many tagged commands under its control rather than they
be waiting in SCSI core. If the mid layer has a problem with
a scsi tagged command, then it can notify the LLDD and it
will resolve this (*** please see my next Q. posting ***).
Statements like this: ``The queue depth should be as small as
possible without limiting the performance.'' cannot be generalized
to all devices, be it hardware or software emulations (YKWIM).
--
Luben
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-10-15 20:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 285+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-15 18:55 [patch 2.5] ips queue depths Jeffery, David
2002-10-15 19:30 ` Dave Hansen
2002-10-15 19:47 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 20:04 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-15 20:52 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 23:30 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-15 23:56 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-16 2:32 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-16 19:04 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-16 20:15 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-17 0:39 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-17 17:01 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-17 21:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-15 20:10 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-15 20:24 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 20:38 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-15 22:10 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-16 1:04 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-15 20:24 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-15 22:46 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 20:26 ` Luben Tuikov [this message]
2002-10-15 21:27 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-16 0:43 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-21 7:28 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-21 16:16 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-21 16:29 ` James Bottomley
[not found] <dledford@redhat.com>
2002-10-02 0:28 ` PATCH: scsi device queue depth adjustability patch Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 1:16 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 1:41 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 13:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 21:41 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-02 22:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 23:19 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-03 12:46 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-03 16:35 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-04 1:40 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-10-03 14:25 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-03 16:41 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-03 17:00 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-16 21:35 ` scsi_scan.c question Doug Ledford
2002-10-16 21:41 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-17 0:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-16 21:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-18 15:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-18 0:27 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 0:36 ` aic7xxx_biosparam J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-18 2:46 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 3:20 ` aic7xxx_biosparam J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-18 3:26 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 0:43 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Andries Brouwer
2002-11-18 2:47 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 0:57 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Alan Cox
2002-11-18 2:34 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-12-21 1:22 ` scsi_scan changes Doug Ledford
2002-12-21 1:27 ` James Bottomley
2008-10-31 1:02 ` RFC - device names and mdadm with some reference to udev greg
2008-10-31 9:18 ` Neil Brown
2008-11-02 13:52 ` Luca Berra
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-21 15:16 [PATCH] turn scsi_allocate_device into readable code Christoph Hellwig
2002-11-21 15:36 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 15:39 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-21 15:49 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 16:12 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-21 17:08 ` [PATCH] current scsi-misc-2.5 include files Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-16 19:40 [PATCH] removel useless mod use count manipulation Christoph Hellwig
2002-11-17 2:59 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-17 17:31 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-17 18:14 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-17 12:40 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-11-17 12:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-11-17 13:38 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-11-15 20:34 [RFC][PATCH] move dma_mask into struct device J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-16 0:19 ` Mike Anderson
2002-11-16 14:48 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-16 20:33 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-17 15:07 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 22:18 [PATCH] add request prep functions to SCSI J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 23:16 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-06 23:43 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-07 21:45 ` Mike Anderson
2002-11-06 4:24 [PATCH] fix 2.5 scsi queue depth setting Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 4:35 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 17:15 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 17:47 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 18:24 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 18:32 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 18:39 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 18:50 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 19:50 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 20:45 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-06 21:19 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 20:50 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] <patmans@us.ibm.com>
2002-10-15 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH] consolidate SCSI-2 command lun setting Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-15 20:29 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-15 22:00 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-30 16:58 ` [PATCH] 2.5 current bk fix setting scsi queue depths Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-30 17:17 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-30 18:05 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-31 0:44 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-21 19:34 [PATCH] get rid of ->finish method for highlevel drivers Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-21 23:58 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-22 15:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-22 18:43 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-22 23:17 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-22 23:30 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-23 14:16 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-23 15:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-24 1:36 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-24 23:20 ` Willem Riede
2002-10-24 23:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-25 0:02 ` Willem Riede
2002-10-22 7:30 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-22 11:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-16 12:01 [patch 2.5] ips queue depths Jeffery, David
2002-10-10 15:01 [PATCH] scsi host cleanup 3/3 (driver changes) Stephen Cameron
2002-10-10 16:46 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-10 16:59 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-10 20:05 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-30 21:06 [PATCH] first cut at fixing unable to requeue with no outstanding commands James Bottomley
2002-09-30 23:28 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-01 0:38 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-01 15:01 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-01 15:14 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-01 16:23 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-01 16:30 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-01 20:18 ` Inhibit auto-attach of scsi disks ? Scott Merritt
2002-10-02 0:46 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 1:49 ` Scott Merritt
2002-10-02 1:58 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 2:45 ` Scott Merritt
2002-10-02 13:40 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-24 11:35 SCSI woes (followup) Russell King
2002-09-24 13:46 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 13:58 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 14:29 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 18:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-24 18:18 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-24 19:01 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 19:08 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 19:21 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 19:32 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-24 20:00 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 22:23 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-24 23:04 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 22:39 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 23:14 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 23:26 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 23:31 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 23:56 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 23:33 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 0:47 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-25 8:45 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 2:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-25 14:41 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 23:33 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 23:45 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 0:08 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-25 8:41 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 17:22 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-25 12:46 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 17:57 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-24 18:39 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 18:49 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-09 14:57 [RFC] Multi-path IO in 2.5/2.6 ? James Bottomley
2002-09-09 16:56 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-09 17:34 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-09 18:40 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 13:02 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 16:03 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 16:03 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 16:27 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 0:08 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 7:55 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-10 13:04 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 16:20 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 16:20 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 13:16 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 19:26 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-11 14:20 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-11 19:17 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-11 19:17 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-11 19:37 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-11 19:52 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-11 19:52 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-12 1:15 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-09-11 21:38 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-09-11 20:30 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-11 21:17 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 17:21 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-10 17:21 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-10 18:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 19:00 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-10 19:00 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-10 19:37 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-11 0:21 ` Neil Brown
2002-09-03 14:35 aic7xxx sets CDR offline, how to reset? James Bottomley
2002-09-03 18:23 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 19:09 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 20:59 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 20:59 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 21:32 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 21:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 22:50 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:28 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 7:40 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:24 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 17:13 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-05 9:50 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:13 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 16:50 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-05 9:39 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-05 13:35 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-05 23:56 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-06 0:13 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-06 0:32 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-03 21:13 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 21:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 22:42 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 22:52 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:29 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 21:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-04 10:37 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-09-04 10:48 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-04 11:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 16:25 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-09-04 19:34 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-04 19:34 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-03 21:24 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-03 22:02 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 23:26 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-26 16:29 [RFC]: 64 bit LUN/Tags, dummy device in host_queue, host_lock <-> LLDD reentrancy Aron Zeh
2002-08-26 16:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 17:27 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-26 19:00 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 20:57 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-26 21:10 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 22:38 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-26 22:56 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-08-26 23:10 ` Doug Ledford
2002-08-28 14:38 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 21:15 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-12 23:38 [PATCH] 2.5.31 scsi_error.c cleanup Mike Anderson
2002-08-22 14:05 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-22 16:34 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-22 17:11 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-22 20:10 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-05 23:53 When must the io_request_lock be held? Jamie Wellnitz
2002-08-06 17:58 ` Mukul Kotwani
2002-08-07 14:48 ` Doug Ledford
2002-08-07 15:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-07 16:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-08-07 16:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-07 18:06 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-07 23:17 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-08 19:28 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-08-07 16:55 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-06-11 2:46 Proposed changes to generic blk tag for use in SCSI (1/3) James Bottomley
2002-06-11 5:50 ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 14:29 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-11 14:45 ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 16:39 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-13 21:01 ` Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 21:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-13 21:50 ` Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 22:09 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-13 21:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 15:18 [RFC] Persistent naming of scsi devices sullivan
2002-04-08 15:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-04-08 15:59 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 16:34 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 18:27 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-04-08 19:17 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-09 0:22 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-04-09 14:35 ` sullivan
2002-04-09 14:55 ` sullivan
2002-04-08 17:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-04-08 18:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-04-08 18:18 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 18:28 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 18:34 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 19:07 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 20:41 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 18:45 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-08 20:18 ` Eddie Williams
2002-04-09 0:48 ` Kurt Garloff
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