* Re: [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together [not found] ` <3DB59381.5000007@iriXx.org> @ 2002-10-22 19:06 ` Patrick Shirkey 2002-10-23 1:49 ` m 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Patrick Shirkey @ 2002-10-22 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-audio-user, alsa-devel iriXx wrote: > hi Patrick, > I have forwarded this to the devel list. To subscribe please visit this link. http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel > thanks so much... this will improve things wonderfully not just for the > Evolution but for my quattro as well... i had assumed that in rc3 the > midi interface for the quattro wasnt implemented.... i shall give cvs a > try straight away, as this is part of a review for a uk magazine... > > could you give me the address for subscribing to alsa-devel? i would be > happy to test and report back... > > the problems i've had with modules.conf are in adding support for the > two cards - which of course wont be necessary with the cvs version... > i shall ask again on alsa-devel if i have any more problems... > There are some changes that need to be made regarding the modules.conf file and the options for the driver. Specifically all snd_xxx references have been changed to just xxx. Ie remove the snd_ prefix. This has been done to ensure the alsa modules options are inline with the Kernel standard. NB this is completely seperate from the module name which is snd-xxx. That has not been changed. Interestingly enough we are in the process of debating how and what to do about getting more articles published on Linux Audio. If you want any second opinions on the article before it is published I am happy to have a look at it. Please let us know when you publish it too. Also could you send your modules.conf file in the next post so we can see what you are doing to load the modules. -- Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd. For the discerning hardware connoisseur Http://www.boosthardware.com Http://www.djcj.org - The Linux Audio Users guide ======================================== "Um...symbol_get and symbol_put... They're kindof like does anyone remember like get_symbol and put_symbol I think we used to have..." - Rusty Russell in his talk on the module subsystem ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;4699841;7576301;v?http://www.sun.com/javavote ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together 2002-10-22 19:06 ` [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together Patrick Shirkey @ 2002-10-23 1:49 ` m 2002-10-23 9:50 ` Clemens Ladisch 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: m @ 2002-10-23 1:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alsa-devel Patrick Shirkey wrote: > There are some changes that need to be made regarding the modules.conf > file and the options for the driver. Specifically all snd_xxx references > have been changed to just xxx. Ie remove the snd_ prefix. This has been > done to ensure the alsa modules options are inline with the Kernel > standard. NB this is completely seperate from the module name which is > snd-xxx. That has not been changed. > hi Patrick, thanks again, my modules.conf for rc3 was as follows: # ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-usb-audio ## oss/Free portion alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 # card 1 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-slot-1 audio so i assume i change only need to change the second line to alias snd-card-0 usb-audio or are there more changes necessary? should snd-card-0 stay the same? > Interestingly enough we are in the process of debating how and what to > do about getting more articles published on Linux Audio. If you want any > second opinions on the article before it is published I am happy to > have a look at it. > > Please let us know when you publish it too. certainly - although its not me that is writing the article - i'm testing the UC16 for a friend, who is writing for Camcorder User magazine in the UK... we are planning to review the Edirol usb devices as well, and probably the quattro... so hopefully i will be able to include more detailed GNU/Linux audio coverage soon.. i will suggest a few apps... anyone know of an app which would be particularly useful for live work with a UC-16?... i am actually a writer myself too, i'm currently working on a book which will be an expose of 'digital rights management' technology, strongly supporting GNU/Linux audio.... you can read more at http://www.copyleftmedia.org.uk . its not a technical book on audio, more a musician's answer to Naomi Klein's "No Logo"... to be published by GNU Press, provisional date Sept. 2003... watch this space... best, m~ -- iriXx www.iriXx.org copyleft: creativity, technology and freedom? info@copyleftmedia.org.uk www.copyleftmedia.org.uk _ ( ) ascii ribbon against html email X / \ cat /dev/sda1 > /dev/dsp *** stopping make sense *** ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;4699841;7576301;v?http://www.sun.com/javavote ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together 2002-10-23 1:49 ` m @ 2002-10-23 9:50 ` Clemens Ladisch 2002-10-23 10:28 ` m 2002-10-23 11:03 ` Martin Langer 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Clemens Ladisch @ 2002-10-23 9:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: m; +Cc: alsa-devel, Patrick Shirkey "m" wrote: > Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > > There are some changes that need to be made regarding the modules.conf > > file and the options for the driver. Specifically all snd_xxx references > > have been changed to just xxx. Ie remove the snd_ prefix. This has been > > done to ensure the alsa modules options are inline with the Kernel > > standard. NB this is completely seperate from the module name which is > > snd-xxx. That has not been changed. > > > > hi Patrick, thanks again, > > my modules.conf for rc3 was as follows: > > # ALSA portion > alias char-major-116 snd > alias snd-card-0 snd-usb-audio > > ## oss/Free portion > alias char-major-14 soundcore > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 > > # card 1 > alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss > alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss > alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss > alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > alias sound-slot-1 audio > > so i assume i change only need to change the second line to > > alias snd-card-0 usb-audio No, this is a module name, which didn't change. The change is for module options, but you're not using any, so the renaming doesn't affect you. (There is a subtle difference between snd_xxx and snd-xxx.) However, the alias for sound-slot-1 is wrong, "audio" is the name of the OSS driver. Make that line alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1 And you need to say which driver to use for snd-card-1. For the UC16 with 0.9.0rc3, it would be alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-midi For 0.9.0rc4, it would be alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio And when you have more than one card, you should tell the driver at which index they should load. If you have 0.9.0rc3, add these lines: options snd-usb-audio snd_index=0 options snd-usb-midi snd_index=1 If you have 0.9.0rc4, add this line instead: options snd-usb-audio index=0,1 pid=0x2001 HTH Clemens ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together 2002-10-23 9:50 ` Clemens Ladisch @ 2002-10-23 10:28 ` m 2002-10-23 13:00 ` Clemens Ladisch 2002-10-23 11:03 ` Martin Langer 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: m @ 2002-10-23 10:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alsa-devel hi, and thanks, > However, the alias for sound-slot-1 is wrong, "audio" is the name of > the OSS driver. Make that line > alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1 > And you need to say which driver to use for snd-card-1. For the UC16 with > 0.9.0rc3, it would be > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-midi > For 0.9.0rc4, it would be > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio thats great, thanks... i have 0.9.0rc4 the only thing i'm confused on is that i've now got 2 entries that say alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias snd-card-0 snd-usb-audio alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1 alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio im wondering if this is actually necessary when i've got only one USB port - if usb midi now uses the snd-usb-audio driver, then theoretically i only actually need to put in one card entry, the same driver should work for both?... > > And when you have more than one card, you should tell the driver at which > index they should load. > If you have 0.9.0rc3, add these lines: > options snd-usb-audio snd_index=0 > options snd-usb-midi snd_index=1 > If you have 0.9.0rc4, add this line instead: > options snd-usb-audio index=0,1 pid=0x2001 thats great, thanks so much m~ -- iriXx www.iriXx.org copyleft: creativity, technology and freedom? info@copyleftmedia.org.uk www.copyleftmedia.org.uk _ ( ) ascii ribbon against html email X / \ cat /dev/sda1 > /dev/dsp *** stopping make sense *** ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together 2002-10-23 10:28 ` m @ 2002-10-23 13:00 ` Clemens Ladisch 2002-10-23 20:17 ` m 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Clemens Ladisch @ 2002-10-23 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: m; +Cc: alsa-devel "m" wrote: > > alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1 > > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio > > the only thing i'm confused on is that i've now got 2 entries that say > > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 > alias snd-card-0 snd-usb-audio > > alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1 > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio > > im wondering if this is actually necessary when i've got only one USB > port - if usb midi now uses the snd-usb-audio driver, then theoretically > i only actually need to put in one card entry, the same driver should > work for both?... I assumed that you wanted to use a Quattro and a UC16 together. In this case, you need one entry for each card, although they're handled by the same driver. The snd-card-x entries are used for autoloading: when you try to access PCM device hw:x,y and this device doesn't yet exist, ALSA knowns that it should load the driver specified by snd-card-x. HTH Clemens ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together 2002-10-23 13:00 ` Clemens Ladisch @ 2002-10-23 20:17 ` m 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: m @ 2002-10-23 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alsa-devel On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 14:00, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > I assumed that you wanted to use a Quattro and a UC16 together. In this > case, you need one entry for each card, although they're handled by the > same driver. > > The snd-card-x entries are used for autoloading: when you try to access > PCM device hw:x,y and this device doesn't yet exist, ALSA knowns that it > should load the driver specified by snd-card-x. thanks, that helps a lot... as you can guess i'm new-ish to working with alsa although not so new to linux sound... bw m -- iriXx www.iriXx.org copyleft: creativity, technology and freedom? info@copyleftmedia.org.uk www.copyleftmedia.org.uk _ ( ) ascii ribbon against html email X / \ cat /dev/sda1 > /dev/dsp *** stopping make sense *** ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together 2002-10-23 9:50 ` Clemens Ladisch 2002-10-23 10:28 ` m @ 2002-10-23 11:03 ` Martin Langer 2002-10-23 11:02 ` Jaroslav Kysela 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Martin Langer @ 2002-10-23 11:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Clemens Ladisch, alsa-devel On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 11:50:37AM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > And you need to say which driver to use for snd-card-1. For the UC16 with > 0.9.0rc3, it would be > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-midi > For 0.9.0rc4, it would be > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio > It would be better to add this module name change to the rc4 announce lines on www.alsa-project.org ! martin ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together 2002-10-23 11:03 ` Martin Langer @ 2002-10-23 11:02 ` Jaroslav Kysela 2002-10-23 11:27 ` Takashi Iwai 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Jaroslav Kysela @ 2002-10-23 11:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Martin Langer; +Cc: Clemens Ladisch, alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Martin Langer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 11:50:37AM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > > And you need to say which driver to use for snd-card-1. For the UC16 with > > 0.9.0rc3, it would be > > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-midi > > For 0.9.0rc4, it would be > > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio > > > > > It would be better to add this module name change to the rc4 announce lines on > www.alsa-project.org ! It's not possible to comment changes for all drivers in the news section... Jaroslav ----- Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz> Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer ALSA Project http://www.alsa-project.org SuSE Linux http://www.suse.com ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together 2002-10-23 11:02 ` Jaroslav Kysela @ 2002-10-23 11:27 ` Takashi Iwai 2002-10-23 11:44 ` Martin Langer 2002-10-23 12:25 ` Patrick Shirkey 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Takashi Iwai @ 2002-10-23 11:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jaroslav Kysela Cc: Martin Langer, Clemens Ladisch, alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net At Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:02:28 +0200 (CEST), Jaroslav wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Martin Langer wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 11:50:37AM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > > > And you need to say which driver to use for snd-card-1. For the UC16 with > > > 0.9.0rc3, it would be > > > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-midi > > > For 0.9.0rc4, it would be > > > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio > > > > > > > > > It would be better to add this module name change to the rc4 announce lines on > > www.alsa-project.org ! > > It's not possible to comment changes for all drivers in the news > section... but the change of driver names is actually very important for users, and there are only few: snd-via686, snd-via8233 ==> snd-via82xx snd-usb-midi ==> snd-usb-audio Takashi ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together 2002-10-23 11:27 ` Takashi Iwai @ 2002-10-23 11:44 ` Martin Langer 2002-10-23 12:25 ` Patrick Shirkey 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Martin Langer @ 2002-10-23 11:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Takashi Iwai, perex, clemens, alsa-devel On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:27:23PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:02:28 +0200 (CEST), > Jaroslav wrote: > > > > On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Martin Langer wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 11:50:37AM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > > > > And you need to say which driver to use for snd-card-1. For the UC16 with > > > > 0.9.0rc3, it would be > > > > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-midi > > > > For 0.9.0rc4, it would be > > > > alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be better to add this module name change to the rc4 announce lines on > > > www.alsa-project.org ! > > > > It's not possible to comment changes for all drivers in the news > > section... > > but the change of driver names is actually very important for users, > and there are only few: > > snd-via686, snd-via8233 ==> snd-via82xx > snd-usb-midi ==> snd-usb-audio What about a linked changelog or announce file? martin > > > Takashi > > -- "2b|!2b" ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: [linux-audio-user] Evolution UC16 problems, modules.conf for usb-midi and usb-audio together 2002-10-23 11:27 ` Takashi Iwai 2002-10-23 11:44 ` Martin Langer @ 2002-10-23 12:25 ` Patrick Shirkey 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Patrick Shirkey @ 2002-10-23 12:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Takashi Iwai Cc: Jaroslav Kysela, Martin Langer, Clemens Ladisch, alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:02:28 +0200 (CEST), > Jaroslav wrote: > >>On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Martin Langer wrote: >> >> >>>On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 11:50:37AM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote: >>> >>>>And you need to say which driver to use for snd-card-1. For the UC16 with >>>>0.9.0rc3, it would be >>>> alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-midi >>>>For 0.9.0rc4, it would be >>>> alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio >>>> >>> >>> >>>It would be better to add this module name change to the rc4 announce lines on >>>www.alsa-project.org ! >> >>It's not possible to comment changes for all drivers in the news >>section... > > > but the change of driver names is actually very important for users, > and there are only few: > > snd-via686, snd-via8233 ==> snd-via82xx > snd-usb-midi ==> snd-usb-audio > Well I have already updated the online docs. With specifics references in the notes for these drivers. It wouldn't hurt to add a note to the main page too though. It is profeesional courtesy. -- Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd. For the discerning hardware connoisseur Http://www.boosthardware.com Http://www.djcj.org - The Linux Audio Users guide ======================================== "Um...symbol_get and symbol_put... They're kindof like does anyone remember like get_symbol and put_symbol I think we used to have..." - Rusty Russell in his talk on the module subsystem ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net emial is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(SM) (JCP(SM)) program now. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?sunm0002en ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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