[parisc-linux] floppy images

[parisc-linux] floppy images

[Mehta, Miten]

Hello,

why are floppy images not supported like for i386?

Thanks.

Re: [parisc-linux] floppy images

[Randolph Chung]

> why are floppy images not supported like for i386?

I guess mostly because no one has asked for them, or been motivated
enough to create them. Unlike i386, diskless installs for hppa work 
very well....

also, i think floppy drivers are not yet supported for many of the 
parisc floppy controllers.

randolph
-- 
Randolph Chung
Debian GNU/Linux Developer, hppa/ia64 ports
http://www.tausq.org/

Re: [parisc-linux] floppy images

[Thibaut VARENE]

http://www.parisc-linux.org/mailing-lists/
http://pateam.esiee.fr/parisc-linux-boot/doc.html

RT...

Thibaut VARENE
The PA/Linux ESIEE Team
http://pateam.esiee.fr/

On mardi, jan 21, 2003, at 16:54 Europe/Paris, Mehta, Miten wrote:

> Hello,
>
> why are floppy images not supported like for i386?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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Re: [parisc-linux] floppy images

[Grant Grundler]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 08:35:05AM -0800, Randolph Chung wrote:
> > why are floppy images not supported like for i386?
> 
> I guess mostly because no one has asked for them, or been motivated
> enough to create them. Unlike i386, diskless installs for hppa work 
> very well....

and palo (boot loader) doesn't grok compressed vmlinuz images.
Patches are welcome...

> also, i think floppy drivers are not yet supported for many of the 
> parisc floppy controllers.

and HP couldn't published anything for floppy controller because of 
litigation at the time the parisc-linux work was being funded. :^(

FWIW, floppy controller support has been on the TODO list since day one.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] floppy images

[Joel Soete]

>On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 08:35:05AM -0800, Randolph Chung wrote:
>> > why are floppy images not supported like for i386?
>> 
>> I guess mostly because no one has asked for them, or been motivated
>> enough to create them. Unlike i386, diskless installs for hppa work 
>> very well....
>
>and palo (boot loader) doesn't grok compressed vmlinuz images.
>Patches are welcome...

hmm, isn't there a problem with the actual size of palo (< ??) (I could also
badly understand)


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Re: [parisc-linux] floppy images

[Jochen Friedrich]

Hi Grant,

> and HP couldn't published anything for floppy controller because of
> litigation at the time the parisc-linux work was being funded. :^(

Don't 715 / 720 just have SCSI floppies?

--jochen

RE: [parisc-linux] floppy images

["Beerse, Corné"]

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jochen Friedrich [mailto:jochen@scram.de]
> 
> Hi Grant,
> 
> > and HP couldn't published anything for floppy controller because of
> > litigation at the time the parisc-linux work was being funded. :^(
> 
> Don't 715 / 720 just have SCSI floppies?

If they have, they should be available for all other machines: the driver is
in the os, the scsi is most (all) systems.

I do know, the 712 has a wintel/pc-based floppy interface. Just hook any
standard (hence, no ibm ;-) 3.5, hd floppy device to the cable and off you
go. 


CBee 

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Re: [parisc-linux] floppy images

[Harri Haataja]

On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 02:56:54PM +0100, Jochen Friedrich wrote:
> > and HP couldn't published anything for floppy controller because of
> > litigation at the time the parisc-linux work was being funded. :^(
> Don't 715 / 720 just have SCSI floppies?

That is certainly possible. I've heard that the odd connector towards
the back is a pretty regular floppy connector. Don't know where the
power comes from, though. Nor what configuration HP shipped.

-- 
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Re: [parisc-linux] floppy images

[Michael S.Zick]

On Thursday 23 January 2003 08:05 am, Harri Haataja wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 02:56:54PM +0100, Jochen Friedrich wrote:
> > > and HP couldn't published anything for floppy controller because of
> > > litigation at the time the parisc-linux work was being funded. :^(
> >
> > Don't 715 / 720 just have SCSI floppies?
>
My 9000/720-50MHz box has factory SCSI floppy

>
> That is certainly possible. I've heard that the odd connector towards
> the back is a pretty regular floppy connector. Don't know where the
> power comes from, though. Nor what configuration HP shipped.

Must be through the I/O cable - no other cable on the device.

Mike

Re: [parisc-linux] floppy images

[Grant Grundler]

On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 02:56:54PM +0100, Jochen Friedrich wrote:
> Hi Grant,
> 
> > and HP couldn't published anything for floppy controller because of
> > litigation at the time the parisc-linux work was being funded. :^(
> 
> Don't 715 / 720 just have SCSI floppies?

Only 715/old (33/50/75Mhz), not 715/new.
Any system with LASI or SuckyIO shipped with a PC floppy.
All the workstations with PCI, use PC floppy.

I don't know about 720 - glad someone else said it did.

grant

Re: [parisc-linux] floppy images

[Jochen Friedrich]

Hi Grant,

> I don't know about 720 - glad someone else said it did.

model 9000/720
Total Memory: 32 Mb
[...]
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
53c700: consistent memory allocation failed
53c700: Version 2.8 By James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com
scsi0: 53c700 rev 0
scsi0 : LASI SCSI 53c700
  Vendor: TEAC      Model: FC-1     HF   07  Rev: RV A
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 01 CCS
  Vendor: IBM       Model: DCAS-34330        Rev: S61A
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0
Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0

sda is the floppy, sdb the hard drive.

Thanks,
--jochen