* questions about usbmidi
@ 2003-04-09 13:01 Thomas Rabe
2003-04-09 14:34 ` Clemens Ladisch
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Rabe @ 2003-04-09 13:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: alsa-devel; +Cc: us428
hello,
I try to hack a little bit on Karstens tascam-us428 alsa patch and have
some problems to integrate usbmidi (usbaudio works). in the patch
(written for alsa rc3?) this was done with:
8<-----------------------------------------------------------
static int snd_us428_create_usbmidi( snd_card_t* card )
{
#if defined(CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER) || defined(CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_MODULE)
static snd_usb_audio_quirk_t quirk = {
.vendor_name = "TASCAM",
.product_name = "US-428",
.ifnum = 0,
.endpoints = {{
.epnum = 6,
.out_cables = 3,
.in_cables = 3
}}
};
snd_seq_device_t *seq_device;
snd_usb_midi_t *umidi;
int err;
err = snd_seq_device_new( card, us428( card)->chip.next_seq_device,
SNDRV_SEQ_DEV_ID_USBMIDI,
sizeof(snd_usb_midi_t), &seq_device);
if (err < 0)
return err;
us428( card)->chip.next_seq_device++;
strcpy(seq_device->name, card->shortname);
umidi = (snd_usb_midi_t *)SNDRV_SEQ_DEVICE_ARGPTR(seq_device);
umidi->chip = &us428( card)->chip;
umidi->ifnum = 0;
umidi->quirk = &quirk;
umidi->seq_client = -1;
#endif
return 0;
}
8<------------------------------------------------------------------
i changed this to:
8<----------------------------------------------------------------
static int snd_us428_create_usbmidi( snd_card_t* card )
{
#if defined(CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER) || defined(CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_MODULE)
static snd_usb_audio_quirk_t quirk = {
.vendor_name = "TASCAM",
.product_name = "US-428",
.ifnum = 0,
.type = QUIRK_MIDI_FIXED_ENDPOINT,
.data = & (const snd_usb_midi_endpoint_info_t) {
.out_ep =0x06,
.in_ep = 0x86,
.out_cables = 0x003,
.in_cables = 0x003
}
};
int err;
err = snd_usb_create_midi_interface(&us428( card)->chip, us428(
card)->chip.dev->actconfig->interface , &quirk);
if (err < 0)
return err;
#endif
return 0;
}
8<--------------------------------------------------------------------
but if i insert the module with modprobe i get segfault + kernel oops.
what should be wrong?
is it a good idea to link against usbmidi.o? (the us428 is non standard
audio/midi device).
btw: karstens original code is available at
http://hal9000.drehmoment.org/tascam
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* Re: questions about usbmidi
2003-04-09 13:01 questions about usbmidi Thomas Rabe
@ 2003-04-09 14:34 ` Clemens Ladisch
2003-04-09 16:08 ` Thomas Rabe
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Clemens Ladisch @ 2003-04-09 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Rabe; +Cc: alsa-devel, us428
Thomas Rabe wrote:
> I try to hack a little bit on Karstens tascam-us428 alsa patch and have
> some problems to integrate usbmidi (usbaudio works). in the patch
> (written for alsa rc3?) this was done with:
> [...]
> i changed this to:
> ...
> #if defined(CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER) || defined(CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_MODULE)
You don't need this #if; the new code doesn't use the sequencer.
> .in_ep = 0x86,
This endpoint number must not include the USB_DIR_IN flag. Make this:
.in_ep = 0x06,
If this is the only endpoint in the interface, you can omit the endpoint
number and let the driver autodetect it.
> is it a good idea to link against usbmidi.o? (the us428 is non standard
> audio/midi device).
Yes, the MIDI interface part of the US428 is mostly standard compliant.
HTH
Clemens
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* Re: questions about usbmidi
2003-04-09 14:34 ` Clemens Ladisch
@ 2003-04-09 16:08 ` Thomas Rabe
2003-04-10 6:45 ` Clemens Ladisch
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Rabe @ 2003-04-09 16:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: alsa-devel
Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> Thomas Rabe wrote:
>
>>I try to hack a little bit on Karstens tascam-us428 alsa patch and have
>>some problems to integrate usbmidi (usbaudio works). in the patch
>>(written for alsa rc3?) this was done with:
>>[...]
>
>> .in_ep = 0x86,
>
>
> This endpoint number must not include the USB_DIR_IN flag. Make this:
> .in_ep = 0x06,
>
> If this is the only endpoint in the interface, you can omit the endpoint
> number and let the driver autodetect it.
i don't really know if autodetection will work (for the lsusb see
below). the real problem are the kernel-oopses, the last message i get:
ports are created.
8<------------------------------------------------------
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: ALSA
../alsa-kernel/usb/usbmidi.c:782: created 2 output and 2 input ports
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer
dereference at virtual address 00000004
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: printing eip:
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: d0861541
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: *pde = 00000000
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: Oops: 0002
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: CPU: 0
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: EIP:
0010:[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-555711/96]
Not tainted
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: EFLAGS: 00010246
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: eax: cfc635c8 ebx: 00000001 ecx:
00000000 edx: c2b13de4
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: esi: cfc635b8 edi: c2b13e04 ebp:
00000002 esp: c2951e48
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: Process modprobe (pid: 3506,
stackpage=c2951000)
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: Stack: c8e6bbc0 c2b13c14 cff60400
c2b13c14 c2951e6c c2951e6a c2951e68 00000002
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: 00030606 00000003 00000000
d0861caa c2b13de4 c8e6bbc0 d086a6b8 d0861cc4
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: c2b13c14 c8e6bbc0 00000000
d0862019 c2b13c14 d086a650 d086a680 c8e6bbc0
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: Call Trace:
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-553814/96]
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-518472/96]
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-553788/96]
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-552935/96]
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-518576/96]
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel:
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-518528/96]
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-518500/96]
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-541312/96]
[usb_find_interface_driver+305/472]
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-518576/96]
[usb_check_support+92/120]
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: [usb_check_support+53/120]
[usb_scan_devices+50/80]
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-518528/96]
[usb_register+150/156]
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-552462/96]
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-518528/96]
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: [sys_init_module+1285/1448]
[ide-cd:__insmod_ide-cd_O/lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/ide/ide+-561056/96]
[system_call+51/56]
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel:
Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: Code: 89 41 04 89 4e 10 89 78 04 89
42 20 83 c6 1c 31 ff 83 3c 3e
8<---------------------------------------------------------------------------
usb desc:
8<---------------------------------------------------------------------------
usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod 0x1604/0x8001) is not claimed by any
active driver.
Length = 18
DescriptorType = 01
USB version = 1.00
Vendor:Product = 1604:8001
MaxPacketSize0 = 64
NumConfigurations = 1
Device version = 0.01
Device Class:SubClass:Protocol = 00:00:00
Per-interface classes
Configuration:
bLength = 9
bDescriptorType = 02
wTotalLength = 00b7
bNumInterfaces = 01
bConfigurationValue = 01
iConfiguration = 00
bmAttributes = 40
MaxPower = 0mA
Interface: 0
Alternate Setting: 0
bLength = 9
bDescriptorType = 04
bInterfaceNumber = 00
bAlternateSetting = 00
bNumEndpoints = 05
bInterface Class:SubClass:Protocol = ff:00:00
iInterface = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 04 (out)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 84 (in)
bmAttributes = 03 (Interrupt)
wMaxPacketSize = 0015
bInterval = 0a
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 06 (out)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 86 (in)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 02 (out)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Alternate Setting: 1
bLength = 9
bDescriptorType = 04
bInterfaceNumber = 00
bAlternateSetting = 01
bNumEndpoints = 08
bInterface Class:SubClass:Protocol = ff:00:00
iInterface = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 04 (out)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 84 (in)
bmAttributes = 03 (Interrupt)
wMaxPacketSize = 0015
bInterval = 0a
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 06 (out)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 86 (in)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 02 (out)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 88 (in)
bmAttributes = 01 (Isochronous)
wMaxPacketSize = 00c8
bInterval = 01
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 8a (in)
bmAttributes = 01 (Isochronous)
wMaxPacketSize = 00c8
bInterval = 01
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 0a (out)
bmAttributes = 01 (Isochronous)
wMaxPacketSize = 00c8
bInterval = 01
Alternate Setting: 2
bLength = 9
bDescriptorType = 04
bInterfaceNumber = 00
bAlternateSetting = 02
bNumEndpoints = 08
bInterface Class:SubClass:Protocol = ff:00:00
iInterface = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 04 (out)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 84 (in)
bmAttributes = 03 (Interrupt)
wMaxPacketSize = 0015
bInterval = 0a
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 06 (out)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 86 (in)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 02 (out)
bmAttributes = 02 (Bulk)
wMaxPacketSize = 0040
bInterval = 00
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 88 (in)
bmAttributes = 01 (Isochronous)
wMaxPacketSize = 012c
bInterval = 01
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 8a (in)
bmAttributes = 01 (Isochronous)
wMaxPacketSize = 012c
bInterval = 01
Endpoint:
bLength = 7
bDescriptorType = 05
bEndpointAddress = 0a (out)
bmAttributes = 01 (Isochronous)
wMaxPacketSize = 012c
bInterval = 01
8<-----------------------------------------------------------
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* Re: questions about usbmidi
2003-04-09 16:08 ` Thomas Rabe
@ 2003-04-10 6:45 ` Clemens Ladisch
2003-04-10 7:29 ` Thomas Rabe
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Clemens Ladisch @ 2003-04-10 6:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Rabe; +Cc: alsa-devel
Thomas Rabe wrote:
> Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > If this is the only endpoint in the interface, you can omit the endpoint
> > number and let the driver autodetect it.
>
> i don't really know if autodetection will work (for the lsusb see
> below).
All endpoints are in one interface, so it wouldn't work.
> the real problem are the kernel-oopses, the last message i get:
> ports are created.
>
> 8<------------------------------------------------------
> Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: ALSA ../alsa-kernel/usb/usbmidi.c:782: created 2 output and 2 input ports
> Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004
Well, this may indicate that the MIDI part works and that the error is in
some other part of the driver. Does the oops still happen when you don't
call snd_usb_create_midi_interface?
HTH
Clemens
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* Re: questions about usbmidi
2003-04-10 6:45 ` Clemens Ladisch
@ 2003-04-10 7:29 ` Thomas Rabe
2003-04-10 10:47 ` Clemens Ladisch
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Rabe @ 2003-04-10 7:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Clemens Ladisch, alsa-devel
Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> Thomas Rabe wrote:
>
>>Clemens Ladisch wrote:
>>
>>>If this is the only endpoint in the interface, you can omit the endpoint
>>>number and let the driver autodetect it.
>>
>>i don't really know if autodetection will work (for the lsusb see
>>below).
>
>
> All endpoints are in one interface, so it wouldn't work.
will i have more luck with snd_usbmidi_create_rawmidi? if yes, should i
declare the relevant functions/structs needed for rawmidi in usbaudio.h
or cut'n paste the stuff from usbmidi.c in my driver file?
>>the real problem are the kernel-oopses, the last message i get:
>>ports are created.
>>
>>8<------------------------------------------------------
>>Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: ALSA ../alsa-kernel/usb/usbmidi.c:782: created 2 output and 2 input ports
>>Apr 9 17:57:05 konstruktor kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004
>
>
> Well, this may indicate that the MIDI part works and that the error is in
> some other part of the driver. Does the oops still happen when you don't
> call snd_usb_create_midi_interface?
the driver works fine without calling snd_usb_create_midi_interface (no
errors, all audiochannels are available). i just wondering why there is
no error return but the oops. it's very hard to try out hacks, because i
have to reboot after the oops (can't rmmod the driver and other alsa
modules).
> HTH
> Clemens
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* Re: questions about usbmidi
2003-04-10 7:29 ` Thomas Rabe
@ 2003-04-10 10:47 ` Clemens Ladisch
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Clemens Ladisch @ 2003-04-10 10:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Rabe; +Cc: alsa-devel
Thomas Rabe wrote:
> Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > Thomas Rabe wrote:
> >>i don't really know if autodetection will work (for the lsusb see
> >>below).
> >
> > All endpoints are in one interface, so it wouldn't work.
>
> will i have more luck with snd_usbmidi_create_rawmidi?
It's only the autodetection that wouldn't work. Using
snd_usb_create_midi_interface with endpoint 0x06 should work just fine.
> > Well, this may indicate that the MIDI part works and that the error is in
> > some other part of the driver. Does the oops still happen when you don't
> > call snd_usb_create_midi_interface?
>
> the driver works fine without calling snd_usb_create_midi_interface (no
> errors, all audiochannels are available).
The initialization code does nothing USB-related except allocing some URBs
and submitting the input URBs. Please try to remove the call to
snd_usbmidi_submit_urb at the end of _create_midi_interface.
HTH
Clemens
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* Re: questions about usbmidi
@ 2003-04-10 14:38 Thomas Rabe
2003-04-10 15:38 ` Clemens Ladisch
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Rabe @ 2003-04-10 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: alsa-devel
Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> Thomas Rabe wrote:
>
>>Clemens Ladisch wrote:
>>>Well, this may indicate that the MIDI part works and that the error
is in
>>>some other part of the driver. Does the oops still happen when you don't
>>>call snd_usb_create_midi_interface?
>>
>>the driver works fine without calling snd_usb_create_midi_interface (no
>>errors, all audiochannels are available).
>
>
> The initialization code does nothing USB-related except allocing some URBs
> and submitting the input URBs. Please try to remove the call to
> snd_usbmidi_submit_urb at the end of _create_midi_interface.
removing the snd_usbmidi_submit_urb call also oopses. i tried some
endpoint configs like below but each crashing my machine:
.data = & (const snd_usb_midi_endpoint_info_t) {
.out_ep =0x06,
.in_ep = 0x06,
.out_cables = 0x003,
.in_cables = 0x003
}
last msg:
created 2 output and 2 input ports
.data = & (const snd_usb_midi_endpoint_info_t) {
.out_ep =0x06,
.out_cables = 0x003,
}
last msg:
created 2 output and 0 input ports
.data = & (const snd_usb_midi_endpoint_info_t) {
}
last msg:
created 0 output and 0 input ports
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* Re: questions about usbmidi
2003-04-10 14:38 Thomas Rabe
@ 2003-04-10 15:38 ` Clemens Ladisch
2003-04-10 18:18 ` Thomas Rabe
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Clemens Ladisch @ 2003-04-10 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Rabe; +Cc: alsa-devel
Thomas Rabe wrote:
> Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > The initialization code does nothing USB-related except allocing some URBs
> > and submitting the input URBs. Please try to remove the call to
> > snd_usbmidi_submit_urb at the end of _create_midi_interface.
>
> removing the snd_usbmidi_submit_urb call also oopses. i tried some
> endpoint configs like below but each crashing my machine:
> ...
> .data = & (const snd_usb_midi_endpoint_info_t) {
> }
>
> last msg:
> created 0 output and 0 input ports
So the oops isn't related to USB at all.
The first thing after outputting "created ... ports" is the line:
list_add(&umidi->list, &umidi->chip->midi_list);
It may be possible that your US428 driver doesn't initialize
chip->midi_list. This may indicate that you didn't merge all the changes
made to usbaudio.c.
HTH
Clemens
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* Re: questions about usbmidi
2003-04-10 15:38 ` Clemens Ladisch
@ 2003-04-10 18:18 ` Thomas Rabe
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Rabe @ 2003-04-10 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Clemens Ladisch; +Cc: alsa-devel
Clemens Ladisch wrote:
>>Clemens Ladisch wrote:
>
> So the oops isn't related to USB at all.
>
> The first thing after outputting "created ... ports" is the line:
>
> list_add(&umidi->list, &umidi->chip->midi_list);
>
> It may be possible that your US428 driver doesn't initialize
> chip->midi_list. This may indicate that you didn't merge all the changes
> made to usbaudio.c.
uh, sorry. i forgot the INIT_LIST_HEAD(&us428(card)->chip.midi_list)
call. now midi works and everything is fine:) thanks!
> HTH
> Clemens
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