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From: Joachim Reichelt <Reichelt@gbf.de>
To: Anders Widman <andewid@tnonline.net>
Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Archiver
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 13:22:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EAD0F10.8050505@gbf.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <561202089.20030428131424@tnonline.net>



Anders Widman schrieb am 04/28/2003 01:14 PM:

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>>Anders Widman schrieb am 04/28/2003 12:50 PM:
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>>>>Hans Reiser schrieb am 04/28/2003 12:20 PM:
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>>>>>Joachim Reichelt wrote:
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>>>>>>Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know, it is a little bit out of topic, but we are looking for 
>>>>>>Software to archive our data held on
>>>>>>~400GB reiser fs.
>>>>>>We want to have exact one copy on tape of each file that is on our 
>>>>>>system at e.g. midnight.
>>>>>>Only new or changed files should go to tape.
>>>>>>Tapes are in an robot system of ~2TB.
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>>>>>lvm snapshots and dd or tar?
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>>>>The data are on hardware raid, no lvm.
>>>>Tar: How to exclude all file the are on tape jet?
>>>>Where/How to find old files?
>>>>I think of features as seen in legatho, something like a HSM system
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>>>  How  can  you without snapshots of the filesystem be able to backup
>>>  from one point in time? I mean if the filesystem changes during the
>>>  backup  you may loose (miss to backup) data that is changing/moving
>>>  or get partial files.
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>>The data to backup are produced during experiments. There is no need to 
>>get all files at a given time.
>>We only want to have all files on tape some days after creation.
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>>>  Otherwise  it  should  not be such a big problem to use tar to copy
>>>  files  that  are  changed after a certain date (last backup). Check
>>>  the tar manpage :)
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>>I did this. But how to get file back? How to find them
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>  How  do you mean get the file back? The idea with backup is that you
>  have  them  in  case  you  loose files, corrupt or overwrite them by
>  accident?
>
The problem is: If i have the data written some time ago, find the tape 
the file is on.
We have a changer for 48 tapes and it takes some time to check all of them!
You know that usernever know exact data of there files.
So I have to setup mysql for it or somethink like that.

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>>What about files copied over remote from WIN of created by progs that
>>reset a and m times?
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>  This  is  a  problem with Samba/Windows. You could make Samba to not
>  change  the  access/create  times,  or  control how it should update
>  them. It is a little tricky though, and might not help.
>
The files are mostly from WIN and we need the original timestamps, that 
is the problem.

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>  //Anders
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-28 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-28 10:14 Archiver Joachim Reichelt
2003-04-28 10:20 ` Archiver Hans Reiser
2003-04-28 10:44   ` Archiver Joachim Reichelt
2003-04-28 10:50     ` Archiver Anders Widman
2003-04-28 11:03       ` Archiver Joachim Reichelt
2003-04-28 11:14         ` Archiver Anders Widman
2003-04-28 11:22           ` Joachim Reichelt [this message]
2003-04-28 14:00         ` Archiver Valdis.Kletnieks

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