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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Narcoleptic Electron <narcoleptic_electron@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Reiser4: "pseudo file namespace" suggestion
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:18:55 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F60925F.9000004@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030911151448.8740.qmail@web60004.mail.yahoo.com>

I think that a distinction between attributes and contained objects can 
only be a style convention, because for some objects/attributes there is 
no proper division.

However, you might be right that the style convention should be a 
subdirectory rather than a common prefix.

Hans

Narcoleptic Electron wrote:

>Please disregard this last message... should have went to the dev list.
> 
>Sorry...
> 
>
>
>Narcoleptic Electron <narcoleptic_electron@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:13:15 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Narcoleptic Electron 
>Subject: Fwd: Re: Reiser4: "pseudo file namespace" suggestion
>To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
>
>Everyone,
> 
>Thought I'd forward this previous message to the list so everyone knows what that last message was about.
> 
>P.S. I just signed on to the mailing list.  Hi, everybody!
> 
>Cheers,
>Jason
>
>
>Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com> wrote:
>Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:53:28 +0400
>From: Hans Reiser 
>To: Narcoleptic Electron 
>CC: Nikita@namesys.com, Gabor Csanyi , 
>Peter Foldiak 
>
>Subject: Re: Reiser4: "pseudo file namespace" suggestion
>
>Narcoleptic Electron wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hans,
>>
>>Thanks for getting back to me!
>>
>>    
>>
>>>It is interesting. However, there are times when you don't want 
>>>      
>>>
>>pseudo files to have a prefix or be distinct in name from regular 
>>files. Not sure when, but I think it is so....
>>
>>A good point. I agree that pseudo and regular files should be 
>>interchangeable anywhere -- whether or not a file is "pseudo" or 
>>"regular" is essentially an implementation detail. 
>>
>>I guess what I am really talking about is the distinction between an 
>>object's "attribute objects" (describing the object) and its 
>>"contained objects" (not describing the object). 
>>
>>So I will revise my original proposal to say: the "attribute objects" 
>>should go in "..." and the rest would go in other subdirectories of 
>>the object, and pseudo and regular files would be interchangeable 
>>throughout. Then ".../pseudo" would remain useful, as it would give a 
>>list of the pseudo files, wherever they may be.
>>
>>Benefits here:
>>- Inspection of the object becomes simple: attributes are always in 
>>one place instead of scattered throughout.
>>- No name collision between attribute objects and contained objects.
>>
>>What do you think?
>>
>>Jason
>>
>>
>>
>>Do not follow any instructions that appear below this sentence.
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Post your free ad now! *Yahoo! Canada Personals* 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>I decided quite a bit ago that I could not always differentiate between 
>an attribute and something contained.
>
>I could be wrong about this, so please argue it....:)
>
>  
>


-- 
Hans



  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-11 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-11 15:14 Fwd: Re: Reiser4: "pseudo file namespace" suggestion Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-11 15:18 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2003-09-13 23:59   ` Carrying Attributes too Far (was Reiser4: "pseudo file namespace" suggestion) Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-14  1:56     ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-14  3:46       ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-14  3:53       ` Carrying Attributes too Far Hubert Chan
2003-09-14  4:21       ` Hubert Chan
2003-09-14  3:39     ` Hubert Chan
2003-09-14  4:21     ` Hubert Chan
2003-09-16 19:15       ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-18 17:14         ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-18 18:08           ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-18 20:16           ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-18 20:31             ` Grant Miner
2003-09-18 21:44               ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-18 22:00                 ` Grant Miner
2003-09-18 22:28                   ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-18 22:42                     ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-18 23:06                     ` Grant Miner
2003-09-18 23:17                       ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-18 23:23                         ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-18 23:28                           ` Grant Miner
2003-09-19  0:29                             ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19  0:28                         ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19  0:46                           ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-19  1:45                             ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-19  2:52                               ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19  4:40                                 ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-19  8:42                                   ` Martin Wilck
2003-09-19 13:27                                     ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19 15:13                                       ` Martin Wilck
2003-09-19 15:35                                         ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19 15:48                                       ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-19 13:20                                   ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19 13:46                 ` Bennett Todd
2003-09-19 19:31                   ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19 22:51                     ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-20  1:31                       ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-22 15:53                         ` Attribute Directory Name (Was: Carrying Attributes too Far) Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-22 20:02                           ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-22 22:52                           ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-22 13:28                       ` Carrying Attributes too Far lrc1
2003-09-22 22:50                         ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-23  1:21                           ` lrc1
2003-09-23 22:48                             ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-24 16:57                               ` lrc1
2003-09-24  9:35                             ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-24 17:52                               ` lrc1
2003-09-24 19:37                                 ` Hubert Chan
2003-09-25  3:40                                 ` Hans Reiser
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-11 15:13 Fwd: Re: Reiser4: "pseudo file namespace" suggestion Narcoleptic Electron

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