From: Hubert Chan <hubert@uhoreg.ca>
To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Carrying Attributes too Far
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:39:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k78ct4w9.fsf@labatt.uhoreg.ca> (raw)
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>>>>> "Alexander" =3D=3D Alexander G M Smith <agmsmith@rogers.com> writes:
[...]
Alexander> I'd also like to attach a BeOS style MIME type attribute to
Alexander> everything, even attributes (and you wouldn't have to name
Alexander> the file .jpeg any more). Of course, you will eventually get
Alexander> to primitive attributes that are only a coded byte in the
Alexander> metadata rather than a whole file. But the user shouldn't be
Alexander> able to tell, and even the MIME type attribute could have a
Alexander> fake attribute on it saying that it is of type "text/plain",
Alexander> or perhaps more explicitly "text/mime-string".
AFAICT, MIME types should be user-entered data (or divined from file
extensions, or placed there by a web browser, etc.) They probably
shouldn't be automatically generated. So the MIME/MIME/... loop would
only go as far as the user would care to enter the data, which probably
won't be very far.
I suppose that MIME data could be generated by a plugin that used
file(1), but any plugin that took the MIME nesting too far (i.e. more
than one level) should probably be taken out and shot.
Alexander> To avoid too much recursion, "ls" and other utilities should
Alexander> know which things are primitive things, and avoid trying to
Alexander> list their contents. The easiest way to cram that in would
Alexander> be to add another attribute:
Alexander> Graphic.jpeg/MIME/Primitive contains "true", or maybe a
Alexander> single byte value that is non-zero. Pick one.
I think that the easiest thing would be to just say that if MIME
doesn't contain a MIME attribute, then it's "primitive" (or whatever).
You'll have a lot of files floating around that won't have MIME
attributes anyways. Even if you had a file(1) plugin, since file(1)
can't identify everything (and misidentifies some things).
Alexander> Note it's not Graphic.jpeg/MIME/.Primitive since using a dot
Alexander> prefix to hide things may no longer be necessary - another
Alexander> attribute could take over that job, perhaps call it
Alexander> HideFromUser.
"hidden" is much preferable over "HideFromUser".
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-09-14 3:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-09-11 15:14 Fwd: Re: Reiser4: "pseudo file namespace" suggestion Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-11 15:18 ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-13 23:59 ` Carrying Attributes too Far (was Reiser4: "pseudo file namespace" suggestion) Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-14 1:56 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-14 3:46 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-14 3:53 ` Carrying Attributes too Far Hubert Chan
2003-09-14 4:21 ` Hubert Chan
2003-09-14 3:39 ` Hubert Chan [this message]
2003-09-14 4:21 ` Hubert Chan
2003-09-16 19:15 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-18 17:14 ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-18 18:08 ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-18 20:16 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-18 20:31 ` Grant Miner
2003-09-18 21:44 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-18 22:00 ` Grant Miner
2003-09-18 22:28 ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-18 22:42 ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-18 23:06 ` Grant Miner
2003-09-18 23:17 ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-18 23:23 ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-18 23:28 ` Grant Miner
2003-09-19 0:29 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19 0:28 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19 0:46 ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-19 1:45 ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-19 2:52 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19 4:40 ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-19 8:42 ` Martin Wilck
2003-09-19 13:27 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19 15:13 ` Martin Wilck
2003-09-19 15:35 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19 15:48 ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-19 13:20 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19 13:46 ` Bennett Todd
2003-09-19 19:31 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-19 22:51 ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-20 1:31 ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-22 15:53 ` Attribute Directory Name (Was: Carrying Attributes too Far) Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-22 20:02 ` Narcoleptic Electron
2003-09-22 22:52 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-22 13:28 ` Carrying Attributes too Far lrc1
2003-09-22 22:50 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-23 1:21 ` lrc1
2003-09-23 22:48 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-09-24 16:57 ` lrc1
2003-09-24 9:35 ` Hans Reiser
2003-09-24 17:52 ` lrc1
2003-09-24 19:37 ` Hubert Chan
2003-09-25 3:40 ` Hans Reiser
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-04 5:58 lrc1
2003-10-04 18:17 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2003-10-04 20:10 ` Hubert Chan
2003-12-03 19:18 ` Hans Reiser
2003-12-05 0:30 ` lrc1
2003-12-05 5:27 ` Hubert Chan
2003-12-05 12:38 ` Hans Reiser
2003-12-06 23:33 ` lrc1
2003-12-07 2:48 ` Hubert Chan
2003-12-07 17:08 ` Hans Reiser
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