From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ide write barrier support
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:21:26 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F986276.4010409@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200310231920.39888.phillips@arcor.de>
Daniel Phillips wrote:
>On Thursday 23 October 2003 18:23, Jens Axboe wrote:
>
>>On Thu, Oct 23 2003, Daniel Phillips wrote:
>>
>>>I'm specifically interested in working out the issues related to stacked
>>>virtual devices, and there are many. Let me start with an easy one.
>>>
>>>Consider a multipath virtual device that is doing load balancing and
>>>wants to handle write barriers efficiently, not just allow the
>>>downstream queues to drain before allowing new writes. This device
>>>wants to send a write barrier to each of the downstream devices,
>>>however, we have only one write request to carry the barrier bit. How
>>>do you recommend handling this situation?
>>>
>>That needs something to hold the state in, and a bio per device. As
>>they complete, mark them as such. When they all have completed, barrier
>>is done.
>>
>>That's just an idea, I'm sure there are other ways. Depending on how
>>complex it gets, it might not be a bad idea to just let the queues drain
>>though. I think I'd prefer that approach.
>>
>
>These are essentially the same, they both rely on draining the downstream
>queues. But if we could keep the downstream queues full, bus transfers for
>post-barrier writes will overlap the media transfers for pre-barrier writes,
>which would seem to be worth some extra effort.
>
>To keep the downstream queues full, we must submit write barriers to all the
>downstream devices and not wait for completion. That is, as soon as a
>barrier is issued to a given downstream device we can start passing through
>post-barrier writes to it.
>
>Assuming this is worth doing, how do we issue N barriers to the downstream
>devices when we have only one incoming barrier write?
>
You would do this in the multipath code, wouldn't you?
Anyway, I might be missing something, but I don't think draining the
queue will guarantee that writeback caches will go to permanent storage.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-23 23:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-13 14:08 [PATCH] ide write barrier support Jens Axboe
2003-10-13 15:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-13 15:35 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-13 15:37 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-13 22:39 ` Matthias Andree
2003-10-14 0:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-16 10:36 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-16 10:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-10-16 10:48 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-13 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2003-10-14 6:48 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-15 3:40 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-16 7:10 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-20 17:10 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-20 19:56 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-20 23:46 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-21 5:40 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-23 16:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-23 16:23 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-23 17:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-23 23:21 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2003-10-26 21:06 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-27 10:29 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-27 21:35 ` Daniel Phillips
2003-10-24 9:36 ` Helge Hafting
2003-10-26 15:38 ` Daniel Phillips
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-16 16:51 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-16 20:43 ` Greg Stark
2003-10-17 6:44 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-17 6:46 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-16 20:51 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-17 6:48 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-17 16:07 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-17 18:08 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-17 17:59 Manfred Spraul
2003-10-17 18:06 ` Jens Axboe
2003-10-21 0:47 ` Matthias Andree
2003-10-17 18:42 Mudama, Eric
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2003-10-21 19:24 ` Anton Ertl
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