From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: jt@hpl.hp.com,
Linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Pontus Fuchs <pof@users.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: Announce: ndiswrapper
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:25:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FBC5036.3020503@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031120040034.GF19856@holomorphy.com>
William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> Jean Tourrilhes wrote:
>
>>> Even better :
>>> 1) go to the Wireless LAN Howto
>>> 2) find a card are supported under Linux that suit your needs
>>> 3) buy this card
>>> I don't see the point of giving our money to vendors that
>>>don't care about us when there are vendors making a real effort toward
>>>us.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 10:26:59PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>>Unfortunately that leaves users without support for any recent wireless
>>hardware. It gets more and more difficult to even find Linux-supported
>>wireless at Fry's and other retail locations...
>
>
> And what good would it be to have an entire driver subsystem populated
> by binary-only drivers? That's not part of Linux, that's "welcome to
> nvidia hell" for that subsystem too, and not just graphics cards.
>
> I say we should go the precise opposite direction and take a hard line
> stance against binary drivers, lest we find there are none left we even
> have source to and are bombarded with unfixable bugreports.
Who brought binary drivers into this? And when I have ever advocated
binary drivers?
ndiswrapper has one use IMHO (which was pointed out me in this
thread)... to assist in reverse engineering.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-11-20 5:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-20 3:11 Announce: ndiswrapper Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 3:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-20 3:34 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 12:05 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-11-21 17:25 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 17:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-21 17:43 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-11-21 17:48 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 17:50 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-11-20 4:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 4:16 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 4:35 ` Neil Brown
2003-11-20 4:49 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 4:57 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-11-20 5:05 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 6:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-11-20 5:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 5:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-20 5:36 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 4:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 4:59 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 5:12 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 5:27 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-24 15:40 ` Rik van Riel
2003-11-20 12:41 ` Diego Calleja García
2003-11-20 13:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-11-20 20:24 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2003-11-20 5:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-11-20 9:56 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-11-20 13:15 ` Ralph Metzler
2003-11-20 6:52 ` Matt Mackall
2003-11-20 7:40 ` Nick Piggin
2003-11-20 10:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-11-20 10:17 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 22:47 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20 22:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 23:26 ` Oliver Hunt
2003-11-20 23:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20 13:19 ` Gene Heskett
2003-11-20 23:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20 5:25 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-11-20 5:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 6:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-11-20 17:27 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 23:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-11-21 0:03 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 16:47 ` Jason Lunz
2003-11-20 17:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-20 17:24 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 17:48 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-11-20 18:03 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-11-20 23:01 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-21 5:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-21 7:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-21 7:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-11-21 7:47 ` Nuno Silva
2003-11-21 7:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-11-20 10:55 ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-20 17:22 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-20 23:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-20 23:45 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 17:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-11-23 23:13 ` Jan Rychter
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[not found] ` <TPHV.1vf.1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <TQXu.420.11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-11-21 2:53 ` Andrew Miklas
2003-11-21 10:33 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-11-20 23:53 Mudama, Eric
2003-11-21 0:00 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2003-11-21 1:01 ` Bob McElrath
2003-11-24 17:42 ` Pavel Machek
2003-11-21 7:58 ` Jan De Luyck
2003-11-21 8:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-11-18 11:02 Pontus Fuchs
2003-11-18 12:51 ` Christian Axelsson
2003-11-18 13:26 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-11-18 13:37 ` Christian Axelsson
2003-11-18 13:49 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-11-18 14:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-11-18 13:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-11-18 14:14 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-11-18 14:49 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-11-18 15:31 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-11-18 14:19 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-11-18 14:31 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-11-18 22:22 ` Pavel Machek
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