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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: habanero@us.ibm.com
Cc: rusty@rustcorp.com.au, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:41:49 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FDFC26D.2080206@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200312161137.55034.habanero@us.ibm.com>



Andrew Theurer wrote:

>>In message <3FD7F1B9.5080100@cyberone.com.au> you write:
>>
>>>http://www.kerneltrap.org/~npiggin/w26/
>>>Against 2.6.0-test11
>>>
>>>This includes the SMT description for P4. Initial results shows
>>>comparable performance to Ingo's shared runqueue's patch on a dual P4
>>>Xeon.
>>>
>>I'm still not convinced.  Sharing runqueues is simple, and in fact
>>exactly what you want for HT: you want to balance *runqueues*, not
>>CPUs.  In fact, it can be done without a CONFIG_SCHED_SMT addition.
>>
>>Your patch is more general, more complex, but doesn't actually seem to
>>buy anything.  It puts a general domain structure inside the
>>scheduler, without putting it anywhere else which wants it (eg. slab
>>cache balancing).  My opinion is either (1) produce a general NUMA
>>topology which can then be used by the scheduler, or (2) do the
>>minimal change in the scheduler which makes HT work well.
>>
>
>FWIW, here is a patch I was working on a while back, to have multilevel NUMA 
>heirarchies (based on arch specific NUMA topology) and more importantly, a 
>runqueue centric point of view for all the load balance routines.  This patch 
>is quite rough, and I have not looked at this patch in a while, but maybe it 
>could help someone?
>
>Also, with runqueue centric approach, shared runqueues should just "work", so 
>adding that to this patch should be fairly clean.  
>
>One more thing, we are missing some stuff in the NUMA topology, which Rusty 
>mentions in another email, like core arrangement, arch states, cache 
>locations/types -all that stuff eventually should make it into some sort of 
>topology, be it NUMA topology stuff or a more generic thing like sysfs.  
>Right now we are a bit limited at what the scheduler looks at, just 
>cpu_to_node type stuff...
>

Hi Andrew,
sched domains can do all this. It is currently set up using just the
simple NUMA toplogy, so its much the same, but the potential is there.

It implements a structure to describe topology in detail which is
used to drive scheduling choices. It could quite easily be extended
to include more memory information and become a general description
for topology.



  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-17  2:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200312161127.13691.habanero@us.ibm.com>
2003-12-16 17:37 ` [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler Andrew Theurer
2003-12-17  2:41   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2003-12-17  0:38 Nakajima, Jun
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2003-12-16 19:03 Nakajima, Jun
     [not found] <20031213022038.300B22C2C1@lists.samba.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <3FDAB517.4000309@cyberone.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <brgeo7$huv$1@gatekeeper.tmr.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <3FDBC876.3020603@cyberone.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <20031214043245.GC21241@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]         ` <3FDC3023.9030708@cyberone.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]           ` <1071398761.5233.1.camel@laptop.fenrus.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-12-14 16:26             ` Andi Kleen
2003-12-14 16:54               ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-08  4:25 [PATCH][RFC] make cpu_sibling_map a cpumask_t Nick Piggin
2003-12-08 15:59 ` Anton Blanchard
2003-12-08 23:08   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-09  0:14     ` Anton Blanchard
2003-12-11  4:25       ` [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler Nick Piggin
2003-12-11  7:24         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11  8:57           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 11:52             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 13:09               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 13:23                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 13:30                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 13:32                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 15:30                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 15:38                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 15:51                           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 15:56                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 16:37                               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 16:40                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-12  0:58             ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-11 10:01           ` Rhino
2003-12-11  8:14             ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 16:49               ` Rhino
2003-12-11 15:16                 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 11:40             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 17:05               ` Rhino
2003-12-11 15:17                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 16:28         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-12-11 16:41           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  2:24         ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-12  7:00           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  7:23             ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-13  6:43               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14  1:35                 ` bill davidsen
2003-12-14  2:18                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14  4:32                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-14  9:40                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14 10:46                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-16 17:46                         ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-16 18:22                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17  0:24                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-17  0:41                           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17  0:54                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-16 17:34                     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-15  5:53                 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-15 23:08                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19  4:57                     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19  5:13                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20  2:43                       ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-21  2:56                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-03 18:57                   ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-15 20:21                 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-12-15 23:20                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-16  0:11                     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-12-12  8:59             ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12 15:14               ` Martin J. Bligh

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