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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: the grugq <grugq@hcunix.net>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PATCH - ext2fs privacy (i.e. secure deletion) patch
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 21:40:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40247A63.1030200@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40243F97.3040005@hcunix.net>

There is an extensive literature on how you can recover deleted files 
from media that has been erased a dozen times, but breaking encryption 
is harder.  It is more secure to not put the data on disk unencrypted at 
all is my point.....

Hans

the grugq wrote:

> Well, I think secure deletion should be an option for everyone. Using 
> encryption is a data hiding technique, you prevent people for 
> detemining what sort of data is being stored there. Now, admittedly I 
> dont know at what level the reiser4 encryption appears, but I would 
> think its safer to have complete erasure when a file deleted 
> regardless of how well protected its contents were.
>
> just a thought.
>



  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-07  5:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-28 16:30 PATCH - ext2fs privacy (i.e. secure deletion) patch the grugq
2004-02-03 22:20 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04  0:33   ` the grugq
2004-02-04  0:43     ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04  0:48       ` the grugq
2004-02-04  0:55         ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04  0:58           ` the grugq
2004-02-04  1:10             ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-04  6:29       ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-02-04 13:08         ` the grugq
2004-02-04 17:05           ` Bill Davidsen
2004-02-04 17:14             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-04 23:47               ` Bill Davidsen
2004-02-04 23:51                 ` the grugq
2004-02-05  1:48                 ` the grugq
2004-02-05  4:38                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-07  3:30                   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-02-05  3:35               ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-02-06  0:00                 ` the grugq
2004-02-12 22:59         ` Robert White
2004-02-13  3:41           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 21:30             ` Robert White
2004-02-18  3:48             ` Bill Davidsen
2004-02-18  9:48               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 12:00           ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04  3:20     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-07  0:20       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-07  1:15         ` Hans Reiser
2004-02-07  1:29           ` the grugq
2004-02-07  5:40             ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2004-02-07  9:55               ` the grugq
2004-02-07 10:47                 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-07 11:02                   ` the grugq
2004-02-07 11:09                     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-07 11:46                       ` the grugq
2004-02-07 12:01                         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-07 16:52                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-02-07 17:22                           ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-08  0:04                             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-07 16:50                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-02-07 16:44                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-02-09 12:07                     ` Edward Shishkin
2004-02-10  7:18                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-02-07  2:17           ` Jamie Lokier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-07  9:55 Albert Cahalan

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