Internet Servers behind firewall (passthrough)

Internet Servers behind firewall (passthrough)

[Yuta Kawamoto]

Hi, I am not a very netfilter savvy person. (beginner)
My problem is this:

I have 10 public(internet) IP addresses, each for a server.
These servers run a variety of OS-es, from RedHat Linux to MaxOSX
the only path for them to the internet, is a single network cable(a "red"
colored wire).
Right now, I have a RedHat Linux 9 machine connected to this red wire.
I have installed IPTABLES, but do not really know how to configure rules.

I would like this Linux "routing machine" to take all traffic to the 10
internet IP's
and pass them straight on to the servers connected on the other side of this
machine.


Internet(red wire) -> [eth0]Linux Routing PC[eth1] -> Switch/Hub -> 10
servers

I would need all ports on each of the machines,
as they would be serving all forms of traffic.

I have asked some friends who know more about Linux than I do, to no avail.
I would really appreciate any and all help in this matter.

Yuta Kawamoto

Re: Internet Servers behind firewall (passthrough)

[Ray Leach]

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On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 03:29, Yuta Kawamoto wrote:
> Hi, I am not a very netfilter savvy person. (beginner)
> My problem is this:
> 
> I have 10 public(internet) IP addresses, each for a server.
> These servers run a variety of OS-es, from RedHat Linux to MaxOSX
> the only path for them to the internet, is a single network cable(a "red"
> colored wire).
> Right now, I have a RedHat Linux 9 machine connected to this red wire.
> I have installed IPTABLES, but do not really know how to configure rules.
> 
> I would like this Linux "routing machine" to take all traffic to the 10
> internet IP's
> and pass them straight on to the servers connected on the other side of this
> machine.
> 
You need to investigate DNAT.

> 
> Internet(red wire) -> [eth0]Linux Routing PC[eth1] -> Switch/Hub -> 10
> servers
> 
> I would need all ports on each of the machines,
> as they would be serving all forms of traffic.
> 
> I have asked some friends who know more about Linux than I do, to no avail.
> I would really appreciate any and all help in this matter.
> 
> Yuta Kawamoto
> 
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Re: Internet Servers behind firewall (passthrough)

[Alexander Konovalenko]

[ ... ]
>> I have 10 public(internet) IP addresses, each for a server.
[ ... ]
>> I would like this Linux "routing machine" to take all traffic to the 10
>> internet IP's
>> and pass them straight on to the servers connected on the other side of this
>> machine.
>> 
>You need to investigate DNAT.

No, you don't.

DNAT is a form of Network Address Translation which would be necessary if you didn't have enough public IP addresses.

What you need is to set up your Red Hat machine (one that is directly connected to the internet) to be a router, that is, to forward IP packets it gets from both sides in the right direction.

You can read how IP routing works in the Linux Network Administrator's guide at http://www.tldp.org/LDP/nag2/x-087-2-issues.html.  Start from there and then search for any additional info on how to set up routing table for your router.  Notice that this issue is offtopic in this list, which is dedicated to packet _filtering_, NAT, etc.

You may want to set up some kind of firewalling at your router to protect your servers against different kinds of attacks or abuse.  _This_ is done using iptables.  Please consult appropriate documentation at http://www.netfilter.org/ and http://www.tldp.org/ first.

 -- alexkon

Windows Update through Mandrake firewall

[cbaker]

I am having trouble running Windows Update through a Mandrake 
Multi Network Firewall. I have already asked for help in several other 
forums.

I am able to browse other web sites just fine. The Windows Update site 
appears to fail up when I checks my PC for updates. Microsoft's site 
support site said that I should "disable the firewall."

What ports do I need to open? What rules do I need to have? Could 
this be a Squid issue (our web proxy server)?

Thanks,

Chris


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Re: Windows Update through Mandrake firewall

[Antony Stone]

On Wednesday 11 February 2004 7:02 pm, cbaker@bbbscentralohio.org wrote:

> I am having trouble running Windows Update through a Mandrake
> Multi Network Firewall. I have already asked for help in several other
> forums.
>
> I am able to browse other web sites just fine. The Windows Update site
> appears to fail up when I checks my PC for updates. Microsoft's site
> support site said that I should "disable the firewall."

Hahahaha :)   Wonderful recommendations from Microsoft once again!!

> What ports do I need to open? What rules do I need to have? Could
> this be a Squid issue (our web proxy server)?

Possibly it's a Squid issue, however you should be able to tell that easily 
enough from your Squid logs - see what request comes in from the client, 
whether a response is obtained from the server, and what the status code is.

If in fact it's a netfilter problem, you can find out what ports are being 
blocked (and need to be opened for WinUpdate to work) by adding a LOG rule at 
the end of your FORWARD chain (just before the default DROP policy), and 
seeing what packets get caught (just before being discarded).   If you see 
too much to make sense of it, narrow down the logging rule by specifying the 
source address of the client making the request (this will need to bypass the 
Squid proxy, obviously, otherwise you'll just see the proxy's address, 
however I don't know whether your Squid is on the internal LAN or on a DMZ 
port of your Firewall).

Hope this helps to point you in the right direction,

Regards,

Antony.

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RE: Windows Update through Mandrake firewall

[Ray Anderson]

I have no problems updating several Windows machines behind a Mandrake
machine with iptables.  I do NOT have squid running, and only run the
standard iptables suite vs. the canned Mandrake firewall.

I do not believe this is an iptables issue, but perhaps something else
Mandrake has done with their firewall setup.  My rules are very simple, and
were obtained by following the tutorial from Oskar
(http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html)  I go back
to this document often, and seem to glean something new from it each time.
(Thanks Oskar!)

You shouldn't have to have any ports open, but should use snat from the
internal machines to your external ip address, and dnat from the external ip
address to the related,established ports.  That should be it.

-=Ray
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> [mailto:netfilter-admin@lists.netfilter.org] On Behalf Of 
> cbaker@bbbscentralohio.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 11:03 AM
> To: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
> Subject: Windows Update through Mandrake firewall
> 
> 
> I am having trouble running Windows Update through a Mandrake 
> Multi Network Firewall. I have already asked for help in 
> several other 
> forums.
> 
> I am able to browse other web sites just fine. The Windows 
> Update site 
> appears to fail up when I checks my PC for updates. Microsoft's site 
> support site said that I should "disable the firewall."
> 
> What ports do I need to open? What rules do I need to have? Could 
> this be a Squid issue (our web proxy server)?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
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> 614-839-2447x108
> cbaker@bbbscentralohio.org
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> www.bbbscentralohio.org
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> 

SOLVED: Windows Update through Mandrake firewall

[Chris Baker]

It was a Squid problem. Squid had disabled several applications. Once I
enabled those web apps, Windows Update worked fine. Thanks for the
suggestion, even though this wasn't an IP tables issue.

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From: Ray Anderson [mailto:rsa@prideindustries.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 2:56 PM
To: Chris Baker; netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
Subject: RE: Windows Update through Mandrake firewall

I have no problems updating several Windows machines behind a Mandrake
machine with iptables.  I do NOT have squid running, and only run the
standard iptables suite vs. the canned Mandrake firewall.

I do not believe this is an iptables issue, but perhaps something else
Mandrake has done with their firewall setup.  My rules are very simple, and
were obtained by following the tutorial from Oskar
(http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html)  I go back
to this document often, and seem to glean something new from it each time.
(Thanks Oskar!)

You shouldn't have to have any ports open, but should use snat from the
internal machines to your external ip address, and dnat from the external ip
address to the related,established ports.  That should be it.

-=Ray
---------------------------------------
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Baron Manfred von Richthofen


> -----Original Message-----
> From: netfilter-admin@lists.netfilter.org 
> [mailto:netfilter-admin@lists.netfilter.org] On Behalf Of 
> cbaker@bbbscentralohio.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 11:03 AM
> To: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
> Subject: Windows Update through Mandrake firewall
> 
> 
> I am having trouble running Windows Update through a Mandrake 
> Multi Network Firewall. I have already asked for help in 
> several other 
> forums.
> 
> I am able to browse other web sites just fine. The Windows 
> Update site 
> appears to fail up when I checks my PC for updates. Microsoft's site 
> support site said that I should "disable the firewall."
> 
> What ports do I need to open? What rules do I need to have? Could 
> this be a Squid issue (our web proxy server)?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> ========================================
> Chris Baker -- technical specialist
> 614-839-2447x108
> cbaker@bbbscentralohio.org
> Big Brothers Big Sisters of Central Ohio
> www.bbbscentralohio.org
> Opinions expressed in this e-mail are solely my own.
> 
> 

Windows Update through Mandrake firewall

[fear81]

<< It was a Squid problem. Squid had disabled several applications. Once I
<< enabled those web apps, Windows Update worked fine. Thanks for the
<< suggestion, even though this wasn't an IP tables issue.

Could you tell me what did you change from the default settings of
squid. And if you could paste your squid.conf it also could be very
helpful. THX

Windows Update through Mandrake firewall

[fear81]

Message connected with:
https://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfilter/2004-February/050393.html

<< It was a Squid problem. Squid had disabled several applications. Once I
<< enabled those web apps, Windows Update worked fine. Thanks for the
<< suggestion, even though this wasn't an IP tables issue.

Could you tell me what did you change from the default settings of
squid. And if you could paste your squid.conf it also could be very
helpful. THX