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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: davidm@hpl.hp.com
Cc: Grant Grundler <iod00d@hp.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	vojtech@suse.cz, linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	pochini@shiny.it
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: serious 2.6 bug in USB subsystem?
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 02:53:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <404E8346.4070405@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16462.21505.526926.903904@napali.hpl.hp.com>

David Mosberger wrote:

> Anyhow, I have been wondering since about Sunday whether it's really
> safe to write HcControlHeadED (and HcBulkHeadED) with 0.  The register
> description itself is ambiguous.  Now I'm finding that Figure 6-5
> "List Service Flow" and Section 6.4.2.2 "Locating Endpoint
> Descriptors" are outright contradictory!

OHCI isn't as tightly specified as one might like.  There are also
differences in how vendors implemented it (notably initialization);
but at least there don't seem to be major incompatibilities that
crept in between implementations.


> So, if the HC behaves as described in the text, then there is an
> obvious race:
> ....
> So I changed ohci-q.c ... to this:
> 
> 	if (ed->ed_prev = NULL) {
> 		if (!ed->hwNextED) {
> 			ohci->hc_control &= ~OHCI_CTRL_CLE;
> 			writel (ohci->hc_control, &ohci->regs->control);
> 		} else

(added the ELSE)

> 			writel (le32_to_cpup (&ed->hwNextED),
> 				&ohci->regs->ed_controlhead);
> 	} else ...
> 
> and now there are no more crashes when plugging in the BTC keyboard.

Interesting.  I had those "else"s in the patch I was testing too,
and they were literally the last "is this really needed?" change I
removed before posting that patch yesterday.  I had tested it on
four different implementations of OHCI (two on SMP) and the "else"
didn't make a difference ... as it might not, given the race
you identified.   This is a good example of something better
found with a fresh set of eyes looking at spec and code!

Looks like that's really needed then!  Whose OHCI silicon are
you testing with, by the way?  Good catch, regardless.

- Dave




WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: davidm@hpl.hp.com
Cc: Grant Grundler <iod00d@hp.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	vojtech@suse.cz, linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	pochini@shiny.it
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: serious 2.6 bug in USB subsystem?
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 18:53:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <404E8346.4070405@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16462.21505.526926.903904@napali.hpl.hp.com>

David Mosberger wrote:

> Anyhow, I have been wondering since about Sunday whether it's really
> safe to write HcControlHeadED (and HcBulkHeadED) with 0.  The register
> description itself is ambiguous.  Now I'm finding that Figure 6-5
> "List Service Flow" and Section 6.4.2.2 "Locating Endpoint
> Descriptors" are outright contradictory!

OHCI isn't as tightly specified as one might like.  There are also
differences in how vendors implemented it (notably initialization);
but at least there don't seem to be major incompatibilities that
crept in between implementations.


> So, if the HC behaves as described in the text, then there is an
> obvious race:
> ....
> So I changed ohci-q.c ... to this:
> 
> 	if (ed->ed_prev == NULL) {
> 		if (!ed->hwNextED) {
> 			ohci->hc_control &= ~OHCI_CTRL_CLE;
> 			writel (ohci->hc_control, &ohci->regs->control);
> 		} else

(added the ELSE)

> 			writel (le32_to_cpup (&ed->hwNextED),
> 				&ohci->regs->ed_controlhead);
> 	} else ...
> 
> and now there are no more crashes when plugging in the BTC keyboard.

Interesting.  I had those "else"s in the patch I was testing too,
and they were literally the last "is this really needed?" change I
removed before posting that patch yesterday.  I had tested it on
four different implementations of OHCI (two on SMP) and the "else"
didn't make a difference ... as it might not, given the race
you identified.   This is a good example of something better
found with a fresh set of eyes looking at spec and code!

Looks like that's really needed then!  Whose OHCI silicon are
you testing with, by the way?  Good catch, regardless.

- Dave




  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-10  2:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-27 22:35 serious 2.6 bug in USB subsystem? David Mosberger
2003-10-28  1:30 ` Greg KH
2003-10-28  3:00   ` David Mosberger
2003-10-30 15:11     ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2003-10-30 20:15       ` David Mosberger
     [not found]         ` <16289.55171.278494.17172@napali.hpl.hp.com>
2003-10-31 16:23           ` David Brownell
2003-10-31 18:34             ` David Mosberger
2003-10-31 18:50               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-31 19:28               ` David Brownell
2003-10-31 19:50                 ` David Mosberger
2003-10-31 20:06                   ` David S. Miller
2004-03-06  2:08             ` David Mosberger
2004-03-06  2:08               ` David Mosberger
2004-03-06  2:13               ` David Mosberger
2004-03-06  2:13                 ` David Mosberger
2004-03-06  4:55               ` David Brownell
2004-03-06  4:55                 ` David Brownell
2004-03-06  5:49                 ` David Mosberger
2004-03-06  5:49                   ` David Mosberger
2004-03-06  7:21                   ` David Mosberger
2004-03-06  7:21                     ` David Mosberger
2004-03-06  8:39                     ` David Mosberger
2004-03-06  8:39                       ` David Mosberger
2004-03-06 16:37                   ` David Brownell
2004-03-06 16:37                     ` David Brownell
2004-03-08  6:18                     ` Grant Grundler
2004-03-08  6:18                       ` Grant Grundler
2004-03-08 18:58                       ` David Mosberger
2004-03-08 18:58                         ` David Mosberger
2004-03-08 21:48                         ` David Brownell
2004-03-08 21:48                           ` David Brownell
2004-03-09  9:15                           ` David Mosberger
2004-03-09  9:15                             ` David Mosberger
2004-03-09 17:36                             ` David Brownell
2004-03-09 17:36                               ` David Brownell
2004-03-09 17:58                               ` David Mosberger
2004-03-09 17:58                                 ` David Mosberger
2004-03-09 20:39                                 ` David Brownell
2004-03-09 20:39                                   ` David Brownell
2004-03-09 23:32                                   ` David Mosberger
2004-03-09 23:32                                     ` David Mosberger
2004-03-10  2:53                                     ` David Brownell [this message]
2004-03-10  2:53                                       ` David Brownell
2004-03-10  6:11                                       ` David Mosberger
2004-03-10  6:11                                         ` David Mosberger
2004-03-10  6:59                                   ` David Mosberger
2004-03-10  6:59                                     ` David Mosberger
2004-03-10  7:52                                     ` Wouter Lueks
2004-03-10 16:49                                       ` David Mosberger
2004-03-10 19:49                                         ` Wouter Lueks
2004-03-10 16:22                                     ` David Brownell
2004-03-10 16:22                                       ` David Brownell
2004-03-10 18:04                                       ` David Mosberger
2004-03-10 18:04                                         ` David Mosberger
2004-03-11  2:43                                         ` David Brownell
2004-03-11  2:43                                           ` David Brownell
2004-03-11  5:35                                           ` David Mosberger
2004-03-11  5:35                                             ` David Mosberger
2004-03-10 19:29                                     ` Colin Leroy
2004-03-06  9:17                 ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Mosberger
2004-03-06  9:17                   ` David Mosberger
2004-03-06 17:30                   ` David Brownell
2004-03-06 17:30                     ` David Brownell
2004-03-07 13:48                     ` Matthias Andree
2004-03-08 18:49                     ` David Mosberger
2004-03-08 18:49                       ` David Mosberger
2003-11-03  3:46         ` David Brownell
2003-11-03 21:25           ` David Mosberger
2004-03-03 12:33 ` Wouter Lueks
2004-03-03 15:30   ` Wouter Lueks

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