Problems module autoload in 2.6.x

Problems module autoload in 2.6.x

[Thomas Steudten]

Hello

Kernel 2.6.4:
Some modules (floppy, lp, loop..) won´t be autoloaded any more since
2.4.21. There´s no block-major aso. request in the kernel-ring buffer.
I have /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf with modutils-2.4.21-23.1
and depmod -V: module-init-tools 3.0-pre5. How can I track this down?
Shouldn't be there a kmod process/ thread in the process list?

Sorry, if I miss something to read.


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Problems module autoload in 2.6.x

[Thomas Steudten]

Hello

Kernel 2.6.4:
Some modules (floppy, lp, loop..) won´t be autoloaded any more since
2.4.21. There´s no block-major aso. request in the kernel-ring buffer.
I have /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf with modutils-2.4.21-23.1
and depmod -V: module-init-tools 3.0-pre5. How can I track this down?
Shouldn't be there a kmod process/ thread in the process list?

Sorry, if I miss something to read.


-- 
Tom

LINUX user since kernel 0.99.x 1994.
RPM Alpha packages at http://alpha.steudten.com/packages
Want to know what S.u.S.E 1995 cdrom-set contains?

Re: Problems module autoload in 2.6.x

[Thomas Steudten]

Hi

2.6.4 on alpha:

  zgrep -i mod /proc/config.gz
# Loadable module support
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
# CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD is not set
CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y

grep -i floppy /etc/modprobe.conf
alias block-major-2-* floppy

strace -estat,open /sbin/modprobe -v floppy
open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)    = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)      = 3
open("/lib/libc.so.6.1", O_RDONLY)      = 3
open("/etc/modprobe.conf", O_RDONLY)    = 3
open("/lib/modules/2.6.4/modules.dep", O_RDONLY) = 3
open("/proc/modules", O_RDONLY)         = 3
open("/lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko", O_RDONLY) = 3
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko

=> OK
without module floppy loaded:
mdir a:
Can't open /dev/fd0: No such device or address
No msg in KRB (dmesg) and log from  /tmp/modprobe.log
=> FAILED
modprobe -v floppy
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko
=> OK
mdir a:
=> OK

My questions are:
1. What process name has the "new" kmod? There´s no such process in the
table.
2. What triggers to run the prog given in /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe (
for a missing device)?

Strange: Looks like there is no kmod build or loaded or ..
I should look in detail about this..


>>Kernel 2.6.4:
>>Some modules (floppy, lp, loop..) won´t be autoloaded any more since
>>2.4.21. There´s no block-major aso. request in the kernel-ring buffer.
>>I have /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf with modutils-2.4.21-23.1
>>and depmod -V: module-init-tools 3.0-pre5. How can I track this down?
>>Shouldn't be there a kmod process/ thread in the process list?
> 
> 
> Check you have CONFIG_KMOD=y.  If so, the correct way of debugging
> module problems is something like this:
> 
> echo '#! /bin/sh' > /tmp/modprobe
> echo 'echo "$@" >> /tmp/modprobe.log' >> /tmp/modprobe
> echo 'exec /sbin/modprobe "$@"' >> /tmp/modprobe
> chmod a+x /tmp/modprobe
> echo /tmp/modprobe > /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe
> 
> Then do something that should cause the module to load: you'll see the
> command which gets called in /tmp/modprobe.log.  Then you can add "-v"
> and run it manually, hopefully providing enlightenment.


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Re: Problems module autoload in 2.6.x

[Thomas Steudten]

Hi

2.6.4 on alpha:

  zgrep -i mod /proc/config.gz
# Loadable module support
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
# CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD is not set
CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y

grep -i floppy /etc/modprobe.conf
alias block-major-2-* floppy

strace -estat,open /sbin/modprobe -v floppy
open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)    = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)      = 3
open("/lib/libc.so.6.1", O_RDONLY)      = 3
open("/etc/modprobe.conf", O_RDONLY)    = 3
open("/lib/modules/2.6.4/modules.dep", O_RDONLY) = 3
open("/proc/modules", O_RDONLY)         = 3
open("/lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko", O_RDONLY) = 3
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko

=> OK
without module floppy loaded:
mdir a:
Can't open /dev/fd0: No such device or address
No msg in KRB (dmesg) and log from  /tmp/modprobe.log
=> FAILED
modprobe -v floppy
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko
=> OK
mdir a:
=> OK

My questions are:
1. What process name has the "new" kmod? There´s no such process in the
table.
2. What triggers to run the prog given in /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe (
for a missing device)?

Strange: Looks like there is no kmod build or loaded or ..
I should look in detail about this..


>>Kernel 2.6.4:
>>Some modules (floppy, lp, loop..) won´t be autoloaded any more since
>>2.4.21. There´s no block-major aso. request in the kernel-ring buffer.
>>I have /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf with modutils-2.4.21-23.1
>>and depmod -V: module-init-tools 3.0-pre5. How can I track this down?
>>Shouldn't be there a kmod process/ thread in the process list?
> 
> 
> Check you have CONFIG_KMOD=y.  If so, the correct way of debugging
> module problems is something like this:
> 
> echo '#! /bin/sh' > /tmp/modprobe
> echo 'echo "$@" >> /tmp/modprobe.log' >> /tmp/modprobe
> echo 'exec /sbin/modprobe "$@"' >> /tmp/modprobe
> chmod a+x /tmp/modprobe
> echo /tmp/modprobe > /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe
> 
> Then do something that should cause the module to load: you'll see the
> command which gets called in /tmp/modprobe.log.  Then you can add "-v"
> and run it manually, hopefully providing enlightenment.

Re: Problems module autoload in 2.6.x

[Thomas Steudten]

Ok,

What I see:
In 2.4.x the modprobe has option -k  [..], which
is set in the request_module() in kmod.c.
Also the string "(autoclean)" is printed for
lsmod, if the module was loaded with the -k
option for modprobe from the kernel.
The string is coded in the module.c in 2.4.x.

In kernel 2.6.x, I use 2.6.4, the option -k to
modprobe is gone. Also the request_module() call
in the kernel source, don´t set this option.
The lsmod or cat /proc/modules don't gives
the string "(autoclean)" any more. But that's
another point, don't know why this is gone..

What I have done to trace this down:
I have add a printk to the request_module()
call, to see what is happen there.

If I call mdir a:, the floppy module
isn´t requested in request_module().
Same problem for modules
- lp
- floppy
- loop

I thought if there's no request_module() call
in the kernel next to this module, the generic
one in

genhd.c for block devices and
static struct kobject *base_probe(dev_t dev, int *part, void *data)
{
          printk( KERN_ERR "base_probe: enter %d %d\n",MAJOR(dev), MINOR(dev));
         if (request_module("block-major-%d-%d", MAJOR(dev), MINOR(dev)) > 0)
                 /* Make old-style 2.4 aliases work */
                 request_module("block-major-%d", MAJOR(dev));
         return NULL;
}
misc.c for char devices
static int misc_open(struct inode * inode, struct file * file)
{
         int minor = iminor(inode);
         struct miscdevice *c;
         int err = -ENODEV;
         struct file_operations *old_fops, *new_fops = NULL;

         down(&misc_sem);

         list_for_each_entry(c, &misc_list, list) {
                 if (c->minor == minor) {
                         new_fops = fops_get(c->fops);
                         break;
                 }
         }

         if (!new_fops) {
                 up(&misc_sem);
                 request_module("char-major-%d-%d", MISC_MAJOR, minor);


But the modules aren't never requested. What is going wrong here?
I just wonder, that nobody but me has this problem.
Another point to the missing autoload feature, is the autoclean support
for modules. Why is this gone?

Please CC: me.

2.6.4 on alpha:

  zgrep -i mod /proc/config.gz
# Loadable module support
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
# CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD is not set
CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y

grep -i floppy /etc/modprobe.conf
alias block-major-2-* floppy

strace -estat,open /sbin/modprobe -v floppy
open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)    = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)      = 3
open("/lib/libc.so.6.1", O_RDONLY)      = 3
open("/etc/modprobe.conf", O_RDONLY)    = 3
open("/lib/modules/2.6.4/modules.dep", O_RDONLY) = 3
open("/proc/modules", O_RDONLY)         = 3
open("/lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko", O_RDONLY) = 3
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko

=> OK
without module floppy loaded:
mdir a:
Can't open /dev/fd0: No such device or address
No msg in KRB (dmesg) and log from  /tmp/modprobe.log
=> FAILED
modprobe -v floppy
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko
=> OK
mdir a:
=> OK

My questions are:
1. What process name has the "new" kmod? There´s no such process in the
table.
2. What triggers to run the prog given in /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe (
for a missing device)?

Strange: Looks like there is no kmod build or loaded or ..
I should look in detail about this..


>>Kernel 2.6.4:
>>Some modules (floppy, lp, loop..) won´t be autoloaded any more since
>>2.4.21. There´s no block-major aso. request in the kernel-ring buffer.
>>I have /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf with modutils-2.4.21-23.1
>>and depmod -V: module-init-tools 3.0-pre5. How can I track this down?
>>Shouldn't be there a kmod process/ thread in the process list?
> 
> 
> Check you have CONFIG_KMOD=y.  If so, the correct way of debugging
> module problems is something like this:
> 
> echo '#! /bin/sh' > /tmp/modprobe
> echo 'echo "$@" >> /tmp/modprobe.log' >> /tmp/modprobe
> echo 'exec /sbin/modprobe "$@"' >> /tmp/modprobe
> chmod a+x /tmp/modprobe
> echo /tmp/modprobe > /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe
> 
> Then do something that should cause the module to load: you'll see the
> command which gets called in /tmp/modprobe.log.  Then you can add "-v"
> and run it manually, hopefully providing enlightenment.




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Re: Problems module autoload in 2.6.x

[Thomas Steudten]

Ok,

What I see:
In 2.4.x the modprobe has option -k  [..], which
is set in the request_module() in kmod.c.
Also the string "(autoclean)" is printed for
lsmod, if the module was loaded with the -k
option for modprobe from the kernel.
The string is coded in the module.c in 2.4.x.

In kernel 2.6.x, I use 2.6.4, the option -k to
modprobe is gone. Also the request_module() call
in the kernel source, don´t set this option.
The lsmod or cat /proc/modules don't gives
the string "(autoclean)" any more. But that's
another point, don't know why this is gone..

What I have done to trace this down:
I have add a printk to the request_module()
call, to see what is happen there.

If I call mdir a:, the floppy module
isn´t requested in request_module().
Same problem for modules
- lp
- floppy
- loop

I thought if there's no request_module() call
in the kernel next to this module, the generic
one in

genhd.c for block devices and
static struct kobject *base_probe(dev_t dev, int *part, void *data)
{
          printk( KERN_ERR "base_probe: enter %d %d\n",MAJOR(dev), MINOR(dev));
         if (request_module("block-major-%d-%d", MAJOR(dev), MINOR(dev)) > 0)
                 /* Make old-style 2.4 aliases work */
                 request_module("block-major-%d", MAJOR(dev));
         return NULL;
}
misc.c for char devices
static int misc_open(struct inode * inode, struct file * file)
{
         int minor = iminor(inode);
         struct miscdevice *c;
         int err = -ENODEV;
         struct file_operations *old_fops, *new_fops = NULL;

         down(&misc_sem);

         list_for_each_entry(c, &misc_list, list) {
                 if (c->minor == minor) {
                         new_fops = fops_get(c->fops);
                         break;
                 }
         }

         if (!new_fops) {
                 up(&misc_sem);
                 request_module("char-major-%d-%d", MISC_MAJOR, minor);


But the modules aren't never requested. What is going wrong here?
I just wonder, that nobody but me has this problem.
Another point to the missing autoload feature, is the autoclean support
for modules. Why is this gone?

Please CC: me.

2.6.4 on alpha:

  zgrep -i mod /proc/config.gz
# Loadable module support
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
# CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD is not set
CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y

grep -i floppy /etc/modprobe.conf
alias block-major-2-* floppy

strace -estat,open /sbin/modprobe -v floppy
open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)    = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)      = 3
open("/lib/libc.so.6.1", O_RDONLY)      = 3
open("/etc/modprobe.conf", O_RDONLY)    = 3
open("/lib/modules/2.6.4/modules.dep", O_RDONLY) = 3
open("/proc/modules", O_RDONLY)         = 3
open("/lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko", O_RDONLY) = 3
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko

=> OK
without module floppy loaded:
mdir a:
Can't open /dev/fd0: No such device or address
No msg in KRB (dmesg) and log from  /tmp/modprobe.log
=> FAILED
modprobe -v floppy
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.4/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko
=> OK
mdir a:
=> OK

My questions are:
1. What process name has the "new" kmod? There´s no such process in the
table.
2. What triggers to run the prog given in /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe (
for a missing device)?

Strange: Looks like there is no kmod build or loaded or ..
I should look in detail about this..


>>Kernel 2.6.4:
>>Some modules (floppy, lp, loop..) won´t be autoloaded any more since
>>2.4.21. There´s no block-major aso. request in the kernel-ring buffer.
>>I have /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf with modutils-2.4.21-23.1
>>and depmod -V: module-init-tools 3.0-pre5. How can I track this down?
>>Shouldn't be there a kmod process/ thread in the process list?
> 
> 
> Check you have CONFIG_KMOD=y.  If so, the correct way of debugging
> module problems is something like this:
> 
> echo '#! /bin/sh' > /tmp/modprobe
> echo 'echo "$@" >> /tmp/modprobe.log' >> /tmp/modprobe
> echo 'exec /sbin/modprobe "$@"' >> /tmp/modprobe
> chmod a+x /tmp/modprobe
> echo /tmp/modprobe > /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe
> 
> Then do something that should cause the module to load: you'll see the
> command which gets called in /tmp/modprobe.log.  Then you can add "-v"
> and run it manually, hopefully providing enlightenment.

Re: Problems module autoload in 2.6.x

[Rusty Russell]

On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 05:39, Thomas Steudten wrote:
> In kernel 2.6.x, I use 2.6.4, the option -k to
> modprobe is gone. Also the request_module() call
> in the kernel source, don´t set this option.
> The lsmod or cat /proc/modules don't gives
> the string "(autoclean)" any more. But that's
> another point, don't know why this is gone..

Because there's no autocleaning of modules any more.  You'd
wipe out your network modules every time, for a start.

> If I call mdir a:, the floppy module
> isn´t requested in request_module().

To debug this, please create a dummy modprobe like I suggested before.
That will tell you (1) whether modprobe is being called when you do
an mdir, and (2) what module it's asking for.

Cheers,
Rusty.
-- 
Anyone who quotes me in their signature is an idiot -- Rusty Russell

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Re: Problems module autoload in 2.6.x

[Rusty Russell]

On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 05:39, Thomas Steudten wrote:
> In kernel 2.6.x, I use 2.6.4, the option -k to
> modprobe is gone. Also the request_module() call
> in the kernel source, don´t set this option.
> The lsmod or cat /proc/modules don't gives
> the string "(autoclean)" any more. But that's
> another point, don't know why this is gone..

Because there's no autocleaning of modules any more.  You'd
wipe out your network modules every time, for a start.

> If I call mdir a:, the floppy module
> isn´t requested in request_module().

To debug this, please create a dummy modprobe like I suggested before.
That will tell you (1) whether modprobe is being called when you do
an mdir, and (2) what module it's asking for.

Cheers,
Rusty.
-- 
Anyone who quotes me in their signature is an idiot -- Rusty Russell