Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4 enabled livecd

Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4 enabled livecd

[Kasper Sandberg]

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hi Hans, and other reiser4 folks.

as you probably know, there is a patchset for the linux kernel thats
called love-sources.
this is a kernel tree that among other patches, focuses mainly on
reiser4, and general functionality.

we are quite many that uses reiser4, and more are to come, just waiting
for a thing to install with.
therefore i have created a gentoo livecd, it has the linux 2.6.5 kernel,
patched with reiser4, and the
tail fix.

as this cd is not only meant as Gentoo installation cd, i have also
included some common system tools.
to make life easier to its users.

we, in #love-sources, freenode believe that working closely together
with namesys, in the final debugging
of reiser4, will ensure a more determined bug catching process.

i have no location on the livecd yet, i dont have hosting.
my plan is something about bittorrent, and maybe i can find some
hosting. but i will have to lookup both stuff. untill then. the livecd
is only availiable if you contact me, either via irc, or via
redeeman@<nospam>metanurb.dk and then we arrange something.

i hope you will find it useful

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Re: Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4 enabled livecd

[Hans Reiser]

Hmmm, flx, how about creating links, etc., to this stuff on our web page?

Thanks much Kasper.

Hans

Kasper Sandberg wrote:

>hi Hans, and other reiser4 folks.
>
>as you probably know, there is a patchset for the linux kernel thats
>called love-sources.
>this is a kernel tree that among other patches, focuses mainly on
>reiser4, and general functionality.
>
>we are quite many that uses reiser4, and more are to come, just waiting
>for a thing to install with.
>therefore i have created a gentoo livecd, it has the linux 2.6.5 kernel,
>patched with reiser4, and the
>tail fix.
>
>as this cd is not only meant as Gentoo installation cd, i have also
>included some common system tools.
>to make life easier to its users.
>
>we, in #love-sources, freenode believe that working closely together
>with namesys, in the final debugging
>of reiser4, will ensure a more determined bug catching process.
>
>i have no location on the livecd yet, i dont have hosting.
>my plan is something about bittorrent, and maybe i can find some
>hosting. but i will have to lookup both stuff. untill then. the livecd
>is only availiable if you contact me, either via irc, or via
>redeeman@<nospam>metanurb.dk and then we arrange something.
>
>i hope you will find it useful
>
>  
>


-- 
Hans

Re: Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4 enabled livecd

[Alexander Lyamin]

Hi guys,
basically I created (for my own joy) suse 9.0 proffesional CD1 which with some minor
"console magic" may be used as install CD for system with reiser4.

basically its 2.6.5 kernel + v4 latest snapshot + reiser4progs
in initrd image (so you can create reiser4 partition and then point
suse autoyast to install on it).

two things that left to solve:

 - modularize the kernel (so it become multiplatform, and multihardware).
 - RPM'ize the kernel and put it on CD (so you can install it right out
of autoyast installer).


and one question needed to be answered:

 - what would SuSE say if we will publish this CD image.


Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 12:19:35AM +0200, Kasper Sandberg wrote:
> 
> hi Hans, and other reiser4 folks.
> 
> as you probably know, there is a patchset for the linux kernel thats
> called love-sources.
> this is a kernel tree that among other patches, focuses mainly on
> reiser4, and general functionality.
> 
> we are quite many that uses reiser4, and more are to come, just waiting
> for a thing to install with.
> therefore i have created a gentoo livecd, it has the linux 2.6.5 kernel,
> patched with reiser4, and the
> tail fix.
> 
> as this cd is not only meant as Gentoo installation cd, i have also
> included some common system tools.
> to make life easier to its users.
> 
> we, in #love-sources, freenode believe that working closely together
> with namesys, in the final debugging
> of reiser4, will ensure a more determined bug catching process.
> 
> i have no location on the livecd yet, i dont have hosting.
> my plan is something about bittorrent, and maybe i can find some
> hosting. but i will have to lookup both stuff. untill then. the livecd
> is only availiable if you contact me, either via irc, or via
> redeeman@<nospam>metanurb.dk and then we arrange something.
> 
> i hope you will find it useful
> 
> -- 
> Regards			  - Kasper Sandberg
> postmaster@metanurb.dk	  - PGP-Key is available on request
> ()  ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail 
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lex lyamin

Re: reiser4 enabled livecd

[Szakacsits Szabolcs]

Hello,

Talking about livecd's, I'd mention that Recovery Is Possible has also
Reiser4. It's very often updated, kernel 2.6.5 and as I noticed it always
has the latest from everything and only 26 MB download:

      http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/

I made some "real world" ntfsclone benchmarks what I use very often during
NTFS development (e.g. test suite). It reads the NTFS allocation bitmap,
seeks to the used data positions on the source device, seeks to the same
position in the destination sparse file or block device and copy the data
thus the clone is immediately mountable.

Resiser4 beat everybody: ext2, ext3, xfs, reiserfs, jfs and even including
raw cloning between partitions! I've never seen such before for any
filesystem, it _indeed_ optimizes the disk seeks significantly.

It was about 5% faster than raw cloning and at least 10% faster then the
next fastest filesytems (ext2 and xfs). I can send full details if one is
interested.

Congratulations!

	Szaka

Re: Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4 enabled livecd

[Kasper Sandberg]

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On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 00:27, Hans Reiser wrote:
> Hmmm, flx, how about creating links, etc., to this stuff on our web page?
> 
sure, at the point, this cd doesent have any site (but will get soon.)
right now there are 3 mirrors for torrent file:

www.damnsite.net/mrnugget/LiveCD-Gentoo-Reiser4.iso.torrent
www.eikke.com/uploads/LiveCD-Gentoo-Reiser4.iso.torrent
http://oneofone.limitlessfx.com/love-sources/LiveCD-Gentoo-Reiser4.iso.torrent

feel free to add the links to the site, or wait to i create a webpage
for the livecd.


> Thanks much Kasper.
> 
no problem, its a pleasure to help!
> Hans
> 
> Kasper Sandberg wrote:
> 
> >hi Hans, and other reiser4 folks.
> >
> >as you probably know, there is a patchset for the linux kernel thats
> >called love-sources.
> >this is a kernel tree that among other patches, focuses mainly on
> >reiser4, and general functionality.
> >
> >we are quite many that uses reiser4, and more are to come, just waiting
> >for a thing to install with.
> >therefore i have created a gentoo livecd, it has the linux 2.6.5 kernel,
> >patched with reiser4, and the
> >tail fix.
> >
> >as this cd is not only meant as Gentoo installation cd, i have also
> >included some common system tools.
> >to make life easier to its users.
> >
> >we, in #love-sources, freenode believe that working closely together
> >with namesys, in the final debugging
> >of reiser4, will ensure a more determined bug catching process.
> >
> >i have no location on the livecd yet, i dont have hosting.
> >my plan is something about bittorrent, and maybe i can find some
> >hosting. but i will have to lookup both stuff. untill then. the livecd
> >is only availiable if you contact me, either via irc, or via
> >redeeman@<nospam>metanurb.dk and then we arrange something.
> >
> >i hope you will find it useful
> >
> >  
> >
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Re: reiser4 enabled livecd

[Alexander Lyamin]

Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 02:12:40PM +0200, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Talking about livecd's, I'd mention that Recovery Is Possible has also
> Reiser4. It's very often updated, kernel 2.6.5 and as I noticed it always
> has the latest from everything and only 26 MB download:
> 
>       http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/

thanks for very intresting link, i'm into such things at moment ;)

> I made some "real world" ntfsclone benchmarks what I use very often during
> NTFS development (e.g. test suite). It reads the NTFS allocation bitmap,
> seeks to the used data positions on the source device, seeks to the same
> position in the destination sparse file or block device and copy the data
> thus the clone is immediately mountable.
> 
> Resiser4 beat everybody: ext2, ext3, xfs, reiserfs, jfs and even including
> raw cloning between partitions! I've never seen such before for any
> filesystem, it _indeed_ optimizes the disk seeks significantly.
> 
> It was about 5% faster than raw cloning and at least 10% faster then the
> next fastest filesytems (ext2 and xfs). I can send full details if one is
> interested.

intrested.

> 
> Congratulations!
> 
> 	Szaka

-- 
"the liberation loophole will make it clear.."
lex lyamin

Re: Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4 enabled livecd

[Hans Reiser]

Alexander Lyamin wrote:

>Hi guys,
>basically I created (for my own joy) suse 9.0 proffesional CD1 which with some minor
>"console magic" may be used as install CD for system with reiser4.
>
>basically its 2.6.5 kernel + v4 latest snapshot + reiser4progs
>in initrd image (so you can create reiser4 partition and then point
>suse autoyast to install on it).
>
>two things that left to solve:
>
> - modularize the kernel (so it become multiplatform, and multihardware).
> - RPM'ize the kernel and put it on CD (so you can install it right out
>of autoyast installer).
>
>
>and one question needed to be answered:
>
> - what would SuSE say if we will publish this CD image.
>  
>
I don't know.  We should ask them.  Are there license restrictions?

>
>Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 12:19:35AM +0200, Kasper Sandberg wrote:
>  
>
>>hi Hans, and other reiser4 folks.
>>
>>as you probably know, there is a patchset for the linux kernel thats
>>called love-sources.
>>this is a kernel tree that among other patches, focuses mainly on
>>reiser4, and general functionality.
>>
>>we are quite many that uses reiser4, and more are to come, just waiting
>>for a thing to install with.
>>therefore i have created a gentoo livecd, it has the linux 2.6.5 kernel,
>>patched with reiser4, and the
>>tail fix.
>>
>>as this cd is not only meant as Gentoo installation cd, i have also
>>included some common system tools.
>>to make life easier to its users.
>>
>>we, in #love-sources, freenode believe that working closely together
>>with namesys, in the final debugging
>>of reiser4, will ensure a more determined bug catching process.
>>
>>i have no location on the livecd yet, i dont have hosting.
>>my plan is something about bittorrent, and maybe i can find some
>>hosting. but i will have to lookup both stuff. untill then. the livecd
>>is only availiable if you contact me, either via irc, or via
>>redeeman@<nospam>metanurb.dk and then we arrange something.
>>
>>i hope you will find it useful
>>
>>-- 
>>Regards			  - Kasper Sandberg
>>postmaster@metanurb.dk	  - PGP-Key is available on request
>>()  ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail 
>>/\                        - against microsoft attachments
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>  
>


-- 
Hans

Re: Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4

[Chris Mason]

On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 11:22, Hans Reiser wrote:

> >and one question needed to be answered:
> >
> > - what would SuSE say if we will publish this CD image.
> >  
> >
> I don't know.  We should ask them.  Are there license restrictions?

I'm asking around.

-chris

Re: Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4 enabled livecd

[Alexander Lyamin]

Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 08:22:02AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
> Alexander Lyamin wrote:
> 
> >Hi guys,
> >basically I created (for my own joy) suse 9.0 proffesional CD1 which with 
> >some minor
> >"console magic" may be used as install CD for system with reiser4.
> >
> >basically its 2.6.5 kernel + v4 latest snapshot + reiser4progs
> >in initrd image (so you can create reiser4 partition and then point
> >suse autoyast to install on it).
> >
> >two things that left to solve:
> >
> >- modularize the kernel (so it become multiplatform, and multihardware).
> >- RPM'ize the kernel and put it on CD (so you can install it right out
> >of autoyast installer).
> >
> >
> >and one question needed to be answered:
> >
> >- what would SuSE say if we will publish this CD image.
> > 
> >
> I don't know.  We should ask them.  Are there license restrictions?
legalese english isnt my strongest point. i think i'll email mr mason@suse.com

-- 
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lex lyamin

Re: Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4

[Alexander Lyamin]

Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:59:45AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 11:22, Hans Reiser wrote:
> I'm asking around.
blindingly fast ;)
thanks for bothering...


-- 
"the liberation loophole will make it clear.."
lex lyamin

Re: Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4 enabled livecd

[Alexander Lyamin]

Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 03:27:30PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
> Hmmm, flx, how about creating links, etc., to this stuff on our web page?

sure. 
will be done today.

btw, gentoo is "geekest" of all linux distros i've seen ;)


-- 
"the liberation loophole will make it clear.."
lex lyamin

Re: Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4

[Hans Reiser]

Chris Mason wrote:

>On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 11:22, Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>and one question needed to be answered:
>>>
>>>- what would SuSE say if we will publish this CD image.
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>I don't know.  We should ask them.  Are there license restrictions?
>>    
>>
>
>I'm asking around.
>
>-chris
>
>
>
>  
>
Thanks Chris.

-- 
Hans

Re: reiser4 enabled livecd

[Hans Reiser]

Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote:

>Hello,
>
>Talking about livecd's, I'd mention that Recovery Is Possible has also
>Reiser4. It's very often updated, kernel 2.6.5 and as I noticed it always
>has the latest from everything and only 26 MB download:
>
>      http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/
>
>I made some "real world" ntfsclone benchmarks what I use very often during
>NTFS development (e.g. test suite). It reads the NTFS allocation bitmap,
>seeks to the used data positions on the source device, seeks to the same
>position in the destination sparse file or block device and copy the data
>thus the clone is immediately mountable.
>
>Resiser4 beat everybody: ext2, ext3, xfs, reiserfs, jfs and even including
>raw cloning between partitions! I've never seen such before for any
>filesystem, it _indeed_ optimizes the disk seeks significantly.
>
>It was about 5% faster than raw cloning and at least 10% faster then the
>next fastest filesytems (ext2 and xfs). I can send full details if one is
>interested.
>  
>
Sure, I would be curious.

>Congratulations!
>
>	Szaka
>
>
>
>  
>
thanks.

-- 
Hans

Re: Support on further bug catching and bugfixing - plus reiser4 enabled livecd

[Boyd Waters]

> btw, gentoo is "geekest" of all linux distros i've seen ;)

Besides IRC, a number of Gentoo "geeks" discuss Reiser4 on the active 
forums at

http://forums.gentoo.org

Search for Resier4

~ boyd

Boyd Waters
National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Socorro, New Mexico