From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Tom Felker <tcfelker@mtco.com>
Cc: Matthias Schniedermeyer <ms@citd.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: why swap at all?
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 16:02:38 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40B5847E.90604@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200405270014.10096.tcfelker@mtco.com>
Tom Felker wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 May 2004 7:37 am, Matthias Schniedermeyer wrote:
>
>
>>program to kernel: "i read ONCE though this file caching not useful".
>
>
> Very true. The system is based on the assumption that just-used pages are
> more useful that older pages, and it slows when this isn't true. We need
> ways to tell the kernel whether the assumption holds.
>
A streaming flag is great, but we usually do OK without it. There
is a "used once" heuristic that often gets it right as far as I
know. Basically, new pages that are only used once put almost zero
pressure on the rest of the memory.
It has a few corner cases where it breaks down. Hopefully they can
be improved...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-27 6:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-26 6:38 why swap at all? Anthony DiSante
2004-05-26 7:31 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 7:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-05-26 8:30 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 8:44 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 9:34 ` John Bradford
2004-05-26 9:48 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 10:10 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2004-05-26 10:33 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 10:58 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2004-05-26 11:19 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 12:27 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2004-05-27 5:38 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 12:37 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2004-05-26 13:06 ` Gianni Tedesco
2004-05-26 13:41 ` Matt H.
2004-05-26 13:55 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-27 5:14 ` Tom Felker
2004-05-27 6:02 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-05-27 7:04 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-05-27 7:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-05-26 10:45 ` Martin Olsson
2004-05-26 11:25 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 16:33 ` David Schwartz
2004-05-26 16:58 ` John Bradford
2004-05-26 23:32 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-05-27 8:05 ` John Bradford
2004-05-26 10:46 ` John Bradford
2004-05-26 11:46 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 11:39 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 9:42 ` Anthony DiSante
2004-05-26 9:58 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 20:11 ` Wakko Warner
2004-05-27 5:59 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-27 14:34 ` Wakko Warner
2004-05-26 10:40 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 13:15 ` Helge Hafting
2004-05-26 9:09 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-05-26 11:38 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 12:12 ` Paulo Marques
2004-05-26 12:14 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 12:40 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-05-26 10:41 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-05-26 12:07 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 12:06 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2004-05-26 12:19 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-05-26 13:48 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 12:33 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-05-26 13:25 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 12:30 ` Rik van Riel
2004-05-26 10:44 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-05-26 11:49 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 12:19 ` Rik van Riel
2004-05-26 12:55 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 8:27 ` Roger Luethi
2004-05-26 9:23 ` John Bradford
2004-05-26 9:30 ` Roger Luethi
2004-05-26 10:35 ` John Bradford
2004-05-26 10:37 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 10:48 ` John Bradford
2004-05-26 13:01 ` Helge Hafting
2004-05-26 8:32 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-05-26 9:00 ` Helge Hafting
2004-05-26 9:40 ` John Bradford
2004-05-26 13:06 ` Helge Hafting
2004-06-01 7:23 ` swappiness ignored Anthony DiSante
2004-06-01 9:36 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2004-06-01 19:38 ` Anthony DiSante
2004-06-01 19:42 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2004-06-02 19:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-02 23:33 ` Con Kolivas
2004-05-26 9:06 ` why swap at all? John Bradford
2004-05-26 12:31 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 10:02 ` Raphael Jacquot
2004-05-26 13:00 ` Satoshi Oshima
2004-05-26 13:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-26 11:04 Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 11:57 Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 12:19 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 12:24 Nick Piggin
2004-05-26 13:03 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-05-26 13:27 ` Helge Hafting
2004-05-26 12:34 Piszcz, Justin Michael
2004-05-27 5:37 Nick Piggin
2004-05-27 17:27 ` Buddy Lumpkin
[not found] <fa.fegqf9v.kmidof@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.bqpvcrs.u648jq@ifi.uio.no>
2004-05-27 11:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-05-28 21:37 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-05-28 22:28 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-05-29 7:31 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-05-31 10:49 ` jlnance
2004-06-01 11:57 ` Lenar Lõhmus
2004-06-01 12:27 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-06-01 16:49 ` jlnance
2004-06-02 18:38 ` John Hendrikx
2004-06-01 12:21 ` David B. Stevens
2004-05-27 12:31 Piszcz, Justin Michael
2004-05-27 12:41 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-05-27 15:59 ` John Bradford
2004-05-27 16:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-03 13:38 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-31 19:34 Michael Brennan
2004-05-31 20:29 ` John Bradford
2004-05-31 22:47 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-31 23:30 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-06-01 18:36 ` FabF
2004-06-01 19:02 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-01 19:53 ` FabF
2004-06-01 20:00 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-01 20:14 ` FabF
2004-06-01 20:22 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-01 21:15 ` FabF
2004-06-01 21:40 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-03 13:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-04 0:01 ` Nick Piggin
2004-06-01 23:17 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-06-02 5:38 ` FabF
2004-06-02 11:42 ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-02 12:22 ` John Bradford
2004-06-02 12:22 ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-02 17:06 ` FabF
2004-06-03 14:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-04 7:23 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-06-04 17:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-15 14:55 ` Charles Shannon Hendrix
2004-06-04 9:11 ` Catalin BOIE
2004-06-04 17:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-06 14:39 ` Rik van Riel
2004-06-02 17:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-02 18:30 ` FabF
2004-06-02 23:54 ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-03 16:16 ` FabF
2004-06-03 23:56 ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-04 0:16 ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-03 14:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-03 14:27 ` Con Kolivas
2004-06-02 17:52 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-02 3:50 ` Tim Connors
2004-06-02 17:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-01 8:34 ` John Bradford
2004-06-01 8:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-01 8:50 ` John Bradford
2004-06-01 8:54 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-01 9:10 ` John Bradford
2004-06-08 1:18 ` Tim Connors
2004-06-08 5:29 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-06-01 9:38 ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-06-01 10:13 ` Tim Connors
2004-06-01 10:24 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-06-01 11:19 ` Tim Connors
[not found] <fa.amhil9e.o5kt1u@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.kfm8lru.1l2mdp4@ifi.uio.no>
2004-06-08 15:12 ` Ray Bryant
2004-06-08 15:12 ` Ray Bryant
2004-06-08 15:15 ` Ray Bryant
2004-06-08 15:15 ` Ray Bryant
2004-06-09 19:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-09 19:24 ` Bill Davidsen
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