SIOCGMIIPHY and SIOCGIFCONF

SIOCGMIIPHY and SIOCGIFCONF

[Lejanson C. Go]

Good day,

I am a newbie in this list. I am bit confused in this 2 flags.
I am planning to make a network program which determines if the
interface is still up, down or unknown in real time.
Which of the 2 should I used? Which is more advisable?

Thanks a lot.

Lejanson

-- 
Revenge is best served when cold.

Re: SIOCGMIIPHY and SIOCGIFCONF

[Glynn Clements]

Lejanson C. Go wrote:

> I am a newbie in this list. I am bit confused in this 2 flags.
> I am planning to make a network program which determines if the
> interface is still up, down or unknown in real time.
> Which of the 2 should I used? Which is more advisable?

SIOCGIFCONF returns the "logical" status of the interface. SIOCGMIIPHY
returns the contents of MII registers directly from the hardware.

SIOCGIFCONF will tell you if the interface is enabled, but it won't
tell you e.g. whether the ethernet cable is plugged in. OTOH,
SIOCGIFCONF works on all network interfaces, while SIOCGMIIPHY only
works on ethernet interfaces, and only on those which support the MII
interface.

-- 
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net>

Re: SIOCGMIIPHY and SIOCGIFCONF

[Lejanson C. Go]

Does most ethernet interface support MII interface? I also
tried SIOCGIFCONF but even if the cable is unplugged it will
still report LINK UP while SIOCGMIIPHY returns LINK DOWN when
the cable is unplugged.

How will I be able to override the SIOCGIFCONF so I can support
all network interfaces? I already tried using SIOCGMIIPHY and its
okay. But I am looking for ways to override the SIOCGIFCONF
behavior.

Thanks alot.


Glynn Clements wrote:
> Lejanson C. Go wrote:
> 
> 
>>I am a newbie in this list. I am bit confused in this 2 flags.
>>I am planning to make a network program which determines if the
>>interface is still up, down or unknown in real time.
>>Which of the 2 should I used? Which is more advisable?
> 
> 
> SIOCGIFCONF returns the "logical" status of the interface. SIOCGMIIPHY
> returns the contents of MII registers directly from the hardware.
> 
> SIOCGIFCONF will tell you if the interface is enabled, but it won't
> tell you e.g. whether the ethernet cable is plugged in. OTOH,
> SIOCGIFCONF works on all network interfaces, while SIOCGMIIPHY only
> works on ethernet interfaces, and only on those which support the MII
> interface.
> 

-- 
Revenge is best served when cold.

Re: SIOCGMIIPHY and SIOCGIFCONF

[John Richard Moser]

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SIOCGIFCONF tells you if the interface is administratively down.
SIOMIIPHY tells you if the link is active.

Thus, you have three interesting states, similar to those on a CISCO router:

"Interface is administratively down."
The interface is disabled, i.e. via ifconfig.

"Interface is up, link is down."
The interface is enabled, i.e. via ifconfig; the link is physically
down, i.e. no cable.

"Interface is up, link is up."
The interface is enabled, and the link is physically up and usable.
Pinging accross this to another up/up interface attached to the opposite
end of the cable should be possible.

For cards without an MII controller, the best you can get is:
"Interface is up, link state unknown."

Lejanson C. Go wrote:
|
| Does most ethernet interface support MII interface? I also
| tried SIOCGIFCONF but even if the cable is unplugged it will
| still report LINK UP while SIOCGMIIPHY returns LINK DOWN when
| the cable is unplugged.
|
| How will I be able to override the SIOCGIFCONF so I can support
| all network interfaces? I already tried using SIOCGMIIPHY and its
| okay. But I am looking for ways to override the SIOCGIFCONF
| behavior.
|
| Thanks alot.
|
|
| Glynn Clements wrote:
|
|> Lejanson C. Go wrote:
|>
|>
|>> I am a newbie in this list. I am bit confused in this 2 flags.
|>> I am planning to make a network program which determines if the
|>> interface is still up, down or unknown in real time.
|>> Which of the 2 should I used? Which is more advisable?
|>
|>
|>
|> SIOCGIFCONF returns the "logical" status of the interface. SIOCGMIIPHY
|> returns the contents of MII registers directly from the hardware.
|>
|> SIOCGIFCONF will tell you if the interface is enabled, but it won't
|> tell you e.g. whether the ethernet cable is plugged in. OTOH,
|> SIOCGIFCONF works on all network interfaces, while SIOCGMIIPHY only
|> works on ethernet interfaces, and only on those which support the MII
|> interface.
|>
|
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