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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	nigelenki@comcast.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ck@vds.kolivas.org
Subject: Re: Autoregulate swappiness & inactivation
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:12:47 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40ED01FF.6010206@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cone.1089273829.122131.4554.502@pc.kolivas.org>

Con Kolivas wrote:
> Nick Piggin writes:
> 

>> OK that's easy then. The OOM algorithm can be changed if it is
>> OOMing too easily.
> 
> 
> I didn't say it was easy, just harder with; but whatever - I can get rid 
> of it.
> 

Please.

>>>> Secondly, can you please not mess with the exported sysctl. If you
>>>> think your "autoswappiness" calculation is better than the current
>>>> swappiness one, just completely replace it. Bonus points if you can
>>>> retain the swappiness knob in some capacity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree and would like them all removed, but people just love to 
>>> leave the knobs in place. While I dont think the knobs should still 
>>> be there either, I'm not reluctant to leave something that innocuous 
>>> if the users want them.
>>>
>>
>> Well, get rid of the auto-tuning thing to start with, and merge
>> it into the swappiness calculation..
>>
>> Regarding all these knobs, the main thing you want to avoid is
>> having loads of them because you can't find acceptable defaults.
>> I think "swappiness" is in the category of a good sysctl: it is
>> simple, meaningful to the admin, works, etc.
>>
>> It has proven somewhat useful in testing ("set it to blah and see
>> if it still happens"). Or for people who know what they are doing.
> 
> 
> Umm I think we're agreeing, no? I'm trying to leave the swappiness knob 
> in for those who (think?) they know what they're doing. Somehow it needs 
> to be turned to "manual" again.
> 

No. Fold your all "autoswappiness" stuff directly into the
reclaim_mapped calculation that was previously keyed off swappiness.
Don't have it modify vm_swappiness at all: work directly on
reclaim_mapped.

Then, you should be able to retain the user's vm_swappiness input
into the system as well. If you can't figure out a good place to
put this in, don't worry about it to start with.


  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-08  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-07 15:16 2.6.7-ck5 Con Kolivas
2004-07-07 15:39 ` 2.6.7-ck5 John Richard Moser
2004-07-07 15:47   ` 2.6.7-ck5 Con Kolivas
2004-07-07 15:53     ` 2.6.7-ck5 Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-07-07 16:11       ` 2.6.7-ck5 P
2004-07-07 17:10         ` 2.6.7-ck5 Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-07-07 16:17       ` 2.6.7-ck5 Redeeman
2004-07-08  4:38     ` 2.6.7-ck5 Andrew Morton
2004-07-08  6:40       ` [PATCH] Autoregulate swappiness & inactivation Con Kolivas
2004-07-08  6:45         ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08  7:06         ` [PATCH] " Nick Piggin
2004-07-08  7:12           ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08  7:31             ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-08  8:03               ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08  8:12                 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-07-08 17:06                   ` John Richard Moser
2004-07-08 17:14                   ` [ck] " Mikhail Ramendik
2004-07-08 17:10           ` [ck] Re: [PATCH] " Mikhail Ramendik
2004-07-09  1:03             ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-08  7:10         ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-08  7:58           ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08  8:08             ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-08  8:27               ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08 10:54                 ` FabF
2004-07-09  1:05                   ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-09  9:48                     ` FabF
2004-07-09 10:43                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-09 11:14                         ` FabF
2004-07-09 11:24                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-10  9:44                             ` FabF
     [not found]                               ` <40EFC076.9050504@yahoo.com.au>
2004-07-10 10:57                                 ` rss recovery FabF
2004-07-10 12:03                                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-13 13:12                                     ` FabF
2004-07-08 16:26                 ` Autoregulate swappiness & inactivation Timothy Miller
2004-07-08 17:12                   ` John Richard Moser
2004-07-08 18:37                     ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-08 21:40                       ` John Richard Moser
2004-07-09  7:44                     ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-07-08 16:24               ` [PATCH] Autotune swappiness Con Kolivas
2004-07-08 16:44                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-09  0:39                   ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-09  1:19                     ` [ck] " Kerin Millar
2004-07-09 14:23                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-09 14:26                       ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-08 15:57       ` [ck] Re: 2.6.7-ck5 GSehp
2004-07-07 16:45 ` 2.6.7-ck5 John Richard Moser
2004-07-07 17:10   ` 2.6.7-ck5 Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-07-07 22:26 ` 2.6.7-ck5 Wes Janzen
2004-07-07 22:53   ` 2.6.7-ck5 Con Kolivas
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2000-01-01 17:31 Autoregulate swappiness & inactivation deepfire

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