From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
Cc: Sonny Rao <sonny@burdell.org>, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Odd Block allocation behavior on Reiser3
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:42:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4119253B.1030807@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1092163813.10651.372.camel@watt.suse.com>
Chris Mason wrote:
>On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 14:25, Chris Mason wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 13:52, Hans Reiser wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sonny Rao wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 12:16:39AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Interesting.What happens without overwrite, that is, if you write more
>>>>>files without deleting the old ones?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Below I made 24 one gigabyte files in sequence
>>>>All of them are similarly fragmented:
>>>>data # filefrag *
>>>>datafile0: 268 extents found
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>this could explain some reiser3 performance problems. This is what
>>>happens when I spend all my time chasing funding and don't spend it
>>>reviewing code and benchmarks, sigh.
>>>
>>>Thanks for spotting this. I would be curious if this is occuring near
>>>the transition between unformatted nodes and their parents, or something
>>>else.
>>>
>>>
>>There have been a few threads on this on reiserfs-list
>>
>>singer:/data # dd if=/dev/zero of=foo bs=1MB count=1000
>>1000+0 records in
>>1000+0 records out
>>singer:/data # filefrag foo
>>foo: 1 extent found
>>
>>The new allocator really should be doing a better job here.
>>
>>
>
>Hmpf, that's what I get for expecting filefrag to work properly on
>amd64. The actual number of extents is 199, which is still better then
>268. Using fibmap, the fragmentation percentage is still the same as
>ext3 (99.99% unfragmented) meaning the length between the extents is
>quite small.
>
>If you mount with:
>
>mount -o alloc=skip_busy:oid_groups
>
>You get 8 extents on a 1GB file.
>
>This is because the oid grouping tries much harder to isolate the file
>data from data from other files and metadata. It is far from optimal
>for normal usage, but for huge files it works nicely.
>
>-chris
>
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>
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>
For an empty filesystem there should be no fragmentation at all for big
dds one after another, except at bitmap block boundaries. Any other
result indicates flawed code. Remember, a hint of flawed code often
leads to more than a trivial flaw when fully understood.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-10 19:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-09 20:19 Odd Block allocation behavior on Reiser3 Sonny Rao
2004-08-09 20:30 ` Chris Mason
2004-08-09 22:04 ` Sonny Rao
2004-08-10 7:16 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-10 15:45 ` Sonny Rao
2004-08-10 17:52 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-10 18:25 ` Chris Mason
2004-08-10 18:50 ` Chris Mason
2004-08-10 19:42 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2004-08-10 20:29 ` Chris Mason
2004-08-10 21:47 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-10 23:12 ` Sonny Rao
2004-08-11 1:31 ` Jeff Mahoney
2004-08-10 19:40 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-10 23:00 ` Sonny Rao
2004-08-10 20:12 ` Why larger extent counts aren't necessarily bad (was Re: Odd Block allocation behavior on Reiser3) Jeff Mahoney
2004-09-09 17:04 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-10 12:53 ` Odd Block allocation behavior on Reiser3 Chris Mason
2004-08-10 16:12 ` Sonny Rao
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