From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Andrew Theurer <habanero@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ricklind@us.ibm.com,
mbligh@aracnet.com, mingo@elte.hu, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.8-rc2-mm2 performance improvements (scheduler?)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 06:57:31 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <411936BB.9070107@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200408101005.15384.habanero@us.ibm.com>
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Andrew Theurer wrote:
>>>Also, one big change apparent to me, the elimination of
>>>TIMESLICE_GRANULARITY.
>>
>>Ah well I tuned the timeslice granularity and I can tell you it isn't quite
>>what most people think. The granularity when you get to greater than 4 cpus
>>is effectively _disabled_. So in fact, the timeslices are shorter in
>>staircase (in normal interactive=1, compute=0 mode which is how martin
>>would have tested it), not longer. But this is not the reason either since
>>in "compute" mode they are ten times longer and this also improves
>>throughput further.
>
>
> Interesting, I forgot about the "* nr_cpus" that was in the granularity
> calculation. That does make me wonder, maybe the timeslices you are
> calculating could have something similar, but more appropriate.
>
> Since the number of runnable tasks on a cpu should play a part in latency (the
> more tasks, potentially the longer the latency), I wonder if the timeslice
> would benefit from a modifier like " / task_cpu(p)->nr_running ". With this
> the base timeslice could be quite a bit larger to start for better cache
> warmth, and as we add more tasks to that cpu, the timeslices get smaller, so
> an acceptable latency is preserved.
I had a problem with fairness once I made the timeslices too long since
that also determines priority demotion in the staircase design. That's
why I have the "compute" mode as quite a separate entity because the
longer timeslices on their own weren't of any special benefit (in my up
to 8x testing but could be elsewhere) unless I added the delayed
preemption which is probably where the main extra cache warmth comes
from in "compute" design. Of course this comes at a cost which is higher
latencies... because normal priority preemption is delayed.
>>>Do you have cswitch data? I would not be surprised if it's a lot higher
>>>on -no-staircase, and cache is thrashed a lot more. This may be
>>>something you can pull out of the -no-staircase kernel quite easily.
>>
>>Well from what I got on 8x the optimal load (-j x4cpus) and maximal load
>>(-j) on kernbench gives surprisingly similar context switch rates. It's
>>only when I enable compute mode that the context switches drop compared to
>>default staircase mode and mainline. You'd have to ask Martin and Rick
>>about what they got.
>
>
> OK, thanks!
>
> -Andrew Theurer
Cheers,
Con
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200408092240.05287.habanero@us.ibm.com>
2004-08-10 4:08 ` 2.6.8-rc2-mm2 performance improvements (scheduler?) Andrew Theurer
2004-08-10 4:37 ` Con Kolivas
2004-08-10 15:05 ` Andrew Theurer
2004-08-10 20:57 ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2004-08-10 7:40 ` Rick Lindsley
2004-08-10 15:19 ` Andrew Theurer
2004-08-04 15:10 Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-04 15:12 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-04 19:24 ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-04 19:34 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-04 19:50 ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-04 20:07 ` Rick Lindsley
2004-08-04 20:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-04 20:36 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-04 21:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-08-04 23:34 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-04 23:44 ` Peter Williams
2004-08-04 23:59 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-05 5:20 ` Rick Lindsley
2004-08-05 10:45 ` Ingo Molnar
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