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From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Tim Schmielau <tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de>
Cc: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Petri Kaukasoina <kaukasoi@elektroni.ee.tut.fi>,
	albert@users.sourceforge.net, hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	voland@dmz.com.pl, nicolas.george@ens.fr,
	david+powerix@blue-labs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: boot time, process start time, and NOW time
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:27:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4134D11B.7050800@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0408310757430.6523@gockel.physik3.uni-rostock.de>

Tim Schmielau wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, john stultz wrote:
> 
> 
>>On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 16:00, Tim Schmielau wrote:
>>
>>>George, please excuse my lack of understanding. What again where the
>>>precise reasons to have an ntp-corrected uptime?
>>
>>Ah, here's the thread with the first mention of it that I could find.
>>
>>http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0306.1/1471.html

As I recall the problem was that jiffies since boot was being converted to get 
uptime base on 1/HZ = 1 jiffie.  Since it is really not quite that, there was an 
error.  Using clock_monotonic seemed like the right answer as it eliminated the 
error AND made the result consistant with get_clock(CLOCK_MONOTONIC,..).

The alternate answer is, of course, to directly convert the elapsed jiffies. 
The main problem with this is that this can be a BIG number and, therefor, the 
math needs to be carefully.  And, of course, it is inconsistant with 
get_clock(), but that is a new interface...

George
> 
> 
> Ah, it seems George indeed did the patch because of these problems:
> 
>   http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0306.1/1641.html
> 
> However, the actual reason were just missing wall_to_monotonic 
> initializations:
> 
>   http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0306.2/1330.html
> 
> This was fixed in mainline:
> 
>   http://linus.bkbits.net:8080/linux-2.5/cset%403f0e60dcpIosK3b5_uJ-aD9Mare17w
> 
> Tim
> 

-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
High-res-timers:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml


  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-31 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-22 23:57 boot time, process start time, and NOW time Albert Cahalan
2004-06-28 17:56 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2004-08-16 19:41   ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-16 21:49     ` john stultz
2004-08-16 23:08     ` Tim Schmielau
2004-08-16 23:56       ` Tim Schmielau
2004-08-17  0:21       ` john stultz
2004-08-17  0:37         ` George Anzinger
2004-08-17  0:49           ` john stultz
2004-08-17  0:31       ` George Anzinger
2004-08-16 22:32         ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-17  1:26           ` George Anzinger
2004-08-16 23:08             ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-17  1:54               ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-08-17  2:03                 ` Lee Revell
2004-08-17 20:52                 ` George Anzinger
2004-08-17  6:56         ` Tim Schmielau
2004-08-17 20:07           ` john stultz
2004-08-17 20:13             ` [RFC] New timeofday implementation proposal john stultz
2004-08-17 20:58               ` [RFC] New timeofday code john stultz
2004-09-01 23:16               ` [RFC] New timeofday implementation proposal Christoph Lameter
2004-08-16 23:24     ` boot time, process start time, and NOW time Albert Cahalan
2004-08-17 19:00       ` john stultz
2004-08-17 17:41         ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-17 20:58           ` john stultz
2004-08-17 20:25     ` [PATCH] " Tim Schmielau
2004-08-17 22:24       ` George Anzinger
2004-08-17 22:37         ` john stultz
2004-08-17 23:07           ` Tim Schmielau
2004-08-18  0:11             ` john stultz
2004-08-17 22:19               ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-18  1:09                 ` john stultz
2004-08-17 22:45                   ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-18  7:42                   ` Tim Schmielau
2004-08-19 19:15                     ` Petri Kaukasoina
2004-08-26 11:04                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-26 12:07                         ` Tim Schmielau
2004-08-30 23:00                           ` Tim Schmielau
2004-08-30 23:38                             ` john stultz
2004-08-31  0:37                               ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-31  0:49                                 ` Tim Schmielau
2004-08-31  0:45                               ` Tim Schmielau
2004-08-31  1:23                                 ` john stultz
2004-08-31  1:34                             ` john stultz
2004-08-31  6:07                               ` Tim Schmielau
2004-08-31 19:27                                 ` George Anzinger [this message]
2004-08-31 20:56                                   ` john stultz
2004-08-31 21:10                                     ` David Ford
2004-09-02 20:39                                     ` George Anzinger
2004-09-01 19:14                                 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2004-09-02 20:58                                   ` George Anzinger
2004-09-02 21:38                                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2004-09-03  0:59                                       ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03  3:35                                         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2004-09-03  7:31                                           ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03  7:51                                             ` Tim Schmielau
2004-09-03  7:15                                       ` Tim Schmielau

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