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From: Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
To: schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de, electronerd@monolith3d.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, der.eremit@email.de,
	christer@weinigel.se, axboe@suse.de
Subject: Re: (was: Re: PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices)
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 17:40:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41373EFE.nailBAN11FRB9@burner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41372501.8050600@monolith3d.com>

John Myers <electronerd@monolith3d.com> wrote:

> | cdrecord neither does drop the privileges by accident nor by malice.
>
> I wasn't trying to insult cdrecord, or even suggest it might have the
> inkling of a possibility of this type of issue, and I am sorry if I made
> it sound that way. I was merely trying to illustrate a use of my
> proposal. I admit, I should have invented a name, like
> cd-burning-fire-toaster-program to illustrate the separation of my
> example from any actual existing implementation

It was not you, but other people did write that cdrecord is broken
although only the kernel did change in an incompatible way.

> | On a cleanly designed OS with fine grained permissions, a program like
> cdrecord
> | does not need to worry about the permissions as it gets exactly the
> needed
> | permissions granted by the execution environment.
> |
> | Jörg
> |
>
> Which is exactly what I proposed...
>
>
> So... could anyone comment on my proposal, rather than just flame my
> examples?

I did not flame your examples, but if you thought of the same thigs, you may 
have been not obvious enough with your explanation.

On Solaris, this is done by /usr/bin/pfexec (the only suid root binary) that 
calls /usr/bin/ppriv -e which executes a process with the privilleges that are 
in the privilleges database.

Jörg

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-02 15:42 UTC|newest]

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2004-08-21 15:01                   ` PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-21 15:57                     ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-21 21:42                       ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-22 11:56                       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 12:14                         ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 12:52                           ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-22 13:05                             ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 16:38                               ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-22 15:11                           ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-22 18:09                             ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-22 13:13                         ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-22 16:00                           ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 16:32                             ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 17:18                               ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 19:22                                 ` DTrace-like analysis possible with future Linux kernels? Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 20:27                               ` PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-08-22 21:29                               ` Julien Oster
2004-08-23 11:40                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-23 13:15                                   ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-23 18:16                               ` Kai Makisara
2004-08-24 10:22                                 ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-24 15:34                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 16:33                             ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 16:19                               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 17:31                                 ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 20:47                                   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 22:17                                     ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-23 12:22                                 ` Adam Sampson
2004-08-22 19:26                             ` Tonnerre
2004-08-22 20:14                               ` DTrace-like analysis possible with future Linux kernels? Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 20:33                                 ` Tonnerre
2004-08-22 20:38                                   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 20:43                                   ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 21:37                                     ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-23 11:44                                       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-23 17:40                                 ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-23 20:25                               ` PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices Bill Davidsen
2004-08-23 21:01                                 ` Doug Maxey
2004-08-25 18:29                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-24  2:22                                 ` Nuno Silva
2004-08-31 22:22                             ` (was: Re: PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices) John Myers
2004-09-02  9:44                               ` Joerg Schilling
2004-09-02 13:49                                 ` John Myers
2004-09-02 15:40                                   ` Joerg Schilling [this message]
2004-08-22 21:27                           ` PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices Julien Oster
2004-08-07 12:51 Linux Kernel bug report (includes fix) Joerg Schilling
2004-08-07 13:26 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-07 19:32   ` Bernd Schubert
2004-08-08  1:18 ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-08  5:22   ` Alexander E. Patrakov

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