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* RE: Can anyone tell me how to do this?
@ 2004-09-22 17:12 Daniel Chemko
  2004-09-23 13:01 ` Eric Ellis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Chemko @ 2004-09-22 17:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN, netfilter

Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN wrote:
> firewalls and virii ???
> 
> firewalls do not stop virus...
> 
> virus detection and removal/mitigation software does this chore
> if bundled with the firewall tool.
> 
> lets not lead the newbs astray...

Well said... Sometimes I don't think about what I'm typing until its
been sent. I end up sounding like a so many PHB's. 

Step 1: Loose nerd status
Step 2: Become PHB
Step 3: PROFIT!!


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* RE: Can anyone tell me how to do this?
@ 2004-09-22 17:04 Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN @ 2004-09-22 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Daniel Chemko', Jason Opperisano, netfilter

firewalls and virii ???

firewalls do not stop virus...

virus detection and removal/mitigation software does this chore
if bundled with the firewall tool.

lets not lead the newbs astray...

~piranha


-----Original Message-----
From: netfilter-bounces@lists.netfilter.org
[mailto:netfilter-bounces@lists.netfilter.org]On Behalf Of Daniel Chemko
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 9:59 AM
To: Jason Opperisano; netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
Subject: RE: Can anyone tell me how to do this?



> learning more about iptables is a nice goal to have.  sometimes i wish
> it was just as glamorous for people to want to learn more about
> routing and the OSI model, before becoming super l33t firewall
> gurus...but i digress...

Problem is: Neither of these topics can easily be approached by network
newbs without a lot of setup. There aren't many visiting this list with
routing more complicated than ip route add x via y

As for OSI, any casual admin wouldn't find much real world value in it.
I'd say OSI influences programmers more than admins. Experienced admins
do need to understand programming and OSI's a good practical example of
basic layered approaches, etc.. Plus, since others use OSI as a mindset
when developing, its good to know where they get their ideas from.

Firewalls are an inevitability these days. You either: Don't use a
firewall and get viruses, or you do use a firewall and you're forced to
fiddle with it when one of your programs doesn't work. See, your forced
to learn it if you like networking and administration or not. 



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* RE: Can anyone tell me how to do this?
@ 2004-09-22 16:59 Daniel Chemko
  2004-09-22 17:29 ` Alistair Tonner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Chemko @ 2004-09-22 16:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jason Opperisano, netfilter


> learning more about iptables is a nice goal to have.  sometimes i wish
> it was just as glamorous for people to want to learn more about
> routing and the OSI model, before becoming super l33t firewall
> gurus...but i digress...

Problem is: Neither of these topics can easily be approached by network
newbs without a lot of setup. There aren't many visiting this list with
routing more complicated than ip route add x via y

As for OSI, any casual admin wouldn't find much real world value in it.
I'd say OSI influences programmers more than admins. Experienced admins
do need to understand programming and OSI's a good practical example of
basic layered approaches, etc.. Plus, since others use OSI as a mindset
when developing, its good to know where they get their ideas from.

Firewalls are an inevitability these days. You either: Don't use a
firewall and get viruses, or you do use a firewall and you're forced to
fiddle with it when one of your programs doesn't work. See, your forced
to learn it if you like networking and administration or not. 



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* Can anyone tell me how to do this?
@ 2004-09-22 14:09 Dominic Iadicicco
  2004-09-22 14:25 ` Eric Leblond
  2004-09-22 14:29 ` Jason Opperisano
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread
From: Dominic Iadicicco @ 2004-09-22 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter

Hello all,

Can anyone tell me how to do this so that I may ask
some questions afterword's in hopes to learn a little
more about iptables.

This is what I would like to try. I think this would
get me to the next level.

My devil-Box is at 172.16.12.130 and I want all ssh
request to this .130 address, to go to address
172.16.12.212.   How do I do this?  All machines are
on the 172.16.12.x subnet for right now.



Thanks in advance


Dominic


		
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2004-09-22 17:12 Can anyone tell me how to do this? Daniel Chemko
2004-09-23 13:01 ` Eric Ellis
2004-09-23 13:22   ` Dominic Iadicicco
2004-09-23 14:55     ` Jason Opperisano
2004-09-23 15:14       ` Dominic Iadicicco
2004-09-23 16:15         ` Jason Opperisano
2004-09-23 16:44           ` Samuel Díaz García (ArcosCom)
2004-09-23 17:28             ` Dominic Iadicicco
2004-09-23 17:48               ` Jason Opperisano
2004-09-23 18:26                 ` Dominic Iadicicco
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2004-09-23 18:29               ` Aleksandar Milivojevic
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2004-09-22 16:59 Daniel Chemko
2004-09-22 17:29 ` Alistair Tonner
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2004-09-22 14:25 ` Eric Leblond
2004-09-22 14:45   ` Dominic Iadicicco
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