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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: colpatch@us.ibm.com
Cc: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>, "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
	LSE Tech <lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	simon.derr@bull.net, frankeh@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] scheduler: Dynamic sched_domains
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:13:56 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4164A664.9040005@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1097110266.4907.187.camel@arrakis>

Matthew Dobson wrote:
> This code is in no way complete.  But since I brought it up in the
> "cpusets - big numa cpu and memory placement" thread, I figure the code
> needs to be posted.
> 
> The basic idea is as follows:
> 
> 1) Rip out sched_groups and move them into the sched_domains.
> 2) Add some reference counting, and eventually locking, to
> sched_domains.
> 3) Rewrite & simplify the way sched_domains are built and linked into a
> cohesive tree.
> 

OK. I'm not sure that I like the direction, but... (I haven't looked
too closely at it).

> This should allow us to support hotplug more easily, simply removing the
> domain belonging to the going-away CPU, rather than throwing away the
> whole domain tree and rebuilding from scratch.

Although what we have in -mm now should support CPU hotplug just fine.
The hotplug guys really seem not to care how disruptive a hotplug
operation is.

>  This should also allow
> us to support multiple, independent (ie: no shared root) domain trees
> which will facilitate isolated CPU groups and exclusive domains.  I also

Hmm, what was my word for them... yeah, disjoint. We can do that now,
see isolcpus= for a subset of the functionality you want (doing larger
exclusive sets would probably just require we run the setup code once
for each exclusive set we want to build).

> hope this will allow us to leverage the existing topology infrastructure
> to build domains that closely resemble the physical structure of the
> machine automagically, thus making supporting interesting NUMA machines
> and SMT machines easier.
> 
> This patch is just a snapshot in the middle of development, so there are
> certainly some uglies & bugs that will get fixed.  That said, any
> comments about the general design are strongly encouraged.  Heck, any
> feedback at all is welcome! :) 
> 
> Patch against 2.6.9-rc3-mm2.

This is what I did in my first (that nobody ever saw) implementation of
sched domains. Ie. no sched_groups, just use sched_domains as the balancing
object... I'm not sure this works too well.

For example, your bottom level domain is going to basically be a redundant,
single CPU on most topologies, isn't it?

Also, how will you do overlapping domains that SGI want to do (see
arch/ia64/kernel/domain.c in -mm kernels)?

node2 wants to balance between node0, node1, itself, node3, node4.
node4 wants to balance between node2, node3, itself, node5, node6.
etc.

I think your lists will get tangled, no?

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-07  2:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-07  0:51 [RFC PATCH] scheduler: Dynamic sched_domains Matthew Dobson
2004-10-07  2:13 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2004-10-07 17:01   ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-08  5:55     ` [Lse-tech] " Takayoshi Kochi
2004-10-08  6:08       ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-08 16:43         ` Jesse Barnes
2004-10-07 21:58   ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-08  0:22     ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-07 22:20   ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-07  4:12 ` [ckrm-tech] " Marc E. Fiuczynski
2004-10-07  5:35   ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-07 22:06   ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-07  9:32 ` Paul Jackson
2004-10-08 10:14 ` [Lse-tech] " Erich Focht
2004-10-08 10:40   ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-08 15:50     ` [ckrm-tech] " Hubertus Franke
2004-10-08 22:48       ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-08 18:54     ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-08 21:56       ` Peter Williams
2004-10-08 22:52         ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-08 23:13       ` Erich Focht
2004-10-08 23:50         ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-10 12:25           ` Erich Focht
2004-10-08 22:51     ` Erich Focht
2004-10-09  1:05       ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-10 12:45         ` Erich Focht
2004-10-12 22:45           ` Matthew Dobson
2004-10-08 18:45   ` Matthew Dobson
2005-04-18 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH] Dynamic sched domains aka Isolated cpusets Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-18 23:44   ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-19  8:00     ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-19  5:54   ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19  6:19     ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-19  6:59       ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19  7:09         ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-19  7:25           ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19  7:28           ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19  7:19       ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19  7:57         ` Nick Piggin
2005-04-19 20:34           ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-23 23:26             ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-26  0:52               ` Matthew Dobson
2005-04-26  0:59                 ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19  9:52       ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-19 15:26         ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-20  7:37           ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-19 20:42         ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19  8:12     ` Simon Derr
2005-04-19 16:19       ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-19  9:34     ` [Lse-tech] " Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-19 17:23       ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-20  7:16         ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-20 19:09           ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-21 16:27             ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-22 21:26               ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-23  7:24                 ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-23 22:30               ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-25 11:53                 ` Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-25 14:38                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-21 17:31   ` [RFC PATCH] Dynamic sched domains aka Isolated cpusets (v0.2) Dinakar Guniguntala
2005-04-22 18:50     ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-22 21:37       ` Paul Jackson
2005-04-23  3:11     ` Paul Jackson

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