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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: The naming wars continue...
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:32:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <417EC260.1010401@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0410251458080.427@ppc970.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> 
>>I do agree that the pre and rc names gave a strong hint that (-pre) new 
>>features would be considered or (-rc) it's worth doing more serious 
>>testing.
> 
> 
> Well, I actually do try to _explain_ in the kernel mailing list 
> annoucements what it going on.
> 
> One of the reasons I don't like "-rcX" vs "-preX" is that they are so 
> meaningless. In contrast, when I actually do the write-up on a patch, I 
> tend to explain what I expect to have changed, and if I feel we're getting 
> ready for a release, I'll say something like
> 
> 	..
> 
> 	Ok,
> 	 trying to make ready for the real 2.6.9 in a week or so, so please give
> 	this a beating, and if you have pending patches, please hold on to them
> 	for a bit longer, until after the 2.6.9 release. It would be good to have
> 	a 2.6.9 that doesn't need a dot-release immediately ;)
> 
> 	....
> 
> which is a hell of a lot more descriptive, in my opinion.
> 
> Which is just another reason why the name itself is not that meaningful. 
> It can never carry the kind of information that people seem to _expect_ it 
> to carry. 

I wasn't going to reply to this since it's your call and I've had my 
say, but since several others have, let me throw out one more idea on 
the off chance you like it:

Stop doing the pre's on the next version! After 2.6.10 comes 2.6.10.1 
etc, which everyone can see are incremental changes to 2.6.10, and when 
you really mean it, then put out 2.6.11-rc1.

Did that strike a nerve?

-- 
    -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
  last possible moment - but no longer"  -me

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-10-26 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-22 22:05 The naming wars continue Linus Torvalds
2004-10-22 22:44 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-10-22 22:53 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-10-22 23:13   ` Espen Fjellvær Olsen
2004-10-23  3:07     ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-10-22 22:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-23 21:25   ` David Woodhouse
2004-10-25 21:44     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-26  1:27       ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2004-10-26 21:24         ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-22 23:18 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-10-22 23:46 ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-23  0:19   ` Con Kolivas
2004-10-23  1:15   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-23  1:25     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-23  1:08       ` alan
2004-10-23  2:52         ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-23  1:38       ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-23  1:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-29 18:33         ` cliff white
2004-10-23  3:03       ` Wakko Warner
2004-10-24 13:33         ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-25 23:26           ` Tonnerre
2004-10-26  6:37             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-10-26  7:32               ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-26 11:12                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-26 11:43                   ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-26 20:31                     ` Tonnerre
2004-10-27  4:21                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-10-27  8:33                         ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-27 15:48                           ` Tonnerre
2004-10-27 16:11                             ` [OT] " Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-10-27 16:14                               ` Tonnerre
2004-10-27 16:42                                 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-10-27 17:27                                   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-27 21:11                                     ` [uClibc] " Dave Dodge
2004-10-27 21:15                                       ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-27 22:35                                         ` Dave Dodge
2004-10-27 23:04                                           ` Måns Rullgård
2004-10-29 14:46                             ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-27 19:17                           ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-27 19:40                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-10-29 14:51                             ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-29 14:54                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-29 15:11                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-27 20:13                         ` The naming wars continue... [u] Martin Schlemmer [c]
2004-10-27 20:35                           ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-10-27 21:35                             ` Martin Schlemmer [c]
2004-10-26 16:26               ` The naming wars continue Tonnerre
2004-10-26 11:11             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-26 16:22               ` Tonnerre
2004-10-23  6:20       ` Nick Piggin
2004-10-25 21:30         ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-25 22:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-25 22:46             ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-27  7:38               ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-26 13:09             ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-10-27  0:40               ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-10-27  2:41                 ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2004-10-26 21:32             ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-10-27  3:01               ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2004-10-27  3:32               ` Barry K. Nathan
2004-10-27 19:23                 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-27  7:37               ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-10-27 20:08             ` l_linux-kernel@mail2news.4t2.com
2004-10-27 20:27               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-27 21:13                 ` Dave Airlie
2004-10-27 21:25                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-27 22:52                     ` Jesper Juhl
2004-10-27 22:54                       ` Dave Airlie
2004-10-27 23:14                       ` Jesper Juhl
2004-10-23 15:41       ` Stephen Frost
2004-10-23 21:51         ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2004-10-24  0:02           ` Stephen Frost
2004-10-24  3:29             ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2004-10-24  5:02               ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-10-25 23:34         ` Tonnerre
2004-10-26 17:52         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-23 22:16       ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-10-23 22:45         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-24  8:52       ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-10-23  1:35     ` Matt Mackall
2004-10-23 14:34       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-23  0:04 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-23  0:43 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-23 21:03   ` Christian Hesse
2004-10-24  0:47     ` Jon Masters
2004-10-23  2:37 ` The naming wars continue... - net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_hashlimit.c does not build Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-10-23  3:04   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-10-23 11:23 ` The naming wars continue Erik Hensema
2004-10-23 13:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-23 15:45   ` Hans Reiser
2004-10-23 15:18 ` markus reichelt
2004-10-23 14:46   ` Taso Hatzi
2004-10-24 15:54 ` generic hardirq code in 2.6.10-rc1 Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-25  6:02   ` Miles Bader
2004-10-25 12:36     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-29 14:37 ` [patch] 2.6.10-rc1: SCSI aacraid warning Adrian Bunk
2004-10-29 14:45   ` Mark Haverkamp
2004-10-29 15:13     ` Mark Haverkamp
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-23 13:17 The naming wars continue Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-23 14:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-26  6:03 Chuck Ebbert

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