From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
"open list:ABI/API" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Satya Tangirala <satyat@google.com>,
Paul Crowley <paulcrowley@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 07/18] fscrypt: add FS_IOC_ADD_ENCRYPTION_KEY ioctl
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 22:02:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4190811.5ckf3pJJgb@blindfold> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190318230830.GA40545@gmail.com>
Ericm
Am Dienstag, 19. März 2019, 00:08:31 CET schrieb Eric Biggers:
> I tried using sb->s_bdi->name, but it's still "ubifs" for all UBIFS filesystems.
hmpf.
> Perhaps there's a way you can make ->s_id for UBIFS unique? There are already
> existing places that log ->s_id, so perhaps you should do it anyway regardless
> of this patchset?
Yes, let me implement that.
ubifs does:
super_setup_bdi_name(sb, "ubifs_%d_%d", c->vi.ubi_num, c->vi.vol_id);
So, I try to set ->s_id also to ubifs_%d_%d.
> > >
> > > > Note that the keyring name isn't particularly important, since the ioctls will
> > > > work regardless. But we might as well choose something logical, since the
> > > > keyring name will still show up in /proc/keys.
> > >
> > > I'm not done with reviewing your patches, but will it be possible to use keyctl?
> > > For the a unique name is helpful. :)
> > >
> >
> > Not for adding keys, removing keys, or getting a key's status -- those are what
> > the ioctls are for.
> >
> > See e.g. the discussion in patch 7 ("fscrypt: add FS_IOC_ADD_ENCRYPTION_KEY
> > ioctl") for why the keyrings syscalls are a poor fit for fscrypt.
> >
>
> Anyway, perhaps I should reconsider whether fscrypt should even use the keyrings
> subsystem at all, even just "internally", as its quirks still leak out a bit.
> I'd prefer a nice clean API without any quirks like having to name the keyrings
> and assign SELinux labels to the keys just to make the keyrings subsystem happy.
IMHO the keys subsytem is a good fit. For example for stuff like this one:
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1945778.html
We use UBIFS on many embedded systems with crypto hardware.
Thanks,
//richard
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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
"open list:ABI/API" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Satya Tangirala <satyat@google.com>,
Paul Crowley <paulcrowley@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 07/18] fscrypt: add FS_IOC_ADD_ENCRYPTION_KEY ioctl
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 23:02:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4190811.5ckf3pJJgb@blindfold> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190318230830.GA40545@gmail.com>
Ericm
Am Dienstag, 19. März 2019, 00:08:31 CET schrieb Eric Biggers:
> I tried using sb->s_bdi->name, but it's still "ubifs" for all UBIFS filesystems.
hmpf.
> Perhaps there's a way you can make ->s_id for UBIFS unique? There are already
> existing places that log ->s_id, so perhaps you should do it anyway regardless
> of this patchset?
Yes, let me implement that.
ubifs does:
super_setup_bdi_name(sb, "ubifs_%d_%d", c->vi.ubi_num, c->vi.vol_id);
So, I try to set ->s_id also to ubifs_%d_%d.
> > >
> > > > Note that the keyring name isn't particularly important, since the ioctls will
> > > > work regardless. But we might as well choose something logical, since the
> > > > keyring name will still show up in /proc/keys.
> > >
> > > I'm not done with reviewing your patches, but will it be possible to use keyctl?
> > > For the a unique name is helpful. :)
> > >
> >
> > Not for adding keys, removing keys, or getting a key's status -- those are what
> > the ioctls are for.
> >
> > See e.g. the discussion in patch 7 ("fscrypt: add FS_IOC_ADD_ENCRYPTION_KEY
> > ioctl") for why the keyrings syscalls are a poor fit for fscrypt.
> >
>
> Anyway, perhaps I should reconsider whether fscrypt should even use the keyrings
> subsystem at all, even just "internally", as its quirks still leak out a bit.
> I'd prefer a nice clean API without any quirks like having to name the keyrings
> and assign SELinux labels to the keys just to make the keyrings subsystem happy.
IMHO the keys subsytem is a good fit. For example for stuff like this one:
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1945778.html
We use UBIFS on many embedded systems with crypto hardware.
Thanks,
//richard
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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org,
Satya Tangirala <satyat@google.com>,
"open list:ABI/API" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Paul Crowley <paulcrowley@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 07/18] fscrypt: add FS_IOC_ADD_ENCRYPTION_KEY ioctl
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 23:02:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4190811.5ckf3pJJgb@blindfold> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190318230830.GA40545@gmail.com>
Ericm
Am Dienstag, 19. März 2019, 00:08:31 CET schrieb Eric Biggers:
> I tried using sb->s_bdi->name, but it's still "ubifs" for all UBIFS filesystems.
hmpf.
> Perhaps there's a way you can make ->s_id for UBIFS unique? There are already
> existing places that log ->s_id, so perhaps you should do it anyway regardless
> of this patchset?
Yes, let me implement that.
ubifs does:
super_setup_bdi_name(sb, "ubifs_%d_%d", c->vi.ubi_num, c->vi.vol_id);
So, I try to set ->s_id also to ubifs_%d_%d.
> > >
> > > > Note that the keyring name isn't particularly important, since the ioctls will
> > > > work regardless. But we might as well choose something logical, since the
> > > > keyring name will still show up in /proc/keys.
> > >
> > > I'm not done with reviewing your patches, but will it be possible to use keyctl?
> > > For the a unique name is helpful. :)
> > >
> >
> > Not for adding keys, removing keys, or getting a key's status -- those are what
> > the ioctls are for.
> >
> > See e.g. the discussion in patch 7 ("fscrypt: add FS_IOC_ADD_ENCRYPTION_KEY
> > ioctl") for why the keyrings syscalls are a poor fit for fscrypt.
> >
>
> Anyway, perhaps I should reconsider whether fscrypt should even use the keyrings
> subsystem at all, even just "internally", as its quirks still leak out a bit.
> I'd prefer a nice clean API without any quirks like having to name the keyrings
> and assign SELinux labels to the keys just to make the keyrings subsystem happy.
IMHO the keys subsytem is a good fit. For example for stuff like this one:
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1945778.html
We use UBIFS on many embedded systems with crypto hardware.
Thanks,
//richard
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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
"open list:ABI/API" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Satya Tangirala <satyat@google.com>,
Paul Crowley <paulcrowley@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 07/18] fscrypt: add FS_IOC_ADD_ENCRYPTION_KEY ioctl
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 23:02:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4190811.5ckf3pJJgb@blindfold> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190318230830.GA40545@gmail.com>
Ericm
Am Dienstag, 19. März 2019, 00:08:31 CET schrieb Eric Biggers:
> I tried using sb->s_bdi->name, but it's still "ubifs" for all UBIFS filesystems.
hmpf.
> Perhaps there's a way you can make ->s_id for UBIFS unique? There are already
> existing places that log ->s_id, so perhaps you should do it anyway regardless
> of this patchset?
Yes, let me implement that.
ubifs does:
super_setup_bdi_name(sb, "ubifs_%d_%d", c->vi.ubi_num, c->vi.vol_id);
So, I try to set ->s_id also to ubifs_%d_%d.
> > >
> > > > Note that the keyring name isn't particularly important, since the ioctls will
> > > > work regardless. But we might as well choose something logical, since the
> > > > keyring name will still show up in /proc/keys.
> > >
> > > I'm not done with reviewing your patches, but will it be possible to use keyctl?
> > > For the a unique name is helpful. :)
> > >
> >
> > Not for adding keys, removing keys, or getting a key's status -- those are what
> > the ioctls are for.
> >
> > See e.g. the discussion in patch 7 ("fscrypt: add FS_IOC_ADD_ENCRYPTION_KEY
> > ioctl") for why the keyrings syscalls are a poor fit for fscrypt.
> >
>
> Anyway, perhaps I should reconsider whether fscrypt should even use the keyrings
> subsystem at all, even just "internally", as its quirks still leak out a bit.
> I'd prefer a nice clean API without any quirks like having to name the keyrings
> and assign SELinux labels to the keys just to make the keyrings subsystem happy.
IMHO the keys subsytem is a good fit. For example for stuff like this one:
https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1945778.html
We use UBIFS on many embedded systems with crypto hardware.
Thanks,
//richard
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2019-02-20 6:52 [RFC PATCH v3 00/18] fscrypt: key management improvements Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/18] fs, fscrypt: move uapi definitions to new header <linux/fscrypt.h> Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/18] fscrypt: use FSCRYPT_ prefix for uapi constants Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/18] fscrypt: use FSCRYPT_* definitions, not FS_* Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/18] fs: add ->s_master_keys to struct super_block Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 23:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-20 23:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-20 23:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-20 23:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/18] fscrypt: add ->ci_inode to fscrypt_info Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/18] fscrypt: refactor v1 policy key setup into keysetup_legacy.c Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/18] fscrypt: add FS_IOC_ADD_ENCRYPTION_KEY ioctl Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 23:52 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-20 23:52 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-20 23:52 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-20 23:52 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-21 5:49 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-21 5:49 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-21 5:49 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-21 9:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-21 9:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-21 9:33 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-21 18:42 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-21 18:42 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-21 18:42 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-21 18:42 ` Eric Biggers
2019-03-18 23:08 ` Eric Biggers
2019-03-18 23:08 ` Eric Biggers
2019-03-18 23:08 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-03-18 23:08 ` Eric Biggers
2019-03-18 23:08 ` Eric Biggers
2019-03-22 22:02 ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2019-03-22 22:02 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-03-22 22:02 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-03-22 22:02 ` Richard Weinberger
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/18] fs/dcache.c: add shrink_dcache_inode() Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/18] fscrypt: add FS_IOC_REMOVE_ENCRYPTION_KEY ioctl Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/18] fscrypt: add FS_IOC_GET_ENCRYPTION_KEY_STATUS ioctl Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/18] fscrypt: add an HKDF-SHA512 implementation Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/18] fscrypt: v2 encryption policy support Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/18] fscrypt: allow unprivileged users to add/remove keys for v2 policies Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/18] fscrypt: require that key be added when setting a v2 encryption policy Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/18] ext4: wire up new fscrypt ioctls Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/18] f2fs: " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/18] ubifs: " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/18] fscrypt: document the new ioctls and policy version Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 6:52 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 7:18 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/18] fscrypt: key management improvements Andreas Dilger
2019-02-20 7:18 ` Andreas Dilger
2019-02-20 7:18 ` Andreas Dilger
2019-02-20 7:54 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 7:54 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 7:54 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 7:54 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 18:07 ` David Howells
2019-02-20 18:07 ` David Howells
2019-02-20 18:07 ` David Howells
2019-02-20 18:07 ` David Howells
2019-02-20 18:36 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 18:36 ` Eric Biggers
2019-02-20 18:36 ` Eric Biggers
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