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From: David Greaves <david@dgreaves.com>
To: Mark Hahn <hahn@physics.mcmaster.ca>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Good news / bad news - The joys of RAID
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:40:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <419F9DB7.7080600@dgreaves.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0411201238320.19120-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>

Mark Hahn wrote:

>>Never buy Maxtor drives again!
>>    
>>
>
>you imply that Maxtor drives are somehow inherently flawed.
>can you explain why you think millions of people/companies
>are naive idiots for continuing to buy Maxtor disks?
>
>this sort of thing is just not plausible: Maxtor competes 
>with the other top-tier disk vendors with similar products 
>and prices and reliability.  yes, if you buy a 1-year disk,
>you can expect it to have been less carefully tested, possibly
>be of lower-end design and reliability, and to have been handle
>more poorly by the supply chain.  thankfully, you don't have 
>to buy 1-year disks any more.
>
>read the specs.  make sure your supply chain knows how to 
>handle disks.  make sure your disks are mounted correctly,
>both mechanically and with enough airflow.  use raid and 
>some form of archiving/backups.  don't get hung up on which 
>of the 4-5 top-tier vendors makes your disk.
>
>  
>

Yeah, you're right.
Of course - the fact that 2 of *my* 6 Maxtor 250Gb SATA drives (3 year 
warranty) date stamped at various times in 2004 have failed is 
coincidence and should, of course, be expected with a MTBF of millions 
of hours.

Oh, please note I'm not Robin - that must be a coincidence too :)

Personally I'm waiting for the revelation that they are recycled IBM 
Deskstar 70's ;)

I take your point about supply chain though - anything that's shipped by 
courier is suspect.

David



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-20 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-19 21:06 Good news / bad news - The joys of RAID Robin Bowes
2004-11-19 21:28 ` Guy
2004-11-20 18:42   ` Mark Hahn
2004-11-20 19:37     ` Guy
2004-11-20 20:03       ` Mark Klarzynski
2004-11-20 22:17         ` Mark Hahn
2004-11-20 23:09           ` Guy
2004-12-02 16:47           ` TJ
2004-12-02 17:29             ` Stephen C Woods
2004-12-03  3:37             ` Mark Hahn
2004-12-03  4:16               ` Guy
2004-12-03  4:46                 ` Alvin Oga
2004-12-03  5:24                 ` Richard Scobie
2004-12-03  5:40                   ` Konstantin Olchanski
2004-12-09  0:17             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-11-20 23:30       ` Mark Hahn
2004-11-20 19:40     ` David Greaves [this message]
2004-11-21  4:33       ` Guy
2004-11-21  1:01     ` berk walker
2004-11-23 19:10     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-11-23 20:03       ` Guy
2004-11-23 21:18         ` Mark Hahn
2004-11-23 23:02           ` Robin Bowes
2004-11-24  0:33             ` Guy
2004-11-24  1:45           ` berk walker
2004-11-24  2:00             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-11-24  8:01               ` Good news / bad news - The joys of hardware Guy
2004-11-24  8:57                 ` Robin Bowes
2004-11-19 21:42 ` Good news / bad news - The joys of RAID Guy
2004-11-28 13:15   ` Robin Bowes
2004-11-30  2:05     ` Neil Brown
2004-12-01  3:34       ` Doug Ledford
2004-12-01 11:50         ` Robin Bowes
2004-11-19 21:58 ` Gordon Henderson
     [not found] <037401c4cf3b$ee75bc90$030a0a0a@musicroom>
2004-11-21  4:33 ` Guy
2004-11-22 14:13   ` Yu Chen
2004-11-22 14:34     ` Gordon Henderson
2004-11-22 17:51       ` Guy
2004-11-22 23:26         ` Gordon Henderson
2004-11-22 23:48           ` Guy
2004-11-23  0:09             ` Måns Rullgård
2004-11-23 15:33             ` Gordon Henderson
2004-11-23  0:17     ` berk walker
2004-11-23  9:24       ` Robin Bowes
2004-11-23 12:31         ` Bob Hillegas
2004-11-23 13:00           ` berk walker
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0411201655400.19120-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2004-11-21 21:28 ` Mark Klarzynski
2004-11-21 21:58   ` Mark Hahn
2004-11-22  6:29   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
     [not found] <04Nov26.172857est.30052@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2004-11-26 22:41 ` Robin Bowes

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