From: Mike Hardy <mhardy@h3c.com>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: swap on RAID (was Re: swp - Re: ext3 journal on software raid)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 09:46:55 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41DD798F.8030902@h3c.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050106093811.GB99565@caffreys.strugglers.net>
Andy Smith wrote:
> I interpret your views as (a) but I interpret Mike's as "there are
> people who are saying that a correctly sized machine can have zero
> swap configured."
>
> Having no swap configured and merely using no swap in normal
> circumstances are very very different situations.
You are correct that I was getting at the zero swap argument - and I
agree that it is vastly different from simply not expecting it. It is
important to know that there is no inherent need for swap in the kernel
though - it is simply used as more "memory" (albeit slower, and with
some optimizations to work better with real memory) and if you don't
need it, you don't need it.
That said, I mentioned my servers run with swap for the same reason I
run with raid. I don't plan on having a disk very often (if at all), and
I don't plan on needing swap very often (if at all), but when it
happens, I expect my machine to keep running. (or at least I hope it does)
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-06 17:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-12-30 0:31 PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard Georg C. F. Greve
2004-12-30 16:23 ` Georg C. F. Greve
2004-12-30 17:39 ` Peter T. Breuer
2004-12-30 17:53 ` Sandro Dentella
2004-12-30 18:31 ` Peter T. Breuer
2004-12-30 19:50 ` Michael Tokarev
[not found] ` <41D45C1F.5030307-XAri/EZa3C4vJsYlp49lxw@public.gmane.org>
2004-12-30 20:54 ` berk walker
2004-12-30 20:54 ` berk walker
2005-01-01 13:39 ` Helge Hafting
2005-01-01 13:39 ` Helge Hafting
2004-12-30 21:39 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-02 19:42 ` ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard) Andy Smith
2005-01-02 20:18 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03 0:30 ` Andy Smith
2005-01-03 6:41 ` Neil Brown
2005-01-03 8:37 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03 8:03 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03 8:58 ` Guy
2005-01-03 10:18 ` Partiy error detection - was " Brad Campbell
2005-01-03 12:11 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-01-03 14:23 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-03 18:30 ` maarten
2005-01-03 21:36 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-01-05 5:50 ` Debian Sarge mdadm raid 10 assembling at boot problem Roger Ellison
2005-01-05 13:41 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-01-05 13:57 ` [help] [I2O] Adaptec 2400A on FC3 Angelo Piraino
2005-01-05 19:15 ` Debian Sarge mdadm raid 10 assembling at boot problem Roger Ellison
2005-01-05 9:56 ` ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard) Andy Smith
2005-01-05 10:44 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 10:56 ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-05 11:39 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 12:02 ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-05 13:23 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 13:33 ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-05 14:44 ` parts -- " Alvin Oga
2005-01-19 4:46 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-01-19 5:05 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-19 5:49 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-01-19 7:08 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 13:36 ` Swap should be mirrored or not? (was Re: ext3 journal on software raid) Andy Smith
2005-01-05 14:12 ` ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard) Erik Mouw
2005-01-05 14:37 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-01-05 14:55 ` errors " Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 17:11 ` Erik Mouw
2005-01-06 5:41 ` Brad Campbell
2005-01-05 15:17 ` Guy
2005-01-05 15:33 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 16:22 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-01-05 17:23 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-05 16:23 ` Andy Smith
2005-01-05 16:30 ` Andy Smith
2005-01-05 17:04 ` swp - " Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 17:26 ` Andy Smith
2005-01-05 18:32 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 22:35 ` Andy Smith
2005-01-06 0:57 ` Guy
2005-01-06 1:28 ` Mike Hardy
2005-01-06 3:32 ` Guy
2005-01-06 4:49 ` Mike Hardy
2005-01-09 21:07 ` Mark Hahn
2005-01-06 5:04 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-06 6:18 ` Guy
2005-01-06 6:31 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-06 9:38 ` swap on RAID (was Re: swp - Re: ext3 journal on software raid) Andy Smith
2005-01-06 17:46 ` Mike Hardy [this message]
2005-01-06 22:08 ` No swap can be dangerous (was Re: swap on RAID (was Re: swp - Re: ext3 journal on software raid)) Andrew Walrond
2005-01-06 22:34 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-01-06 22:57 ` Mike Hardy
2005-01-06 23:15 ` Guy
2005-01-06 23:15 ` Guy
2005-01-07 9:28 ` Andrew Walrond
2005-02-28 20:07 ` Guy
2005-02-28 20:07 ` Guy
2005-01-07 1:31 ` confused Re: swap on RAID (was Re: swp - Re: ext3 journal on software raid) Alvin Oga
2005-01-07 2:28 ` Andy Smith
2005-01-07 13:04 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-09 21:21 ` swp - Re: ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard) Mark Hahn
2005-01-09 22:20 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-06 5:01 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 17:07 ` Guy
2005-01-05 17:21 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 17:32 ` Guy
2005-01-05 18:37 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 17:34 ` ECC: RE: ext3 blah blah blah Gordon Henderson
2005-01-05 18:33 ` Alvin Oga
2005-01-05 17:26 ` ext3 journal on software raid (was Re: PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard) David Greaves
2005-01-05 18:16 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-05 18:28 ` Guy
2005-01-05 18:26 ` Guy
2005-01-05 15:48 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-01-07 6:21 ` PROBLEM: Kernel 2.6.10 crashing repeatedly and hard Clemens Schwaighofer
2005-01-07 9:39 ` Andy Smith
2004-12-30 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-30 22:04 ` Georg C. F. Greve
2004-12-30 22:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-31 4:16 ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-12-31 4:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-12-31 10:55 ` Russell King
2004-12-31 9:58 ` Georg C. F. Greve
2005-01-01 20:06 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <m3zmzvl9x1.fsf-glUV91rXKAHWIjgkaejU9x2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-01-02 20:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-01-02 20:11 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0501021147260.2280-gWtpgVMusWVb5UGfqNBoRg@public.gmane.org>
2005-01-02 20:32 ` Dave Jones
2005-01-02 20:32 ` Dave Jones
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