* RE: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
@ 2005-01-17 23:14 Ian Pratt
2005-01-18 2:06 ` Adam Heath
2005-01-18 11:05 ` Keir Fraser
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From: Ian Pratt @ 2005-01-17 23:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ian Pratt, mukesh agrawal, Keir Fraser; +Cc: xen-devel, Nivedita Singhvi
OK, I have a good handle on the problem with UDP hangs into user-space
of domain 0.
It's down to message size: if the UDP payload size is less than 24
bytes, the buffer is not freed properly. Bizarre, but it explains why
our regression tests weren't picking it up as they all use larger
message sizes.
Anyhow, now we can reproduce, a fix should be forthcoming.
Ian
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* RE: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
2005-01-17 23:14 (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure Ian Pratt
@ 2005-01-18 2:06 ` Adam Heath
2005-01-18 11:05 ` Keir Fraser
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From: Adam Heath @ 2005-01-18 2:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ian Pratt
Cc: mukesh agrawal, Keir Fraser, xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Nivedita Singhvi
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Ian Pratt wrote:
>
> OK, I have a good handle on the problem with UDP hangs into user-space
> of domain 0.
>
> It's down to message size: if the UDP payload size is less than 24
> bytes, the buffer is not freed properly. Bizarre, but it explains why
> our regression tests weren't picking it up as they all use larger
> message sizes.
>
> Anyhow, now we can reproduce, a fix should be forthcoming.
Is it possible for an nfs request/response to be less than 24 bytes in size?
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* Re: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
2005-01-17 23:14 (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure Ian Pratt
2005-01-18 2:06 ` Adam Heath
@ 2005-01-18 11:05 ` Keir Fraser
2005-01-18 11:28 ` Keir Fraser
2005-01-19 23:17 ` mukesh agrawal
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From: Keir Fraser @ 2005-01-18 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ian Pratt; +Cc: mukesh agrawal, Keir Fraser, xen-devel, Nivedita Singhvi
>
> OK, I have a good handle on the problem with UDP hangs into user-space
> of domain 0.
>
> It's down to message size: if the UDP payload size is less than 24
> bytes, the buffer is not freed properly. Bizarre, but it explains why
> our regression tests weren't picking it up as they all use larger
> message sizes.
>
> Anyhow, now we can reproduce, a fix should be forthcoming.
>
> Ian
>
\x1f -=- MIME -=- \x1f\f
OK, I have a good handle on the problem with UDP hangs into user-space
of domain 0.
It's down to message size: if the UDP payload size is less than 24
bytes, the buffer is not freed properly. Bizarre, but it explains why
our regression tests weren't picking it up as they all use larger
message sizes.
Anyhow, now we can reproduce, a fix should be forthcoming.
Ian
This bug is now (hopefully) fixed in the testing and unstable trees.
-- Keir
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* Re: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
2005-01-18 11:05 ` Keir Fraser
@ 2005-01-18 11:28 ` Keir Fraser
2005-01-18 16:04 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-01-20 19:11 ` Adam Heath
2005-01-19 23:17 ` mukesh agrawal
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From: Keir Fraser @ 2005-01-18 11:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel
> OK, I have a good handle on the problem with UDP hangs into user-space
> of domain 0.
>
> It's down to message size: if the UDP payload size is less than 24
> bytes, the buffer is not freed properly. Bizarre, but it explains why
> our regression tests weren't picking it up as they all use larger
> message sizes.
>
> Anyhow, now we can reproduce, a fix should be forthcoming.
>
> Ian
This bug is now (hopefully) fixed in the testing and unstable trees.
-- Keir
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* Re: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
2005-01-18 11:28 ` Keir Fraser
@ 2005-01-18 16:04 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-01-20 19:11 ` Adam Heath
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From: Nivedita Singhvi @ 2005-01-18 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Keir Fraser; +Cc: xen-devel
Keir Fraser wrote:
>>Anyhow, now we can reproduce, a fix should be forthcoming.
>>
>>Ian
>
>
> This bug is now (hopefully) fixed in the testing and unstable trees.
Many thanks, Ian and Keir!
I know this was recently mentioned on a thread but I'm unable
to remember or locate it - but are your regression tests
available publicly? I'm currently assisting some engineers
to put some automated testing for this internally. The small
message test (a netperf with msg size going from say 1 byte
in steps to > ~64K) is very handy indeed, it has often
exposed problems. We'd be glad to throw some tests at you
as well.
thanks,
Nivedita
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* Re: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
2005-01-18 11:28 ` Keir Fraser
2005-01-18 16:04 ` Nivedita Singhvi
@ 2005-01-20 19:11 ` Adam Heath
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From: Adam Heath @ 2005-01-20 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Keir Fraser; +Cc: xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Keir Fraser wrote:
>
> > OK, I have a good handle on the problem with UDP hangs into user-space
> > of domain 0.
> >
> > It's down to message size: if the UDP payload size is less than 24
> > bytes, the buffer is not freed properly. Bizarre, but it explains why
> > our regression tests weren't picking it up as they all use larger
> > message sizes.
> >
> > Anyhow, now we can reproduce, a fix should be forthcoming.
> >
> > Ian
>
> This bug is now (hopefully) fixed in the testing and unstable trees.
Does this bug exist in the stable(2.0) tree?
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* Re: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
2005-01-18 11:05 ` Keir Fraser
2005-01-18 11:28 ` Keir Fraser
@ 2005-01-19 23:17 ` mukesh agrawal
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From: mukesh agrawal @ 2005-01-19 23:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Keir Fraser; +Cc: Ian Pratt, xen-devel
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Keir Fraser wrote:
> This bug is now (hopefully) fixed in the testing and unstable trees.
Yep, works for me now.
Thanks!
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* RE: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
@ 2005-01-20 22:08 Ian Pratt
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From: Ian Pratt @ 2005-01-20 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Adam Heath, Keir Fraser; +Cc: xen-devel
> > > It's down to message size: if the UDP payload size is less than
24
> > > bytes, the buffer is not freed properly. Bizarre, but it
> explains why
> > > our regression tests weren't picking it up as they all use larger
> > > message sizes.
> > >
> > > Anyhow, now we can reproduce, a fix should be forthcoming.
> > >
> > > Ian
> >
> > This bug is now (hopefully) fixed in the testing and unstable trees.
>
> Does this bug exist in the stable(2.0) tree?
Yes - it will be fixed in 2.0.4. It was pretty obscure (having been in
there ever since 1.3) so we're not rushing head long to doing a new
release.
Ian
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* RE: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
@ 2005-01-16 22:52 Ian Pratt
2005-01-16 22:57 ` mukesh agrawal
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From: Ian Pratt @ 2005-01-16 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mukesh agrawal, Keir Fraser; +Cc: xen-devel, Nivedita Singhvi
> What (specific source files or documentation) would you
> suggest starting
> at, to see an example of how the destruction is supposed to
> be done? I
> guess the TCP receive code works properly, so maybe I should
> compare that
> to the UDP code?
Have you modified the config of your kernel at all? Can you reproduce
with one of the kernels compiled by us?
To debug this, I'd start off by instrumenting calls to skb_dequeue in
netback's net_rx_action, along with calls to skb_free and __kfree_skb in
skbuff.c
Ian
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* RE: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
2005-01-16 22:52 Ian Pratt
@ 2005-01-16 22:57 ` mukesh agrawal
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From: mukesh agrawal @ 2005-01-16 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ian Pratt; +Cc: Keir Fraser, xen-devel, Nivedita Singhvi
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Ian Pratt wrote:
> Have you modified the config of your kernel at all? Can you reproduce
> with one of the kernels compiled by us?
Yep. I've experienced these hangs with the kernels and hypervisor from
the Xen 2.0.3 release.
> To debug this, I'd start off by instrumenting calls to skb_dequeue in
> netback's net_rx_action, along with calls to skb_free and __kfree_skb in
> skbuff.c
Ok, will do.
Thanks,
mukesh
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* (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
@ 2005-01-15 16:40 mukesh agrawal
2005-01-15 17:04 ` Keir Fraser
2005-01-15 21:14 ` Nivedita Singhvi
0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: mukesh agrawal @ 2005-01-15 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel
Summary:
After sending some UDP traffic between two xen domains (Domain 0 and
Domain 1) the networking between the domains fails. This failure is 100%
repeatable.
In more detail:
I have two xen domains. They run the kernels from the 2.0.3 release. (I've run
into the same problem with 2.0.1 as well.) Domain 0 has 5 physical ethernet
interfaces, and a virtual interface to Domain 1. Domain 1 has just the virtual
interface to Domain 0.
D0 is configured with IP address 192.168.0.1, and D1 with 192.168.1.1. The
netmask is set to 255.255.0.0.
When I bring up D1, I can ping D1 from D0, ssh into D1, etc.
I then start a UDP server in D0, and a traffic generator in D1. After the
traffic generator sends its 128-th packet, networking between the domains
fails. The 128th packet is received successfully by the UDP server, but no
later traffic arrives in D0. This includes UDP, TCP, ICMP, and ARP.
Looking at the interrupt counts in /proc/interrupts, I see that D0 no longer
receives packets sent by D1. D1, however, does receive packets sent by D0. (To
be clear, D0->D1 traffic is ICMP ping requests, unrelated to the UDP traffic.
There is not UDP traffic sent from D0 to D1.)
(I suspect the stuff in this paragraph doesn't matter, but include it for
completeness.) Eventually, D0's ARP cache entry for D1 expires. D0 ARPs for D1,
and D1 replies. But D0 never receives these replies. And eventually, D1 stops
replying to the ARPs entirely. (D1's sending behavior is observed via tcpdump
running in the console connection to D1.)
Note that the networking failure only occurs if the UDP packets are delivered
to a user-level process in D0. In particular, UDP traffic to D0's kernel NFS
server does not induce the failure. Nor does traffic sent to D0 for which there
is no user process to accept the packets. And neither does traffic which is
forwarded on to other hosts via NAT. (I haven't tested the regular forwarding
case.)
Also, for what it's worth, Domain 0's network connectivity on its other
interfaces (which are connected to the world at large) are unaffected.
Looking through the mailing list archive, I saw a prior bug that seemed
similar, but involved IP fragmentation. That is not the case here, as the UDP
packets sent by D1 are small (<100 bytes).
Any suggestions for debugging this?
Thanks,
mukesh
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* Re: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
2005-01-15 16:40 mukesh agrawal
@ 2005-01-15 17:04 ` Keir Fraser
2005-01-15 21:14 ` Nivedita Singhvi
1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Keir Fraser @ 2005-01-15 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mukesh agrawal; +Cc: xen-devel
Maybe add some tracing to the backend driver -- it's possible the
backend isn't sending responses for those packets back to domU, and so
things seize up for a while. If no responses are being generated it is
because the backend thinks the packets are still in flight, so there
would be some bug-hunting to find out why that is.
-- Keir
>
> Summary:
>
> After sending some UDP traffic between two xen domains (Domain 0 and
> Domain 1) the networking between the domains fails. This failure is 100%
> repeatable.
>
> In more detail:
>
> I have two xen domains. They run the kernels from the 2.0.3 release. (I've run
> into the same problem with 2.0.1 as well.) Domain 0 has 5 physical ethernet
> interfaces, and a virtual interface to Domain 1. Domain 1 has just the virtual
> interface to Domain 0.
>
> D0 is configured with IP address 192.168.0.1, and D1 with 192.168.1.1. The
> netmask is set to 255.255.0.0.
>
> When I bring up D1, I can ping D1 from D0, ssh into D1, etc.
>
> I then start a UDP server in D0, and a traffic generator in D1. After the
> traffic generator sends its 128-th packet, networking between the domains
> fails. The 128th packet is received successfully by the UDP server, but no
> later traffic arrives in D0. This includes UDP, TCP, ICMP, and ARP.
>
> Looking at the interrupt counts in /proc/interrupts, I see that D0 no longer
> receives packets sent by D1. D1, however, does receive packets sent by D0. (To
> be clear, D0->D1 traffic is ICMP ping requests, unrelated to the UDP traffic.
> There is not UDP traffic sent from D0 to D1.)
>
> (I suspect the stuff in this paragraph doesn't matter, but include it for
> completeness.) Eventually, D0's ARP cache entry for D1 expires. D0 ARPs for D1,
> and D1 replies. But D0 never receives these replies. And eventually, D1 stops
> replying to the ARPs entirely. (D1's sending behavior is observed via tcpdump
> running in the console connection to D1.)
>
> Note that the networking failure only occurs if the UDP packets are delivered
> to a user-level process in D0. In particular, UDP traffic to D0's kernel NFS
> server does not induce the failure. Nor does traffic sent to D0 for which there
> is no user process to accept the packets. And neither does traffic which is
> forwarded on to other hosts via NAT. (I haven't tested the regular forwarding
> case.)
>
> Also, for what it's worth, Domain 0's network connectivity on its other
> interfaces (which are connected to the world at large) are unaffected.
>
> Looking through the mailing list archive, I saw a prior bug that seemed
> similar, but involved IP fragmentation. That is not the case here, as the UDP
> packets sent by D1 are small (<100 bytes).
>
> Any suggestions for debugging this?
>
> Thanks,
> mukesh
>
>
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* Re: (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
2005-01-15 16:40 mukesh agrawal
2005-01-15 17:04 ` Keir Fraser
@ 2005-01-15 21:14 ` Nivedita Singhvi
[not found] ` <e15e04f905011611313312b9f4@mail.gmail.com>
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From: Nivedita Singhvi @ 2005-01-15 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mukesh agrawal; +Cc: xen-devel
mukesh agrawal wrote:
>
> Summary:
>
> After sending some UDP traffic between two xen domains (Domain 0 and
> Domain 1) the networking between the domains fails. This failure is 100%
> repeatable.
I don't have boxes at the moment and can't reproduce till
Monday, but can you show us the output of netstat -uan and
netstat -s on both domains? Is there stuff in the receive
or send queues? And was all the udp traffic going to the
same port? i.e. any successful udp traffic to another
endpoint?
> I then start a UDP server in D0, and a traffic generator in D1. After
> the traffic generator sends its 128-th packet, networking between the
> domains fails. The 128th packet is received successfully by the UDP
> server, but no later traffic arrives in D0. This includes UDP, TCP,
> ICMP, and ARP.
What does ifconfig on dom0 show?
Are there any error messages in /var/log/messages?
> Looking at the interrupt counts in /proc/interrupts, I see that D0 no
> longer receives packets sent by D1. D1, however, does receive packets
> sent by D0. (To be clear, D0->D1 traffic is ICMP ping requests,
> unrelated to the UDP traffic. There is not UDP traffic sent from D0 to D1.)
Is there any other successful traffic from D0 -> D1 (tcp?)
thanks,
Nivedita
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* (repeatable) cross-domain networking failure
@ 2005-01-15 1:38 mukesh agrawal
0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: mukesh agrawal @ 2005-01-15 1:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel
Summary:
I'm running into a situation where, after sending some UDP traffic between
two xen domains (Domain 0 and Domain 1) the networking between the
domains fails. This failure is 100% repeatable.
In more detail:
I have two xen domains. They run the kernels from the 2.0.3 release. (I've
run into the same problem with 2.0.1 as well.) Domain 0 has 5 physical
ethernet interfaces, and a virtual interface to Domain 1. Domain 1 has
just the virtual interface to Domain 0.
D0 is configured with IP address 192.168.0.1, and D1 with 192.168.1.1. The
netmask is set to 255.255.0.0.
When I bring up D1, I can ping D1 from D0, ssh into D1, etc.
I then start a UDP server in D0, and a traffic generator in D1. After the
traffic generator sends its 128-th packet, networking between the domains
fails. The 128th packet is received successfully by the UDP server, but no
later traffic arrives in D0. This includes UDP, TCP, ICMP, and ARP.
Looking at the interrupt counts in /proc/interrupts, I see that D0 no
longer receives packets sent by D1. D1, however, does receive packets sent
by D0. (To be clear, D0->D1 traffic is ICMP ping requests, unrelated to
the UDP traffic. There is not UDP traffic sent from D0 to D1.)
(I suspect the stuff in this paragraph doesn't matter, but include it for
completeness.) Eventually, D0's ARP cache entry for D1 expires. D0 ARPs
for D1, and D1 replies. But D0 never receives these replies. And
eventually, D1 stops replying to the ARPs entirely. (D1's sending behavior
is observed via tcpdump running in the console connection to D1.)
Note that the networking failure only occurs if the UDP packets are
delivered to a user-level process in D0. In particular, UDP traffic to
D0's kernel NFS server does not induce the failure. Nor does traffic sent
to D0 for which there is no user process to accept the packets. And
neither does traffic which is forwarded on to other hosts via NAT. (I
haven't tested the regular forwarding case.)
Also, for what it's worth, Domain 0's network connectivity on its other
interfaces (which are connected to the world at large) are unaffected.
Looking through the mailing list archive, I saw a prior bug that seemed
similar, but involved IP fragmentation. That is not the case here, as the
UDP packets sent by D1 are small (<100 bytes).
Any suggestions for debugging this?
Thanks,
mukesh
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