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@ 2005-01-19 22:58 Chris Schmidt
  2005-01-19 23:02 ` Jan Kundrát
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From: Chris Schmidt @ 2005-01-19 22:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel

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I am not sure that I understand the requirements for Xen.   
 
I have a system running an older version of United Linux by SCO and
using Tarantella 3.34 and Samba on it.  I was wondering if I could
install Xen on it, and still keep all my United Linux apps working, and
the Tarantella Server and Samba etc.  Or would I need to install a
supported linux distro, the reinstall my United Linux on it?
 
Looks like a really neat program, but I am not grasping how it works.
 
 
Thanks
 
Chris 
 
 

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* Re: Xen on any linux
  2005-01-19 22:58 Xen on any linux Chris Schmidt
@ 2005-01-19 23:02 ` Jan Kundrát
  2005-01-19 23:10 ` Derrik Pates
  2005-01-19 23:23 ` Ronald G. Minnich
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jan Kundrát @ 2005-01-19 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chris Schmidt; +Cc: xen-devel

Chris Schmidt wrote:
> I am not sure that I understand the requirements for Xen.  
>  
> I have a system running an older version of United Linux by SCO and 
> using Tarantella 3.34 and Samba on it.  I was wondering if I could 
> install Xen on it, and still keep all my United Linux apps working, and 
> the Tarantella Server and Samba etc.  Or would I need to install a 
> supported linux distro, the reinstall my United Linux on it?

IF you want to use your existing instalation as non-privileged domain, 
you can, but you'll have to use Xen-patched kernel instead of your 
current one.

-jkt

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* RE: Xen on any linux
@ 2005-01-19 23:03 Neugebauer, Rolf
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Neugebauer, Rolf @ 2005-01-19 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chris Schmidt, xen-devel



> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:xen-devel-
> admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Chris Schmidt
> Sent: 19 January 2005 22:58
> To: xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Xen-devel] Xen on any linux
> 
> I am not sure that I understand the requirements for Xen.
> 
> I have a system running an older version of United Linux by SCO and
using
> Tarantella 3.34 and Samba on it.  I was wondering if I could install
Xen
> on it, and still keep all my United Linux apps working, and the
Tarantella
> Server and Samba etc.  Or would I need to install a supported linux
> distro, the reinstall my United Linux on it?

In principle yes. Depends if your distro allows you to run recent 2.4
kernels, uses grub as boot loader and has a recent enough Python
installation.

How old is United Linux

Just give it a try and drop down the binary install. I shouldn't damage
your installations 

rolf

> 
> Looks like a really neat program, but I am not grasping how it works.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
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* Re: Xen on any linux
  2005-01-19 22:58 Xen on any linux Chris Schmidt
  2005-01-19 23:02 ` Jan Kundrát
@ 2005-01-19 23:10 ` Derrik Pates
  2005-01-20  2:38   ` Chris Schmidt
  2005-01-19 23:23 ` Ronald G. Minnich
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Derrik Pates @ 2005-01-19 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chris Schmidt; +Cc: xen-devel

Chris Schmidt wrote:
> I have a system running an older version of United Linux by SCO and 
> using Tarantella 3.34 and Samba on it.  I was wondering if I could 
> install Xen on it, and still keep all my United Linux apps working, and 
> the Tarantella Server and Samba etc.  Or would I need to install a 
> supported linux distro, the reinstall my United Linux on it?

So long as it has the stuff that's needed (python, python devel package, 
python-twisted, iproute2, bridge utils, curl devel package, zlib devel 
package, etc.), and you can install and boot from a Xen-ified domain 0 
kernel, yes. I never used UL, so I don't know if it has all the things 
that are required.

> Looks like a really neat program, but I am not grasping how it works.

It's not a "program" per se, in that it doesn't run on top of Linux; Xen 
itself is a "hypervisor", or a supervisor for supervisors, that lets you 
partition a machine into several virtual machines and run 
specially-modified Linux kernels (or NetBSD, or FreeBSD, or Plan9) in 
each. The programs that run in domain 0 just control the Xen 
hyperkernel, telling it what to do.

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demon@devrandom.net


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* Re: Xen on any linux
  2005-01-19 22:58 Xen on any linux Chris Schmidt
  2005-01-19 23:02 ` Jan Kundrát
  2005-01-19 23:10 ` Derrik Pates
@ 2005-01-19 23:23 ` Ronald G. Minnich
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ronald G. Minnich @ 2005-01-19 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chris Schmidt; +Cc: xen-devel



On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Chris Schmidt wrote:

> I have a system running an older version of United Linux by SCO and
> using Tarantella 3.34 and Samba on it.  I was wondering if I could
> install Xen on it, and still keep all my United Linux apps working, and
> the Tarantella Server and Samba etc.  Or would I need to install a
> supported linux distro, the reinstall my United Linux on it?

it should work fine, but you have to have grub. 

All you're going to change with a xen install is you'll add a new kernel 
to grub called xen, and that kernel will use a module call 
vmlinuz-2.6.10-dom0. 

In other words, it won't really affect your install

ron


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* RE: Xen on any linux
  2005-01-19 23:10 ` Derrik Pates
@ 2005-01-20  2:38   ` Chris Schmidt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Chris Schmidt @ 2005-01-20  2:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Derrik Pates'; +Cc: xen-devel

Thanks for all the help.  I understand it better now!


Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: xen-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:xen-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Derrik Pates
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:10 PM
To: Chris Schmidt
Cc: xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Xen on any linux


Chris Schmidt wrote:
> I have a system running an older version of United Linux by SCO and
> using Tarantella 3.34 and Samba on it.  I was wondering if I could 
> install Xen on it, and still keep all my United Linux apps working,
and 
> the Tarantella Server and Samba etc.  Or would I need to install a 
> supported linux distro, the reinstall my United Linux on it?

So long as it has the stuff that's needed (python, python devel package,

python-twisted, iproute2, bridge utils, curl devel package, zlib devel 
package, etc.), and you can install and boot from a Xen-ified domain 0 
kernel, yes. I never used UL, so I don't know if it has all the things 
that are required.

> Looks like a really neat program, but I am not grasping how it works.

It's not a "program" per se, in that it doesn't run on top of Linux; Xen

itself is a "hypervisor", or a supervisor for supervisors, that lets you

partition a machine into several virtual machines and run 
specially-modified Linux kernels (or NetBSD, or FreeBSD, or Plan9) in 
each. The programs that run in domain 0 just control the Xen 
hyperkernel, telling it what to do.

-- 
Derrik Pates
demon@devrandom.net


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