* PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
2005-05-19 6:25 PC87431 is not - need full datasheet Chan Min Wai (System Administrator)
@ 2005-05-19 6:25 ` Ilia Stolov
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Mark Studebaker
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From: Ilia Stolov @ 2005-05-19 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Mark Studebaker <mds4 <at> verizon.net> writes:
>
> ask National Semiconductor.
>
> Chan Min Wai (System Administrator) wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm on Ticket #1853
> >
> > Is there anyway I can help to obtain a full data sheet?
> > What kind of full data sheet do you need?
> >
> > What should be included?
> >
> > I would like to help in this, I've contact Intel Support and I think
> > they will help in somewhere. So please tell me what do you really want
> > and I'll try my best to get that. However I'll have no promise about
> > what I can get, but I'll try my very best on this issue.
> >
> >
> >>ADM1026 is supported.
> >>PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
> >>These are both listed on our new drivers and supported chips pages for your
> >>information.
> >>If ADM1026 is not found, perhaps the SMBus master is not supported.
> >>See FAQ.
> >>
> >>MDS 12/31/04
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Chan Min Wai
> >
> >
>
Following by recently requests about National's PC87431 mBMC device,
please find the following information:
1. The PC87431 is fully IPMI 1.5 compliant device with remote
LAN manageability support
2. The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
3. The PC87431 supports all mandatory commands of IPMI 1.5
4. System configuration and sensor list can be read using regular IPMI
SDR commands
5. Specific sensor data can be obtained using IPMI "Get Sensor Reading"
command
More information about PC87431 can be found on:
http://www.national.com/pf/PC/PC87431M.html
The full PC87431 datasheet can be obtained under NDA.
For more information about IPMI specification, please see IPMI developers
web-site:
http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/ipmi/index.htm
Attached are sample sources of SSIF interface implementation for PC87431.
Sources provided under BSD license agreement.
>
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2005-05-19 6:25 PC87431 is not - need full datasheet Chan Min Wai (System Administrator)
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Ilia Stolov
@ 2005-05-19 6:25 ` Mark Studebaker
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Ilia Stolov
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From: Mark Studebaker @ 2005-05-19 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
ask National Semiconductor.
Chan Min Wai (System Administrator) wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm on Ticket #1853
>
> Is there anyway I can help to obtain a full data sheet?
> What kind of full data sheet do you need?
>
> What should be included?
>
> I would like to help in this, I've contact Intel Support and I think
> they will help in somewhere. So please tell me what do you really want
> and I'll try my best to get that. However I'll have no promise about
> what I can get, but I'll try my very best on this issue.
>
>
>>ADM1026 is supported.
>>PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
>>These are both listed on our new drivers and supported chips pages for your
>>information.
>>If ADM1026 is not found, perhaps the SMBus master is not supported.
>>See FAQ.
>>
>>MDS 12/31/04
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chan Min Wai
>
>
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2005-05-19 6:25 ` Ilia Stolov
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Mark Studebaker
@ 2005-05-19 6:25 ` Ilia Stolov
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Corey Minyard
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From: Ilia Stolov @ 2005-05-19 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF - the new host
interface introduced in IPMI 2.0 spec. And as specified in the spec
the SSIF interface can be used for IPMI 1.5 and 2.0 BMCs.
Any SMBus driver should work. The SSIF is implemented on top of SMBus.
The SSIF message format:
Request: <Slave address+W> <SMBus command = 02> <Length> <NetFn+LUN>
<IPMI command> <IPMI command data ...>
Response: <Slave address+W> <SMBus command = 03> <Slave address+R>
<Length> <NetFn+LUN> <IPMI command> <Complt Code> <Data ....>
Regards,
Ilia Stolov
National Semiconductor Corporation
"Corey Minyard"
<cminyard@mvista. To: "Mark Studebaker" <mds4@verizon.net>
com> cc: "Ilia Stolov" <Ilia.Stolov@nsc.com>, "Corey Minyard"
<minyard@mvista.com>, "Chan Min Wai (System Administrator)" <dcmwai@ocesb.com.my>,
06-01-05 05:40 AM sensors@Stimpy.netroedge.com
Subject: Re: PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
Mark Studebaker wrote:
> thanks for the info about the datasheet requiring an NDA.
> Unfortunately this means things will be difficult.
> But it may be sufficient just to get KCS over I2C working to it.
>
> The chip uses KCS over I2C.
> Corey, can we do that with the IPMI KCS driver? Do we need to
> write code to register with the KCS module to route KCS messages
> to a particlar address on a particular i2c bus?
> How would we do that - or does IPMI already have that capability?
>
> Once that is done, then the standard modules
> bmcsensors -> i2c-ipmi -> ipmi-msghdlr -> ipmi_kcs_sm
> should work.
>
> right Corey?
Well, I don't think so. There is no such thing as KCS over I2C. There
is something called the SMB interface, which is part of the newer IPMI
driver version from openipmi.sf.net. I really don't know that much
about it, someone else did that work and I don't have any hardware that
supports it. But if you are running IPMI over I2C, that's probably what
it is.
Oh wait, the line:
The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
means that it should support the standard interface that the IPMI SMB
driver uses. IIRC, configuring it is kind of a pain, but it is supposed
to work.
-Corey
>
> mds
>
>
>
>
> Ilia Stolov wrote:
>
>> Mark Studebaker <mds4 <at> verizon.net> writes:
>>
>>
>>> ask National Semiconductor.
>>>
>>> Chan Min Wai (System Administrator) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm on Ticket #1853
>>>>
>>>> Is there anyway I can help to obtain a full data sheet?
>>>> What kind of full data sheet do you need?
>>>>
>>>> What should be included?
>>>>
>>>> I would like to help in this, I've contact Intel Support and I think
>>>> they will help in somewhere. So please tell me what do you really want
>>>> and I'll try my best to get that. However I'll have no promise about
>>>> what I can get, but I'll try my very best on this issue.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ADM1026 is supported.
>>>>> PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
>>>>> These are both listed on our new drivers and supported chips pages
>>>>> for your
>>>>> information.
>>>>> If ADM1026 is not found, perhaps the SMBus master is not supported.
>>>>> See FAQ.
>>>>>
>>>>> MDS 12/31/04
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Chan Min Wai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Following by recently requests about National's PC87431 mBMC device,
>> please find the following information:
>> 1. The PC87431 is fully IPMI 1.5 compliant device with remote LAN
>> manageability support
>> 2. The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
>> 3. The PC87431 supports all mandatory commands of IPMI 1.5
>> 4. System configuration and sensor list can be read using regular
>> IPMI SDR commands
>> 5. Specific sensor data can be obtained using IPMI "Get Sensor
>> Reading" command
>>
>> More information about PC87431 can be found on:
>> http://www.national.com/pf/PC/PC87431M.html
>>
>> The full PC87431 datasheet can be obtained under NDA.
>>
>> For more information about IPMI specification, please see IPMI
>> developers web-site:
>> http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/ipmi/index.htm
>>
>> Attached are sample sources of SSIF interface implementation for
>> PC87431.
>> Sources provided under BSD license agreement.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Ilia Stolov
@ 2005-05-19 6:25 ` Corey Minyard
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Mark Studebaker
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From: Corey Minyard @ 2005-05-19 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Mark Studebaker wrote:
> thanks for the info about the datasheet requiring an NDA.
> Unfortunately this means things will be difficult.
> But it may be sufficient just to get KCS over I2C working to it.
>
> The chip uses KCS over I2C.
> Corey, can we do that with the IPMI KCS driver? Do we need to
> write code to register with the KCS module to route KCS messages
> to a particlar address on a particular i2c bus?
> How would we do that - or does IPMI already have that capability?
>
> Once that is done, then the standard modules
> bmcsensors -> i2c-ipmi -> ipmi-msghdlr -> ipmi_kcs_sm
> should work.
>
> right Corey?
Well, I don't think so. There is no such thing as KCS over I2C. There
is something called the SMB interface, which is part of the newer IPMI
driver version from openipmi.sf.net. I really don't know that much
about it, someone else did that work and I don't have any hardware that
supports it. But if you are running IPMI over I2C, that's probably what
it is.
Oh wait, the line:
The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
means that it should support the standard interface that the IPMI SMB
driver uses. IIRC, configuring it is kind of a pain, but it is supposed
to work.
-Corey
>
> mds
>
>
>
>
> Ilia Stolov wrote:
>
>> Mark Studebaker <mds4 <at> verizon.net> writes:
>>
>>
>>> ask National Semiconductor.
>>>
>>> Chan Min Wai (System Administrator) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm on Ticket #1853
>>>>
>>>> Is there anyway I can help to obtain a full data sheet?
>>>> What kind of full data sheet do you need?
>>>>
>>>> What should be included?
>>>>
>>>> I would like to help in this, I've contact Intel Support and I think
>>>> they will help in somewhere. So please tell me what do you really want
>>>> and I'll try my best to get that. However I'll have no promise about
>>>> what I can get, but I'll try my very best on this issue.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ADM1026 is supported.
>>>>> PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
>>>>> These are both listed on our new drivers and supported chips pages
>>>>> for your
>>>>> information.
>>>>> If ADM1026 is not found, perhaps the SMBus master is not supported.
>>>>> See FAQ.
>>>>>
>>>>> MDS 12/31/04
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Chan Min Wai
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Following by recently requests about National's PC87431 mBMC device,
>> please find the following information:
>> 1. The PC87431 is fully IPMI 1.5 compliant device with remote LAN
>> manageability support
>> 2. The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
>> 3. The PC87431 supports all mandatory commands of IPMI 1.5
>> 4. System configuration and sensor list can be read using regular
>> IPMI SDR commands
>> 5. Specific sensor data can be obtained using IPMI "Get Sensor
>> Reading" command
>>
>> More information about PC87431 can be found on:
>> http://www.national.com/pf/PC/PC87431M.html
>>
>> The full PC87431 datasheet can be obtained under NDA.
>>
>> For more information about IPMI specification, please see IPMI
>> developers web-site:
>> http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/ipmi/index.htm
>>
>> Attached are sample sources of SSIF interface implementation for
>> PC87431.
>> Sources provided under BSD license agreement.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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@ 2005-05-19 6:25 ` Mark Studebaker
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From: Mark Studebaker @ 2005-05-19 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
thanks for the info about the datasheet requiring an NDA.
Unfortunately this means things will be difficult.
But it may be sufficient just to get KCS over I2C working to it.
The chip uses KCS over I2C.
Corey, can we do that with the IPMI KCS driver? Do we need to
write code to register with the KCS module to route KCS messages
to a particlar address on a particular i2c bus?
How would we do that - or does IPMI already have that capability?
Once that is done, then the standard modules
bmcsensors -> i2c-ipmi -> ipmi-msghdlr -> ipmi_kcs_sm
should work.
right Corey?
mds
Ilia Stolov wrote:
> Mark Studebaker <mds4 <at> verizon.net> writes:
>
>
>>ask National Semiconductor.
>>
>>Chan Min Wai (System Administrator) wrote:
>>
>>>Hello all,
>>>
>>>I'm on Ticket #1853
>>>
>>>Is there anyway I can help to obtain a full data sheet?
>>>What kind of full data sheet do you need?
>>>
>>>What should be included?
>>>
>>>I would like to help in this, I've contact Intel Support and I think
>>>they will help in somewhere. So please tell me what do you really want
>>>and I'll try my best to get that. However I'll have no promise about
>>>what I can get, but I'll try my very best on this issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>ADM1026 is supported.
>>>>PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
>>>>These are both listed on our new drivers and supported chips pages for your
>>>>information.
>>>>If ADM1026 is not found, perhaps the SMBus master is not supported.
>>>>See FAQ.
>>>>
>>>>MDS 12/31/04
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Chan Min Wai
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> Following by recently requests about National's PC87431 mBMC device,
> please find the following information:
> 1. The PC87431 is fully IPMI 1.5 compliant device with remote
> LAN manageability support
> 2. The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
> 3. The PC87431 supports all mandatory commands of IPMI 1.5
> 4. System configuration and sensor list can be read using regular IPMI
> SDR commands
> 5. Specific sensor data can be obtained using IPMI "Get Sensor Reading"
> command
>
> More information about PC87431 can be found on:
> http://www.national.com/pf/PC/PC87431M.html
>
> The full PC87431 datasheet can be obtained under NDA.
>
> For more information about IPMI specification, please see IPMI developers
> web-site:
> http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/ipmi/index.htm
>
> Attached are sample sources of SSIF interface implementation for PC87431.
> Sources provided under BSD license agreement.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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To: lm-sensors
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However There is still one things is missing...
Driver for the "IPMI" Device in kernel...
Without that there is no way for us to even touch the ipmi chip in the
board.
Regards,
Chan Min Wai
Ilia Stolov wrote:
> The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF - the new host
> interface introduced in IPMI 2.0 spec. And as specified in the spec
> the SSIF interface can be used for IPMI 1.5 and 2.0 BMCs.
>
> Any SMBus driver should work. The SSIF is implemented on top of SMBus.
>
> The SSIF message format:
>
> Request: <Slave address+W> <SMBus command = 02> <Length> <NetFn+LUN>
> <IPMI command> <IPMI command data ...>
> Response: <Slave address+W> <SMBus command = 03> <Slave address+R>
> <Length> <NetFn+LUN> <IPMI command> <Complt Code> <Data ....>
>
> Regards,
> Ilia Stolov
> National Semiconductor Corporation
>
>
>
>
> "Corey Minyard"
> <cminyard@mvista. To: "Mark Studebaker" <mds4@verizon.net>
> com> cc: "Ilia Stolov" <Ilia.Stolov@nsc.com>, "Corey Minyard"
> <minyard@mvista.com>, "Chan Min Wai (System Administrator)" <dcmwai@ocesb.com.my>,
> 06-01-05 05:40 AM sensors@Stimpy.netroedge.com
> Subject: Re: PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark Studebaker wrote:
>
>
>>thanks for the info about the datasheet requiring an NDA.
>>Unfortunately this means things will be difficult.
>>But it may be sufficient just to get KCS over I2C working to it.
>>
>>The chip uses KCS over I2C.
>>Corey, can we do that with the IPMI KCS driver? Do we need to
>>write code to register with the KCS module to route KCS messages
>>to a particlar address on a particular i2c bus?
>>How would we do that - or does IPMI already have that capability?
>>
>>Once that is done, then the standard modules
>>bmcsensors -> i2c-ipmi -> ipmi-msghdlr -> ipmi_kcs_sm
>>should work.
>>
>>right Corey?
>
>
> Well, I don't think so. There is no such thing as KCS over I2C. There
> is something called the SMB interface, which is part of the newer IPMI
> driver version from openipmi.sf.net. I really don't know that much
> about it, someone else did that work and I don't have any hardware that
> supports it. But if you are running IPMI over I2C, that's probably what
> it is.
>
> Oh wait, the line:
> The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
> means that it should support the standard interface that the IPMI SMB
> driver uses. IIRC, configuring it is kind of a pain, but it is supposed
> to work.
>
> -Corey
>
>
>>mds
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Ilia Stolov wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Mark Studebaker <mds4 <at> verizon.net> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>ask National Semiconductor.
>>>>
>>>>Chan Min Wai (System Administrator) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm on Ticket #1853
>>>>>
>>>>>Is there anyway I can help to obtain a full data sheet?
>>>>>What kind of full data sheet do you need?
>>>>>
>>>>>What should be included?
>>>>>
>>>>>I would like to help in this, I've contact Intel Support and I think
>>>>>they will help in somewhere. So please tell me what do you really want
>>>>>and I'll try my best to get that. However I'll have no promise about
>>>>>what I can get, but I'll try my very best on this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>ADM1026 is supported.
>>>>>>PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
>>>>>>These are both listed on our new drivers and supported chips pages
>>>>>>for your
>>>>>>information.
>>>>>>If ADM1026 is not found, perhaps the SMBus master is not supported.
>>>>>>See FAQ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>MDS 12/31/04
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>Chan Min Wai
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>Following by recently requests about National's PC87431 mBMC device,
>>>please find the following information:
>>>1. The PC87431 is fully IPMI 1.5 compliant device with remote LAN
>>>manageability support
>>>2. The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
>>>3. The PC87431 supports all mandatory commands of IPMI 1.5
>>>4. System configuration and sensor list can be read using regular
>>>IPMI SDR commands
>>>5. Specific sensor data can be obtained using IPMI "Get Sensor
>>>Reading" command
>>>
>>>More information about PC87431 can be found on:
>>>http://www.national.com/pf/PC/PC87431M.html
>>>
>>>The full PC87431 datasheet can be obtained under NDA.
>>>
>>>For more information about IPMI specification, please see IPMI
>>>developers web-site:
>>>http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/ipmi/index.htm
>>>
>>>Attached are sample sources of SSIF interface implementation for
>>>PC87431.
>>>Sources provided under BSD license agreement.
>>>
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From: Mark Studebaker @ 2005-05-19 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
so the ipmi_smb driver Corey just posted to LKML, together with his previous i2c patches,
together with http://bmcsensors-26.sourceforge.net ,
and you should be able to get sensor data from the 87431!
let us know how it works!
p.s. Corey I looked through ipmi_smb and it looks good.
this should give smbus block transfers and PEC quite a good testing.
mds
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> However There is still one things is missing...
>
> Driver for the "IPMI" Device in kernel...
> Without that there is no way for us to even touch the ipmi chip in the
> board.
>
> Regards,
> Chan Min Wai
>
> Ilia Stolov wrote:
>
>>The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF - the new host
>>interface introduced in IPMI 2.0 spec. And as specified in the spec
>>the SSIF interface can be used for IPMI 1.5 and 2.0 BMCs.
>>
>>Any SMBus driver should work. The SSIF is implemented on top of SMBus.
>>
>>The SSIF message format:
>>
>>Request: <Slave address+W> <SMBus command = 02> <Length> <NetFn+LUN>
>> <IPMI command> <IPMI command data ...>
>>Response: <Slave address+W> <SMBus command = 03> <Slave address+R>
>> <Length> <NetFn+LUN> <IPMI command> <Complt Code> <Data ....>
>>
>>Regards,
>>Ilia Stolov
>>National Semiconductor Corporation
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Corey Minyard"
>> <cminyard@mvista. To: "Mark Studebaker" <mds4@verizon.net>
>> com> cc: "Ilia Stolov" <Ilia.Stolov@nsc.com>, "Corey Minyard"
>> <minyard@mvista.com>, "Chan Min Wai (System Administrator)" <dcmwai@ocesb.com.my>,
>> 06-01-05 05:40 AM sensors@Stimpy.netroedge.com
>> Subject: Re: PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Mark Studebaker wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>thanks for the info about the datasheet requiring an NDA.
>>>Unfortunately this means things will be difficult.
>>>But it may be sufficient just to get KCS over I2C working to it.
>>>
>>>The chip uses KCS over I2C.
>>>Corey, can we do that with the IPMI KCS driver? Do we need to
>>>write code to register with the KCS module to route KCS messages
>>>to a particlar address on a particular i2c bus?
>>>How would we do that - or does IPMI already have that capability?
>>>
>>>Once that is done, then the standard modules
>>>bmcsensors -> i2c-ipmi -> ipmi-msghdlr -> ipmi_kcs_sm
>>>should work.
>>>
>>>right Corey?
>>
>>
>>Well, I don't think so. There is no such thing as KCS over I2C. There
>>is something called the SMB interface, which is part of the newer IPMI
>>driver version from openipmi.sf.net. I really don't know that much
>>about it, someone else did that work and I don't have any hardware that
>>supports it. But if you are running IPMI over I2C, that's probably what
>>it is.
>>
>>Oh wait, the line:
>> The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
>>means that it should support the standard interface that the IPMI SMB
>>driver uses. IIRC, configuring it is kind of a pain, but it is supposed
>>to work.
>>
>>-Corey
>>
>>
>>
>>>mds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Ilia Stolov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Mark Studebaker <mds4 <at> verizon.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>ask National Semiconductor.
>>>>>
>>>>>Chan Min Wai (System Administrator) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm on Ticket #1853
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there anyway I can help to obtain a full data sheet?
>>>>>>What kind of full data sheet do you need?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What should be included?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would like to help in this, I've contact Intel Support and I think
>>>>>>they will help in somewhere. So please tell me what do you really want
>>>>>>and I'll try my best to get that. However I'll have no promise about
>>>>>>what I can get, but I'll try my very best on this issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>ADM1026 is supported.
>>>>>>>PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
>>>>>>>These are both listed on our new drivers and supported chips pages
>>>>>>>for your
>>>>>>>information.
>>>>>>>If ADM1026 is not found, perhaps the SMBus master is not supported.
>>>>>>>See FAQ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>MDS 12/31/04
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chan Min Wai
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Following by recently requests about National's PC87431 mBMC device,
>>>>please find the following information:
>>>>1. The PC87431 is fully IPMI 1.5 compliant device with remote LAN
>>>>manageability support
>>>>2. The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
>>>>3. The PC87431 supports all mandatory commands of IPMI 1.5
>>>>4. System configuration and sensor list can be read using regular
>>>>IPMI SDR commands
>>>>5. Specific sensor data can be obtained using IPMI "Get Sensor
>>>>Reading" command
>>>>
>>>>More information about PC87431 can be found on:
>>>>http://www.national.com/pf/PC/PC87431M.html
>>>>
>>>>The full PC87431 datasheet can be obtained under NDA.
>>>>
>>>>For more information about IPMI specification, please see IPMI
>>>>developers web-site:
>>>>http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/ipmi/index.htm
>>>>
>>>>Attached are sample sources of SSIF interface implementation for
>>>>PC87431.
>>>>Sources provided under BSD license agreement.
>>>>
>
>
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2005-05-19 6:25 PC87431 is not - need full datasheet Chan Min Wai (System Administrator)
` (6 preceding siblings ...)
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Mark Studebaker
@ 2005-05-19 6:25 ` Chan Min Wai
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Corey Minyard
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Corey Minyard
9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Chan Min Wai @ 2005-05-19 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Corey Minyard wrote:
> Mark Studebaker wrote:
>
>> so the ipmi_smb driver Corey just posted to LKML, together with his
>> previous i2c patches,
>> together with http://bmcsensors-26.sourceforge.net ,
>> and you should be able to get sensor data from the 87431!
>> let us know how it works!
>
>
> Note that this was against 2.6.11-rc2 and you need the completion patch
> posted by Mike Waychison at
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m\x110669761400454&w=2 or
> the completion_timeout routine is broken.
I'm losing here,
I've try to compile 2.6.7
however I can't load the IPMI_SI module.
Error is as below.
IPMI System Interface driver version v31, KCS version v31, SMIC version
v31, BT version v31
ipmi_si: Unknown SMBIOS SI type.
ipmi_si: Trying "kcs" at I/O port 0xca2
ipmi_si: Trying "smic" at I/O port 0xca9
ipmi_si: Trying "bt" at I/O port 0xe4
ipmi_si: Unknown SMBIOS SI type.
ipmi_si: Unknown SMBIOS SI type.
ipmi_si: Unknown SMBIOS SI type.
ipmi_si: Unable to find any System Interface(s)
with the patch + lm_sensors 2.8.7 & also 2.9.0
I've try to do a sensor-detect only the old config is being detected.
(the one that giving 127 C)... WOO (Which is the wrong value)
this is the lsmod that I'm loading
Module Size Used by
w83627hf 29956 0
eeprom 12168 0
i2c_sensor 7296 2 w83627hf,eeprom
i2c_isa 6400 0
i2c_dev 14720 0
i2c_i801 12304 0
ipmi_devintf 12036 0
i2c_ipmi 8972 0
ipmi_msghandler 59876 2 ipmi_devintf,i2c_ipmi
bmcsensors 40324 0
i2c_core 28032 8
w83627hf,eeprom,i2c_sensor,i2c_isa,i2c_dev,i2c_i801,i2c_ipmi,bmcsensors
So I dont know where I'm now...
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m\x110669761400454&w=2
I'm not too sure where it fit.
I'm on an SE7210TP1-E Mobo where the sensor chip is
AD1207 & PC87431, if you need more information.
Please help
Regards,
Chan Min Wai
P.s is ipmi_smb really exists?
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2005-05-19 6:25 PC87431 is not - need full datasheet Chan Min Wai (System Administrator)
` (7 preceding siblings ...)
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Chan Min Wai
@ 2005-05-19 6:25 ` Corey Minyard
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Corey Minyard
9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Corey Minyard @ 2005-05-19 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
ipmi_smb doesn't exist in the mainstream kernel yet. I'm working on
getting it in; the driver and some rather large related changes to the
I2C layer were posted on lkml (and the sensors list, too) a few days
ago. Those were against linux-2.6.11-rc2, not against 2.6.7, and those
patches will almost certainly not apply against 2.6.7.
If you want to use the older smb driver, it does work, but certain
functionality won't work, primarily things that occur at panic time like
storing panic information in the SEL and extending the watchdog. It's
available at http://openipmi.sf.net. There is a 2.6.7 version that will
probably work, though it doesn't do automatic DMI detection so you will
have to hand-specify the parameters.
-Corey
Chan Min Wai wrote:
>Corey Minyard wrote:
>
>
>>Mark Studebaker wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>so the ipmi_smb driver Corey just posted to LKML, together with his
>>>previous i2c patches,
>>>together with http://bmcsensors-26.sourceforge.net ,
>>>and you should be able to get sensor data from the 87431!
>>>let us know how it works!
>>>
>>>
>>Note that this was against 2.6.11-rc2 and you need the completion patch
>>posted by Mike Waychison at
>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m\x110669761400454&w=2 or
>>the completion_timeout routine is broken.
>>
>>
>
>I'm losing here,
>
>I've try to compile 2.6.7
>
>however I can't load the IPMI_SI module.
>Error is as below.
>
>
>IPMI System Interface driver version v31, KCS version v31, SMIC version
>v31, BT version v31
>ipmi_si: Unknown SMBIOS SI type.
>ipmi_si: Trying "kcs" at I/O port 0xca2
>ipmi_si: Trying "smic" at I/O port 0xca9
>ipmi_si: Trying "bt" at I/O port 0xe4
>ipmi_si: Unknown SMBIOS SI type.
>ipmi_si: Unknown SMBIOS SI type.
>ipmi_si: Unknown SMBIOS SI type.
>ipmi_si: Unable to find any System Interface(s)
>
>with the patch + lm_sensors 2.8.7 & also 2.9.0
>I've try to do a sensor-detect only the old config is being detected.
>(the one that giving 127 C)... WOO (Which is the wrong value)
>
>this is the lsmod that I'm loading
>Module Size Used by
>w83627hf 29956 0
>eeprom 12168 0
>i2c_sensor 7296 2 w83627hf,eeprom
>i2c_isa 6400 0
>i2c_dev 14720 0
>i2c_i801 12304 0
>ipmi_devintf 12036 0
>i2c_ipmi 8972 0
>ipmi_msghandler 59876 2 ipmi_devintf,i2c_ipmi
>bmcsensors 40324 0
>i2c_core 28032 8
>w83627hf,eeprom,i2c_sensor,i2c_isa,i2c_dev,i2c_i801,i2c_ipmi,bmcsensors
>
>So I dont know where I'm now...
>
>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m\x110669761400454&w=2
>I'm not too sure where it fit.
>
>I'm on an SE7210TP1-E Mobo where the sensor chip is
>AD1207 & PC87431, if you need more information.
>
>Please help
>
>Regards,
>Chan Min Wai
>
>P.s is ipmi_smb really exists?
>
>
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2005-05-19 6:25 PC87431 is not - need full datasheet Chan Min Wai (System Administrator)
` (8 preceding siblings ...)
2005-05-19 6:25 ` Corey Minyard
@ 2005-05-19 6:25 ` Corey Minyard
9 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Corey Minyard @ 2005-05-19 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: lm-sensors
Mark Studebaker wrote:
> so the ipmi_smb driver Corey just posted to LKML, together with his
> previous i2c patches,
> together with http://bmcsensors-26.sourceforge.net ,
> and you should be able to get sensor data from the 87431!
> let us know how it works!
Note that this was against 2.6.11-rc2 and you need the completion patch
posted by Mike Waychison at
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m\x110669761400454&w=2 or
the completion_timeout routine is broken.
>
> p.s. Corey I looked through ipmi_smb and it looks good.
> this should give smbus block transfers and PEC quite a good testing.
Yes, it should. After playing with it a while, I discovered that the
i801 SMB interface is very sensitive to doing things just right. But I
think I have everything working correctly with the posted patches, it
ran for a whole day without a single error.
-Corey
>
> mds
>
>
> Chan Min Wai wrote:
>
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>>
>> However There is still one things is missing...
>>
>> Driver for the "IPMI" Device in kernel...
>> Without that there is no way for us to even touch the ipmi chip in the
>> board.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chan Min Wai
>>
>> Ilia Stolov wrote:
>>
>>> The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF - the new host
>>> interface introduced in IPMI 2.0 spec. And as specified in the spec
>>> the SSIF interface can be used for IPMI 1.5 and 2.0 BMCs.
>>>
>>> Any SMBus driver should work. The SSIF is implemented on top of SMBus.
>>>
>>> The SSIF message format:
>>>
>>> Request: <Slave address+W> <SMBus command = 02> <Length> <NetFn+LUN>
>>> <IPMI command> <IPMI command data ...>
>>> Response: <Slave address+W> <SMBus command = 03> <Slave address+R>
>>> <Length> <NetFn+LUN> <IPMI command> <Complt Code> <Data ....>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ilia Stolov
>>> National Semiconductor Corporation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Corey
>>> Minyard"
>>> <cminyard@mvista. To: "Mark
>>> Studebaker" <mds4@verizon.net>
>>> com> cc: "Ilia
>>> Stolov" <Ilia.Stolov@nsc.com>, "Corey Minyard"
>>> <minyard@mvista.com>,
>>> "Chan Min Wai (System Administrator)" <dcmwai@ocesb.com.my>,
>>> 06-01-05 05:40 AM
>>> sensors@Stimpy.netroedge.com
>>> Subject: Re: PC87431
>>> is not - need full datasheet.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Studebaker wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> thanks for the info about the datasheet requiring an NDA.
>>>> Unfortunately this means things will be difficult.
>>>> But it may be sufficient just to get KCS over I2C working to it.
>>>>
>>>> The chip uses KCS over I2C.
>>>> Corey, can we do that with the IPMI KCS driver? Do we need to
>>>> write code to register with the KCS module to route KCS messages
>>>> to a particlar address on a particular i2c bus?
>>>> How would we do that - or does IPMI already have that capability?
>>>>
>>>> Once that is done, then the standard modules
>>>> bmcsensors -> i2c-ipmi -> ipmi-msghdlr -> ipmi_kcs_sm
>>>> should work.
>>>>
>>>> right Corey?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I don't think so. There is no such thing as KCS over I2C. There
>>> is something called the SMB interface, which is part of the newer IPMI
>>> driver version from openipmi.sf.net. I really don't know that much
>>> about it, someone else did that work and I don't have any hardware that
>>> supports it. But if you are running IPMI over I2C, that's probably
>>> what
>>> it is.
>>>
>>> Oh wait, the line:
>>> The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
>>> means that it should support the standard interface that the IPMI SMB
>>> driver uses. IIRC, configuring it is kind of a pain, but it is
>>> supposed
>>> to work.
>>>
>>> -Corey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> mds
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ilia Stolov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Mark Studebaker <mds4 <at> verizon.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ask National Semiconductor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chan Min Wai (System Administrator) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm on Ticket #1853
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there anyway I can help to obtain a full data sheet?
>>>>>>> What kind of full data sheet do you need?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What should be included?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to help in this, I've contact Intel Support and I
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> they will help in somewhere. So please tell me what do you
>>>>>>> really want
>>>>>>> and I'll try my best to get that. However I'll have no promise
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> what I can get, but I'll try my very best on this issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ADM1026 is supported.
>>>>>>>> PC87431 is not - need full datasheet.
>>>>>>>> These are both listed on our new drivers and supported chips pages
>>>>>>>> for your
>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>> If ADM1026 is not found, perhaps the SMBus master is not
>>>>>>>> supported.
>>>>>>>> See FAQ.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> MDS 12/31/04
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chan Min Wai
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Following by recently requests about National's PC87431 mBMC device,
>>>>> please find the following information:
>>>>> 1. The PC87431 is fully IPMI 1.5 compliant device with remote LAN
>>>>> manageability support
>>>>> 2. The Host interface of PC87431 is IPMI 1.5/2.0 SSIF (SMBus)
>>>>> 3. The PC87431 supports all mandatory commands of IPMI 1.5
>>>>> 4. System configuration and sensor list can be read using regular
>>>>> IPMI SDR commands
>>>>> 5. Specific sensor data can be obtained using IPMI "Get Sensor
>>>>> Reading" command
>>>>>
>>>>> More information about PC87431 can be found on:
>>>>> http://www.national.com/pf/PC/PC87431M.html
>>>>>
>>>>> The full PC87431 datasheet can be obtained under NDA.
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information about IPMI specification, please see IPMI
>>>>> developers web-site:
>>>>> http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/ipmi/index.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Attached are sample sources of SSIF interface implementation for
>>>>> PC87431.
>>>>> Sources provided under BSD license agreement.
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
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