From: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2005-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: ACPI mailing list
<acpi-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
kernel list
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
seife-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org,
rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Call for help: list of machines with working S3
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:36:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <421119D7.20609@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050214211105.GA12808-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
Pavel Machek schrieb:
> Hi!
>
> Stefan provided me initial list of machines where S3 works (including
> video). If you have machine that is not on the list, please send me a
> diff. If you have eMachines... I'd like you to try playing with
> vbetool (it worked for me), and if it works for you supplying right
> model numbers.
>
> Pavel
>
>
> Video issues with S3 resume
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 2003-2005, Pavel Machek
>
> During S3 resume, hardware needs to be reinitialized. For most
> devices, this is easy, and kernel driver knows how to do
> it. Unfortunately there's one exception: video card. Those are usually
> initialized by BIOS, and kernel does not have enough information to
> boot video card. (Kernel usually does not even contain video card
> driver -- vesafb and vgacon are widely used).
>
> This is not problem for swsusp, because during swsusp resume, BIOS is
> run normally so video card is normally initialized. S3 has absolutely
> no change to work with SMP/HT. Be sure it to turn it off before
> testing (swsusp should work ok, OTOH).
>
> There are few types of systems where video works after S3 resume:
>
> (1) systems where video state is preserved over S3.
>
> (2) systems where it is possible to call video bios during S3
> resume. Unfortunately, it is not correct to call video BIOS at that
> point, but it happens to work on some machines. Use
> acpi_sleep=s3_bios.
>
> (3) systems that initialize video card into vga text mode and where BIOS
> works well enough to be able to set video mode. Use
> acpi_sleep=s3_mode on these.
>
> (4) on some systems s3_bios kicks video into text mode, and
> acpi_sleep=s3_bios,s3_mode is needed.
>
> (5) radeon systems, where X can soft-boot your video card. You'll need
> patched X, and plain text console (no vesafb or radeonfb), see
> http://www.doesi.gmxhome.de/linux/tm800s3/s3.html.
(5) machines should also work with (6), but not the other way round.
>
> (6) other radeon systems, where vbetool is enough to bring system back
> to life. Do vbetool vbestate save > /tmp/delme; echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep;
> vbetool post; vbetool vbestate restore < /tmp/delme; setfont
> <whatever>, and your video should work.
(6) has to be done from a text console! It should work for all radeon
systems, btw.
>
> Now, if you pass acpi_sleep=something, and it does not work with your
> bios, you'll get hard crash during resume. Be carefull. Also it is
> safest to do your experiments with plain old VGA console. vesafb and
> radeonfb (etc) drivers have tendency to crash the machine during resume.
>
> You may have system where none of above works. At that point you
> either invent another ugly hack that works, or write proper driver for
> your video card (good luck getting docs :-(). Maybe suspending from X
> (proper X, knowing your hardware, not XF68_FBcon) might have better
> chance of working.
>
> Table of known working systems:
>
> Model hack (or "how to do it")
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> IBM TP R32 / Type 2658-MMG none (1)
> Athlon HP Omnibook XE3 none (1)
> Compaq Armada E500 - P3-700 none (1) (S1 also works OK)
> IBM t41p none (1)
> Athlon64 desktop prototype s3_bios (2)
> HP NC6000 s3_bios (2)
> Toshiba Satellite 4080XCDT s3_mode (3)
> Toshiba Satellite 4030CDT s3_mode (3)
> Dell D600, ATI RV250 vga=normal (**)
The Dell system above should also work fine with vbestate.
> Asus L2400D s3_mode (3)(***) (S1 also works OK)
> Toshiba Satellite P10-554 s3_bios,s3_mode (4)(****)
> Acer TM 800 vga=normal, X patches, see webpage (5)
> Athlon64 Arima W730a vbestate needed (6)
> eMachines athlon64 machines vbestate needed (6) (someone please get me model #s)
Samsung P35 vbestate needed (6)
>
> (**) Text console is "strange" after resume. Backlight is switched on again
> by the X server. X server is:
> | X Window System Version 6.8.1.904 (6.8.2 RC 4)
> | Release Date: 2 February 2005
> | X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.1.904
> | Build Operating System: SuSE Linux [ELF] SuSE
> as present in SUSE 9.3preview3.
>
> (***) To be tested with a newer kernel.
>
> (****) Not with SMP kernel, UP only.
Regards,
Carl-Daniel
--
http://www.hailfinger.org/
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From: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2005@gmx.net>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: ACPI mailing list <acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
seife@suse.de, rjw@sisk.pl
Subject: Re: [ACPI] Call for help: list of machines with working S3
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:36:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <421119D7.20609@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050214211105.GA12808@elf.ucw.cz>
Pavel Machek schrieb:
> Hi!
>
> Stefan provided me initial list of machines where S3 works (including
> video). If you have machine that is not on the list, please send me a
> diff. If you have eMachines... I'd like you to try playing with
> vbetool (it worked for me), and if it works for you supplying right
> model numbers.
>
> Pavel
>
>
> Video issues with S3 resume
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 2003-2005, Pavel Machek
>
> During S3 resume, hardware needs to be reinitialized. For most
> devices, this is easy, and kernel driver knows how to do
> it. Unfortunately there's one exception: video card. Those are usually
> initialized by BIOS, and kernel does not have enough information to
> boot video card. (Kernel usually does not even contain video card
> driver -- vesafb and vgacon are widely used).
>
> This is not problem for swsusp, because during swsusp resume, BIOS is
> run normally so video card is normally initialized. S3 has absolutely
> no change to work with SMP/HT. Be sure it to turn it off before
> testing (swsusp should work ok, OTOH).
>
> There are few types of systems where video works after S3 resume:
>
> (1) systems where video state is preserved over S3.
>
> (2) systems where it is possible to call video bios during S3
> resume. Unfortunately, it is not correct to call video BIOS at that
> point, but it happens to work on some machines. Use
> acpi_sleep=s3_bios.
>
> (3) systems that initialize video card into vga text mode and where BIOS
> works well enough to be able to set video mode. Use
> acpi_sleep=s3_mode on these.
>
> (4) on some systems s3_bios kicks video into text mode, and
> acpi_sleep=s3_bios,s3_mode is needed.
>
> (5) radeon systems, where X can soft-boot your video card. You'll need
> patched X, and plain text console (no vesafb or radeonfb), see
> http://www.doesi.gmxhome.de/linux/tm800s3/s3.html.
(5) machines should also work with (6), but not the other way round.
>
> (6) other radeon systems, where vbetool is enough to bring system back
> to life. Do vbetool vbestate save > /tmp/delme; echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep;
> vbetool post; vbetool vbestate restore < /tmp/delme; setfont
> <whatever>, and your video should work.
(6) has to be done from a text console! It should work for all radeon
systems, btw.
>
> Now, if you pass acpi_sleep=something, and it does not work with your
> bios, you'll get hard crash during resume. Be carefull. Also it is
> safest to do your experiments with plain old VGA console. vesafb and
> radeonfb (etc) drivers have tendency to crash the machine during resume.
>
> You may have system where none of above works. At that point you
> either invent another ugly hack that works, or write proper driver for
> your video card (good luck getting docs :-(). Maybe suspending from X
> (proper X, knowing your hardware, not XF68_FBcon) might have better
> chance of working.
>
> Table of known working systems:
>
> Model hack (or "how to do it")
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> IBM TP R32 / Type 2658-MMG none (1)
> Athlon HP Omnibook XE3 none (1)
> Compaq Armada E500 - P3-700 none (1) (S1 also works OK)
> IBM t41p none (1)
> Athlon64 desktop prototype s3_bios (2)
> HP NC6000 s3_bios (2)
> Toshiba Satellite 4080XCDT s3_mode (3)
> Toshiba Satellite 4030CDT s3_mode (3)
> Dell D600, ATI RV250 vga=normal (**)
The Dell system above should also work fine with vbestate.
> Asus L2400D s3_mode (3)(***) (S1 also works OK)
> Toshiba Satellite P10-554 s3_bios,s3_mode (4)(****)
> Acer TM 800 vga=normal, X patches, see webpage (5)
> Athlon64 Arima W730a vbestate needed (6)
> eMachines athlon64 machines vbestate needed (6) (someone please get me model #s)
Samsung P35 vbestate needed (6)
>
> (**) Text console is "strange" after resume. Backlight is switched on again
> by the X server. X server is:
> | X Window System Version 6.8.1.904 (6.8.2 RC 4)
> | Release Date: 2 February 2005
> | X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.1.904
> | Build Operating System: SuSE Linux [ELF] SuSE
> as present in SUSE 9.3preview3.
>
> (***) To be tested with a newer kernel.
>
> (****) Not with SMP kernel, UP only.
Regards,
Carl-Daniel
--
http://www.hailfinger.org/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-14 21:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-14 21:11 Call for help: list of machines with working S3 Pavel Machek
2005-02-14 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20050214211105.GA12808-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-14 21:36 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [this message]
2005-02-14 21:36 ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-15 6:05 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-02-15 6:05 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-02-15 12:12 ` [ACPI] " Lorenzo Colitti
[not found] ` <4211E729.1090305-Z4WAQ3j+MphBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-15 13:17 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-02-15 13:17 ` [ACPI] " Alistair John Strachan
2005-02-15 16:07 ` Lorenzo Colitti
2005-02-15 15:41 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <1108482083.12031.10.camel-Xmbc1Sz64/5pghhO6/9/sx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-15 16:15 ` Lorenzo Colitti
2005-02-15 16:15 ` [ACPI] " Lorenzo Colitti
2005-02-15 16:16 ` Lorenzo Colitti
2005-02-15 16:16 ` [ACPI] " Lorenzo Colitti
[not found] ` <42122054.8010408-Z4WAQ3j+MphBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-15 17:42 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-02-15 17:42 ` [ACPI] " Alistair John Strachan
[not found] ` <200502151742.55362.s0348365-Y3tGgqFSo3OFxr2TtlUqVg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-15 20:43 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-15 20:43 ` [ACPI] " Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <1108500194.12031.21.camel-Xmbc1Sz64/5pghhO6/9/sx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-15 21:09 ` Lorenzo Colitti
2005-02-15 21:09 ` [ACPI] " Lorenzo Colitti
[not found] ` <42126506.8020407-Z4WAQ3j+MphBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-16 1:41 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-02-16 1:41 ` [ACPI] " Alistair John Strachan
[not found] ` <200502160141.11633.alistair-T7eSMZptz7IqdlJmJB21zg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-16 1:54 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-16 1:54 ` [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20050216015418.GC13753-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-16 2:47 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-16 2:47 ` [ACPI] " Nigel Cunningham
2005-02-16 8:30 ` Romano Giannetti
2005-02-16 14:25 ` Kjartan Maraas
2005-02-18 20:49 ` Alistair John Strachan
[not found] ` <200502182049.11088.s0348365-Y3tGgqFSo3OFxr2TtlUqVg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-20 9:21 ` Luca Capello
2005-02-20 9:21 ` [ACPI] " Luca Capello
2005-02-21 14:25 ` Kjartan Maraas
2005-02-21 14:25 ` [ACPI] " Kjartan Maraas
2005-02-22 14:33 ` Karol Kozimor
2005-02-15 16:05 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-02-15 14:35 ` Bernd Schubert
[not found] ` <200502151535.41058.bernd.schubert-VNq4CFrKgK+dPOQpRHQ53DeJuz7u0hKX@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-15 18:50 ` Bernd Schubert
2005-02-15 21:28 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-02-15 21:28 ` [ACPI] " Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-02-16 5:54 ` Stefan Schweizer
2005-02-16 5:54 ` [ACPI] " Stefan Schweizer
2005-02-16 8:48 ` Stefan Dösinger
[not found] ` <200502160948.43005.stefandoesinger-RbZlAiThDcE@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-16 15:06 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-16 15:06 ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-16 17:43 ` Stefan Schweizer
[not found] ` <42136158.5000906-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-16 19:26 ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-16 19:26 ` [ACPI] " Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-16 13:29 ` Tim Dijkstra
[not found] ` <20050216142916.0f48c36f-acHaiI0CM+haAVKTNDtesg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-16 13:47 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20050216134745.GE1446-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-17 8:52 ` Tim Dijkstra
2005-02-17 6:16 ` Len Brown
2005-02-17 6:16 ` [ACPI] " Len Brown
2005-02-17 10:15 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-17 10:15 ` [ACPI] " Vojtech Pavlik
[not found] ` <20050217101533.GA15721-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-17 23:12 ` Len Brown
2005-02-17 23:12 ` [ACPI] " Len Brown
2005-02-17 11:00 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-17 16:18 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-17 16:44 ` Vernon Mauery
[not found] ` <4214C9D0.1090707-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-17 20:13 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-17 20:13 ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
[not found] ` <4214C3B8.30502-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-17 19:54 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 19:54 ` [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20050217195456.GA5963-u08AdweFZfgxtPtxi4kahqVXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-17 20:34 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-17 20:34 ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
[not found] ` <4214FFCE.4080703-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-17 20:42 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 20:42 ` [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 20:25 ` Johan Vromans
[not found] ` <m28y5ndjcz.fsf-KjnUIgV0B0bak1Ioo/c9IoRWq/SkRNHw@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-17 21:10 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-18 10:12 ` Johan Vromans
2005-02-17 11:02 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 11:02 ` [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
2005-02-17 23:19 ` Luca Capello
2005-02-17 23:19 ` [ACPI] " Luca Capello
[not found] ` <20050217232932.GB29815@elf.ucw.cz>
[not found] ` <20050217232932.GB29815-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-17 23:52 ` Luca Capello
2005-03-14 6:19 ` Jan De Luyck
2005-03-14 6:19 ` Jan De Luyck
[not found] ` <200503140719.01536.lkml-gY0FE6dpLprYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14 8:00 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-14 8:00 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-14 14:39 ` Jan De Luyck
[not found] ` <200503141539.14018.lkml-gY0FE6dpLprYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2005-05-01 15:04 ` Luca Capello
[not found] ` <8764y356o8.fsf-vpnYUZh4Q8kL5bzFcGmneg@public.gmane.org>
2005-05-04 16:31 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20050314080029.GF22635-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-15 8:10 ` Li Shaohua
2005-03-15 8:10 ` [ACPI] " Li Shaohua
2005-03-15 11:34 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <1110886444.6454.121.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPX/uOuaPYTxhvJwvTLr3MMZM@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-15 12:04 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-15 12:04 ` [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
2005-02-14 23:23 ` [ACPI] " Matthew Garrett
2005-02-14 23:34 ` Rich Townsend
2005-02-14 23:47 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-14 23:47 ` [ACPI] " Matthew Garrett
2005-02-15 12:55 ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-15 13:17 ` Karol Kozimor
[not found] ` <20050215125555.GD16394-DqSSrKF0TaySnEC3TeqHn5dqbFPxfnh/@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-15 16:09 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-15 16:09 ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
[not found] ` <42121EC5.8000004-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-15 17:08 ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-15 17:08 ` [ACPI] " Norbert Preining
[not found] ` <20050215170837.GA6336-DqSSrKF0TaySnEC3TeqHn5dqbFPxfnh/@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-15 18:57 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-15 18:57 ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
[not found] ` <4212460A.4000100-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-15 20:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-15 20:21 ` [ACPI] " Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <1108498875.12026.18.camel-Xmbc1Sz64/5pghhO6/9/sx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-15 22:40 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-15 22:40 ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-15 23:35 ` I can't get iasl to compile Mark Eaton
[not found] ` <200502160935.11842.meaton-tw97OP0PknkAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-16 0:00 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-16 1:00 ` DSDT errors Mark Eaton
2005-02-16 9:51 ` [ACPI] Call for help: list of machines with working S3 Norbert Preining
2005-02-15 19:37 ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-15 19:37 ` [ACPI] " Stefan Dösinger
[not found] ` <200502152038.00401.stefandoesinger-RbZlAiThDcE@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-17 11:06 ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-17 11:06 ` [ACPI] " Norbert Preining
2005-02-17 19:08 ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-17 19:08 ` [ACPI] " Norbert Preining
[not found] ` <20050217190815.GC4925-DqSSrKF0TaySnEC3TeqHn5dqbFPxfnh/@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-17 20:58 ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-17 20:58 ` [ACPI] " Stefan Dösinger
[not found] ` <200502172158.56721.stefandoesinger-RbZlAiThDcE@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-18 10:46 ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-18 10:46 ` [ACPI] " Norbert Preining
[not found] ` <20050218104633.GA28246-DqSSrKF0TaySnEC3TeqHn5dqbFPxfnh/@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-18 11:03 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-02-18 13:38 ` [ACPI] " Norbert Preining
[not found] ` <20050218133816.GA13745-DqSSrKF0TaySnEC3TeqHn5dqbFPxfnh/@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-18 18:04 ` Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-18 18:04 ` [ACPI] " Stefan Dösinger
2005-02-15 19:47 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-15 19:47 ` [ACPI] " Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20050215194710.GE7338-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-17 19:09 ` Norbert Preining
2005-02-17 19:09 ` [ACPI] " Norbert Preining
2005-02-16 9:34 ` Romano Giannetti
2005-02-16 9:34 ` [ACPI] " Romano Giannetti
[not found] ` <20050216093454.GC22816-NfIQswJzSEaq9fEpoSJUslHdEuJhDOxL@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-16 14:54 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-02-16 14:54 ` [ACPI] " Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
[not found] ` <42135EAE.8030407-hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-16 16:10 ` Romano Giannetti
2005-02-16 16:10 ` [ACPI] " Romano Giannetti
2005-02-22 22:08 ` Karol Kozimor
2005-02-24 12:37 ` Norbert Preining
[not found] ` <20050224123716.GD28961-DqSSrKF0TaySnEC3TeqHn5dqbFPxfnh/@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-24 21:36 ` Karol Kozimor
2005-02-24 21:36 ` [ACPI] " Karol Kozimor
2005-02-25 17:50 ` Proinnsias Breathnach
2005-02-27 16:57 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20050227165701.GE1441-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-27 17:44 ` Oisín Mac Fhearaí
2005-02-27 18:04 ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-02-27 18:04 ` [ACPI] " Stefan Seyfried
[not found] ` <42220B96.30301-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-27 18:08 ` Pavel Machek
2005-02-15 16:31 ` [ACPI] " Vernon Mauery
2005-02-23 19:30 ` Nish Aravamudan
[not found] ` <29495f1d050223113044b96fcf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-24 3:50 ` Ow Mun Heng
[not found] ` <1109217054.10202.1.camel-/ZsuMndpQpsb5wn6fCfWY+TW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2005-02-24 11:21 ` Proinnsias Breathnach
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2005-02-24 13:37 ` Matthew Garrett
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2005-03-17 20:05 ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2005-03-18 14:50 ` Romano Giannetti
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