[parisc-linux] HP model 612 hard disk not found

[parisc-linux] HP model 612 hard disk not found

[Marios K.]

I have an old HP Model 612 with 64MB Ram, 1 Seagete scsi hard disk.
I manage to find a scsi cdrom, so i tried to install debian.
The scsi cable had the capability to install only one disk, so i found
another one with possibility of connecting the hard disk and the cdrom.

I connected the hard disk on the "middle" connector of the cable and put
the scsi id at 2.0

I connected the the cdrom on the "outer" connector and put the scsi id
as 4.0

Booting in BOOT_ADMIN> and writing search
The boot loader found them both.
Seagete SCSI.2.0
Pioneer SCSI.4.0

Ok then, i write
boot scsi.4.0
And the installation begins,
After linux kernel loader, i see the it has found both cdrom and hard
disk with the scsi id correct.
I choose language-keyboard.
I configure network (although it is not connected to the network for the
moment), but when it comes to partition the disk it says
NO HARD DISK FOUND. CONFIGURE NETWORK FOR NFS MOUNT something....

Why the installer can't see the hard disk, while in boot time it sees
it?
The hard disk contains an HPUX OS.




P.S. I apologize if this issue has already answered, but i couldn't find
nothing on the net. I would appreciate if you cc me.


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Marios K. <marios_hellas_23@yahoo.gr>


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Re: [parisc-linux] HP model 612 hard disk not found

[Michael S. Zick]

On Thu February 24 2005 03:57, Marios K. wrote:
> I have an old HP Model 612 with 64MB Ram, 1 Seagete scsi hard disk.
> I manage to find a scsi cdrom, so i tried to install debian.
> The scsi cable had the capability to install only one disk, so i found
> another one with possibility of connecting the hard disk and the cdrom.
> 
> I connected the hard disk on the "middle" connector of the cable and put
> the scsi id at 2.0
> 
> I connected the the cdrom on the "outer" connector and put the scsi id
> as 4.0
> 
> Booting in BOOT_ADMIN> and writing search
> The boot loader found them both.
> Seagete SCSI.2.0
> Pioneer SCSI.4.0
> 
> Ok then, i write
> boot scsi.4.0
> And the installation begins,
> After linux kernel loader, i see the it has found both cdrom and hard
> disk with the scsi id correct.
> I choose language-keyboard.
> I configure network (although it is not connected to the network for the
> moment), but when it comes to partition the disk it says
> NO HARD DISK FOUND. CONFIGURE NETWORK FOR NFS MOUNT something....
>
Could be that the installer is only looking for the primary hard disk;
which for hp, pa-risc is id 6 (secondary is id 5)...
(-- Could by I have those reversed -- Might be pri=5, sec=6 )

Try setting your scsi id numbers, disk=6, cdrom=5.
( Or the reverse of that )

OR
Configure your network, and net-boot the machine.
You can find directions on the site for doing that.

Note:
With 64M of ram, be sure to allow a generous swap
partition when you partition your disk drive.

Mike
> 
> Why the installer can't see the hard disk, while in boot time it sees
> it?
> The hard disk contains an HPUX OS.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> P.S. I apologize if this issue has already answered, but i couldn't find
> nothing on the net. I would appreciate if you cc me.
> 
> 
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Re: [parisc-linux] HP model 612 hard disk not found

[Michael S. Zick]

On Fri February 25 2005 03:06, Marios K. wrote:
> 
> > Could be that the installer is only looking for the primary hard disk;
> > which for hp, pa-risc is id 6 (secondary is id 5)...
> > (-- Could by I have those reversed -- Might be pri=5, sec=6 )
> > 
> > Try setting your scsi id numbers, disk=6, cdrom=5.
> > ( Or the reverse of that )
> > 
> > OR
> No, that didn't worked.
> But opening a console and dmesg , i found that the hard disk couldoun't
> be mounted due filesystem something. Unfortunatelly the system is in my
> home and i can't remember the excactly message. I tried to mount it
> manially by using 
> mount /dev/scd0 /target
> /dev/sda
> /dev/sda1
> etc
> But nothing works. 
> How can i mount it. It has a filesystem of HP-UX.
> fdisk command doesn't exist
> 
Hmm...
If you could provide a little more information

I haven't used the new Debian installer, but the following should
work - it is typical of Linux installs.

1) Boot from your cd.

2) If this gives you a choice of kernels, just 'enter' for the default.

3) The installation process will display its first set of questions as
soon as the selected kernel boots.

4) You are now running Linux, only from the cdrom and a ramdisk.

5) Installers normally have multiple consoles enabled...
the keystrokes: 'Alt-Fx' for (usually) F1-F5 will switch to the other
consoles. (Alt-F7 is the console with X on it if that is running.)

6) Switch out of the installer's console into one of the others.

7) You may have to login - not sure about this installer.

8) Linux is similar to HP-UX (any *nix) you should have most of
the commands available that you are used too.

9) try: mount
To get an idea where things are mounted

10) find where: /var/log/dmesg is located.
Find some way to post it on the list.
If you have the machine networked to something else, you
should be able to 'scp' the file to the other machine (if the
other machine is running sshd and the network interface is up).

Mike
> 
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Re: [parisc-linux] HP model 612 hard disk not found

[John David Anglin]

> > But nothing works. 
> > How can i mount it. It has a filesystem of HP-UX.
> > fdisk command doesn't exist

I don't believe that there is support to directly mount HP-UX file
systems (i.e., hfs or vxfs).  One way might be using nfs.

Dave
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Re: [parisc-linux] HP model 612 hard disk not found

[Grant Grundler]

On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 11:29:01AM -0500, John David Anglin wrote:
> > > But nothing works. 
> > > How can i mount it. It has a filesystem of HP-UX.
> > > fdisk command doesn't exist
> 
> I don't believe that there is support to directly mount HP-UX file
> systems (i.e., hfs or vxfs).  One way might be using nfs.

UFS works for HPUX disks the last time I tried it a few years ago.

But, HPUX LVM is incompatible with linux LVM.
Ie the HPUX "HFS" (aka UFS) must be "whole disk".

grant
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Re: [parisc-linux] HP model 612 hard disk not found

[Joel Soete]

Grant Grundler wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 11:29:01AM -0500, John David Anglin wrote:
> 
>>>>But nothing works. 
>>>>How can i mount it. It has a filesystem of HP-UX.
>>>>fdisk command doesn't exist
>>
>>I don't believe that there is support to directly mount HP-UX file
>>systems (i.e., hfs or vxfs).  One way might be using nfs.
> 
> 
> UFS works for HPUX disks the last time I tried it a few years ago.
> 
> But, HPUX LVM is incompatible with linux LVM.
> Ie the HPUX "HFS" (aka UFS) must be "whole disk".
> 
Just to add some fresh test info:
I build such full disk with a hpux-11.00 (bundle dated Dec 2000) on my c110 and tried:
# mount -t ufs /dev/sdc /mnt/UFS-tst
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc,
        missing codepage or other error
        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
        dmesg | tail  or so

dmeg saying:
ufs was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write

I changed:
# mount -t ufs -o ro /dev/sdc /mnt/UFS-tst

even thought it accepts to mount system still complaining:
You didn't specify the type of your ufs filesystem

mount -t ufs -o ufstype=sun|sunx86|44bsd|ufs2|5xbsd|old|hp|nextstep|netxstep-cd|openstep ...

 >>>WARNING<<< Wrong ufstype may corrupt your filesystem, default is ufstype=old
ufs_read_super: can't grok fs_clean 0x17

So finaly it was:
# mount -t ufs -o ufstype=hp -o ro /dev/sdc /mnt/UFS-tst

(ufs_read_super: can't grok fs_clean 0x17 message persist; I assume just a warning)

then reading in such fs seems ok (find all file in kernel tree, tar -tvf of kernel src tar)

Thanks Grant,
	Joel
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