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From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: "Martin J. Bligh" <Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <christoph@lameter.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fw: [PATCH] NUMA Slab Allocator
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:09:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4238845E.5060304@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <273220000.1110999247@[10.10.2.4]>

Martin J. Bligh wrote:

>That'd be my inclination .... but OTOH, we do that for pagecache OK.
>
The page cache doesn't have a global hash table.

> Dunno, 
>I'm torn. Depends if there's locality on the file access or not, I guess.
>Is there any *harm* in doing it node local .... perhaps creating a node
>mem pressure imbalance (OTOH, there's loads of stuff that does that anyway ;-))
>
>  
>
The harm is slower kmem_cache_free and a lower hit ratio for the per-cpu 
caches: kmem_cache_free must identify and return wrong node objects, and 
due to these returns, the per-cpu array is more often empty in 
kmem_cache_alloc.

IIRC someone from SGI wrote that they have seen bad performance in 
fork-bomb tests on large cpu count systems which might be caused by 
inter-node traffic on the mm_struct structure and that they think that a 
numa aware allocator would help. As far as I know no tests were done to 
very that assumption.

--
    Manfred

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From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: "Martin J. Bligh" <Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <christoph@lameter.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fw: [PATCH] NUMA Slab Allocator
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:09:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4238845E.5060304@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <273220000.1110999247@[10.10.2.4]>

Martin J. Bligh wrote:

>That'd be my inclination .... but OTOH, we do that for pagecache OK.
>
The page cache doesn't have a global hash table.

> Dunno, 
>I'm torn. Depends if there's locality on the file access or not, I guess.
>Is there any *harm* in doing it node local .... perhaps creating a node
>mem pressure imbalance (OTOH, there's loads of stuff that does that anyway ;-))
>
>  
>
The harm is slower kmem_cache_free and a lower hit ratio for the per-cpu 
caches: kmem_cache_free must identify and return wrong node objects, and 
due to these returns, the per-cpu array is more often empty in 
kmem_cache_alloc.

IIRC someone from SGI wrote that they have seen bad performance in 
fork-bomb tests on large cpu count systems which might be caused by 
inter-node traffic on the mm_struct structure and that they think that a 
numa aware allocator would help. As far as I know no tests were done to 
very that assumption.

--
    Manfred
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-16 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20050315204110.6664771d.akpm@osdl.org>
2005-03-16 18:34 ` Fw: [PATCH] NUMA Slab Allocator Manfred Spraul
2005-03-16 18:34   ` Manfred Spraul
2005-03-16 18:54   ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-03-16 18:54     ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-03-16 19:09     ` Manfred Spraul [this message]
2005-03-16 19:09       ` Manfred Spraul
2005-03-30  5:30       ` API changes to the slab allocator for NUMA memory allocation Christoph Lameter
2005-03-30  5:30         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-03-30  5:30         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-03-30  5:56         ` Manfred Spraul
2005-03-30  5:56           ` Manfred Spraul
2005-03-30  5:56           ` Manfred Spraul
2005-03-30 15:55           ` Christoph Lameter
2005-03-30 15:55             ` Christoph Lameter
2005-03-30 15:55             ` Christoph Lameter
2005-03-30 17:55             ` Manfred Spraul
2005-03-30 17:55               ` Manfred Spraul
2005-03-30 18:13               ` Christoph Lameter
2005-03-30 18:13                 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-03-30 18:13                 ` Christoph Lameter

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