Elvis and crontab

Elvis and crontab

[Peter]

Hi,

In slackware, crontab is using elvis as the editor instead of vim and I can't 
make heads or tails out of it.

Does anybody know how to change this from elvis to vim or better yet to a more 
user friendly editor?

Thanks & regards
-- 
Peter

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Re: Elvis and crontab

[Ray Olszewski]

At 01:41 PM 3/29/2005 +0800, Peter wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In slackware, crontab is using elvis as the editor instead of vim and I can't
>make heads or tails out of it.
>
>Does anybody know how to change this from elvis to vim or better yet to a 
>more
>user friendly editor?


I don't know about Slackware specifically, but the usual way applications 
get the identity of your editor is from an environment variable called 
(duh) "EDITOR". Check your setting for this with the "env" command. If you 
need to change it, do so in any convenient config script (e.g., .bashrc) 
the usual way. User friendliness is, to a degree, in the eye of the user, 
so I don't really know what you have in mind, but a wide range of editors 
can work this way.

You might also want to check what "vi" on your system is a symlink to. I 
seem to recall that Slackware, way back when (I probably quit using 
Slackware 8 years ago, around the time of 4.0), used elvis as its stock vi 
replacement. You can make any other vi-like app "your" vi simply by 
changing this symlink. (I did this on my Debian systems, replacing the 
annoying, at least to me, nvi with vim. The Debian setup is a bit more 
involved than what I described here, so it is possible you will find that 
Slack too has become more tangled than it once was, perhaps requiring you 
to follow a string os symlinks instead of the single layer I described.)





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Re: Elvis and crontab

[Peter]

Thanks Ray,

symlink to vim instead of elvis did it.

Regards
-- 
Peter

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Re: Elvis and crontab

[chuck gelm]

Ray Olszewski wrote:
> At 01:41 PM 3/29/2005 +0800, Peter wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> In slackware, crontab is using elvis as the editor instead of vim and 
>> I can't
>> make heads or tails out of it.
>>
>> Does anybody know how to change this from elvis to vim or better yet 
>> to a more
>> user friendly editor?
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know about Slackware specifically, but the usual way 
> applications get the identity of your editor is from an environment 
> variable called (duh) "EDITOR". Check your setting for this with the 
> "env" command. If you need to change it, do so in any convenient config 
> script (e.g., .bashrc) the usual way. User friendliness is, to a degree, 
> in the eye of the user, so I don't really know what you have in mind, 
> but a wide range of editors can work this way.
> 
> You might also want to check what "vi" on your system is a symlink to. I 
> seem to recall that Slackware, way back when (I probably quit using 
> Slackware 8 years ago, around the time of 4.0), used elvis as its stock 
> vi replacement. You can make any other vi-like app "your" vi simply by 
> changing this symlink. (I did this on my Debian systems, replacing the 
> annoying, at least to me, nvi with vim. The Debian setup is a bit more 
> involved than what I described here, so it is possible you will find 
> that Slack too has become more tangled than it once was, perhaps 
> requiring you to follow a string os symlinks instead of the single layer 
> I described.)

Slackware v9.1:

/usr/bin/ex -> elvis
"        vi -> elvis

and eleven other 'soft' links to 'vim'

;-)
Chuck

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Re: Elvis and crontab

[J.]

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, chuck gelm wrote:

> Ray Olszewski wrote:
> > At 01:41 PM 3/29/2005 +0800, Peter wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> In slackware, crontab is using elvis as the editor instead of vim and 
> >> I can't
> >> make heads or tails out of it.
> >>
> >> Does anybody know how to change this from elvis to vim or better yet 
> >> to a more
> >> user friendly editor?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I don't know about Slackware specifically, but the usual way 
> > applications get the identity of your editor is from an environment 
> > variable called (duh) "EDITOR". Check your setting for this with the 
> > "env" command. If you need to change it, do so in any convenient config 
> > script (e.g., .bashrc) the usual way. User friendliness is, to a degree, 
> > in the eye of the user, so I don't really know what you have in mind, 
> > but a wide range of editors can work this way.
> > 
> > You might also want to check what "vi" on your system is a symlink to. I 
> > seem to recall that Slackware, way back when (I probably quit using 
> > Slackware 8 years ago, around the time of 4.0), used elvis as its stock 
> > vi replacement. You can make any other vi-like app "your" vi simply by 
> > changing this symlink. (I did this on my Debian systems, replacing the 
> > annoying, at least to me, nvi with vim. The Debian setup is a bit more 
> > involved than what I described here, so it is possible you will find 
> > that Slack too has become more tangled than it once was, perhaps 
> > requiring you to follow a string os symlinks instead of the single layer 
> > I described.)
> 
> Slackware v9.1:
> 
> /usr/bin/ex -> elvis
> "        vi -> elvis
> 
> and eleven other 'soft' links to 'vim'
> 
> ;-)
> Chuck

Hmm.. That's weird, only 2 links to elvis ?.. 
According to google there should be 8,340,000 'soft' links to elvis. 

Are you sure, you installed slack correctly ?

;-)

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Re: Elvis and crontab

[J.]

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Peter wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> In slackware, crontab is using elvis as the editor instead of vim and I can't 
> make heads or tails out of it.
> 
> Does anybody know how to change this from elvis to vim or better yet to a more 
> user friendly editor?
> 
> Thanks & regards
> -- 
> Peter

Change and export the appropiate EDITOR variable in the init files of
your shell. For the bash shell, in your .bashrc .
 export EDITOR=vim

After that either re login or source the change file:
~: source .bashrc

Quality is nothing more then the demands someone has of something, same
goes for user friendlyness. According to my def. of user-friendly VIM is
very userfriendly. You only need to know three to four keystroke commands
to make it all work. Surely those four commands can't be much of a problem
?

J.

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