FC3 server -> Solaris client, directories come and go

FC3 server -> Solaris client, directories come and go

[Steven A. Falco]

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I'm having a problem with directories "disappearing" using a Fedora 3 
NFS server and a solaris 5.10 client (NFS v3).  When I first cd into the 
directory, an ls shows what I expect.  If I then wait an hour and redo 
the ls, I get:

    .: No such file or directory

If I then do a pwd, followed by another ls, the diretory contents 
reappear.  For example:

    solara$ ls
    .: No such file or directory
    solara$ pwd
    /proj/videorunner/hw/vr_enc/cae/PLD/lbenc/src
    solara$ ls
    AUDX_NEW/                  mt48lc8m16a2_.vhd
    FLYWHEEL_DEC/              outdata0.txt

I captured the NFS traffic with ethereal.  When I do the initial ls, the 
sequence is a series of LOOKUP calls (walking the pathname) followed by 
a READDIRPLUS call to obtain the file names.

When I later do the ls, an ACCESS call is issued, and that call returns 
ERR_NOENT.  This is the first ACCESS call that I see in the trace.  
After the pwd, when the ls works, I instead see a series of LOOKUPs that 
again traverses the pathname, followed by LOOKUPs for all the filenames 
in the directory (so obviously the directory contents were cached in the 
solaris machine).  So apparently, the ACCESS calls fail, but they are 
only issued by solaris in certain circumstances, in this case when doing 
an ls in a window that has been idle for an hour.

Curiously, all the permissions in the directories of the pathname 
include world read/execute, so I don't understand why the ACCESS call 
would return ERR_NOENT.  Also, if there were a permissions problem, I 
would expect that to show up during the initial cd into the directory.

I have not found anything like this in the archives.  Has anyone else 
seen this, and if so, are there any fixes/workarounds?  I can post all 
or part of the ethereal traces if that would help.

    Steve Falco


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Re: FC3 server -> Solaris client, directories come and go

[Peter Åstrand]

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On Mon, 2 May 2005, Steven A. Falco wrote:

> I'm having a problem with directories "disappearing" using a Fedora 3 NFS 
> server and a solaris 5.10 client (NFS v3).  When I first cd into the 
> directory, an ls shows what I expect.  If I then wait an hour and redo the 
> ls, I get:

This bug is in Red Hats Bugzilla: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=150759. This is a 
big problem for us as well.


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Re: FC3 server -> Solaris client, directories come and go

[Kris Vassallo]

Would this same bug cause the issue where linux clients would start =
getting ESTALE ERRORS randomly?
-Kris

-----Original Message-----
From:  Peter =C5strand
Date:  5/2/05 10:49 am
To:  Steven A. Falco
Cc:  NFS List 
Subj:  Re: [NFS] FC3 server -> Solaris client, directories come and go

On Mon, 2 May 2005, Steven A. Falco wrote:

> I'm having a problem with directories "disappearing" using a Fedora 3 =
NFS 
> server and a solaris 5.10 client (NFS v3).  When I first cd into the 
> directory, an ls shows what I expect.  If I then wait an hour and redo=
 the 
> ls, I get:

This bug is in Red Hats Bugzilla: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D150759. This is a=
 
big problem for us as well.


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Peter =C5strand		Chief Developer
Cendio			www.thinlinc.com
Teknikringen 3		www.cendio.se
583 30 Link=F6ping        Phone: +46-13-21 46 00


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Re: FC3 server -> Solaris client, directories come and go

[Steve Dickson]

Peter =C5strand wrote:
> On Mon, 2 May 2005, Steven A. Falco wrote:
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>> I'm having a problem with directories "disappearing" using a Fedora 3=20
>> NFS server and a solaris 5.10 client (NFS v3).  When I first cd into=20
>> the directory, an ls shows what I expect.  If I then wait an hour and=20
>> redo the ls, I get:
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> This bug is in Red Hats Bugzilla:=20
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D150759. This is =
a=20
> big problem for us as well.

yes.. we have been looking into this... just curious what local
filesystem are you using? ext3?

steved.



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