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* RE: Latest xen-unstable on IBM x440
@ 2005-05-04 21:06 Nakajima, Jun
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Nakajima, Jun @ 2005-05-04 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: natasha, Keir Fraser; +Cc: xen-devel

Natasha Jarymowycz wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 12:06:40 -0700, Nakajima, Jun
> <jun.nakajima@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> My point is that it looks like the keyboard is broken now, and it has
>> nothing to do with ACPI (PCI interrupt routing) if it's PS/2. The
>> plan for acpi=off is to use PIC mode, which is not desirable for a
>> server like IBM x440.
> 
> Perhaps I oversimplified by saying "the keyboard doesn't work".  The
> keyboard is actually attached to an RCM connected via ethernet to the
> x440.  However, that was not really the point.
> 
> The point was that without specifying acpi=force, XenLinux will not
> boot.  XenLinux can not find a root filesystem.  Scsi devices are not
> properly detected.   It is my hope that this can be used as a
> datapoint to aid in determining the work which still needs to be done
> so that one day XenLinux will run on machines as easily and as well
> as Linux does.

Arun's patch allows one to set "acpi=force" for dom0 xenlinux, fulling
enabbling ACPI in dom0 up to the level where the native Linux supports.
What's missing there is to fall back to MPS, which is required for
"acpi=ht".

Jun
 
> 
> Natasha

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* RE: Latest xen-unstable on IBM x440
@ 2005-05-04 19:06 Nakajima, Jun
  2005-05-04 20:03 ` Natasha Jarymowycz
  2005-05-05  8:11 ` Keir Fraser
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Nakajima, Jun @ 2005-05-04 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Keir Fraser; +Cc: natasha, xen-devel

Keir Fraser wrote:
> On 4 May 2005, at 19:00, Nakajima, Jun wrote:
> 
>> As far as I remember, acpi=ht and acpi=off means different things.
>> What IBM x440 requires is "acpi=ht", which uses ACPI tables to get
>> logical CPUs (for HT), and uses MPS to get PCI interrupt routing
>> info. 
> 
> For interrupt routing, which is what breaks, I think it is equivalent
> to acpi=off. We've fixed quite a few issues with the patch already,
> but haven't yet dug into apic.c and io_apic.c -- I think those two
> are the key to successfully booting non-acpi. I don't think it will
> be that tricky either -- mostly a case of carefully adding back code
> that was removed because it isn't used when using ACPI for irq
> routing. 

My point is that it looks like the keyboard is broken now, and it has
nothing to do with ACPI (PCI interrupt routing) if it's PS/2. The plan
for acpi=off is to use PIC mode, which is not desirable for a server
like IBM x440.

Jun

> 
>   -- Keir

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* RE: Latest xen-unstable on IBM x440
@ 2005-05-04 18:00 Nakajima, Jun
  2005-05-04 18:56 ` Keir Fraser
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Nakajima, Jun @ 2005-05-04 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: natasha, xen-devel

Natasha Jarymowycz wrote:
> The IBM eserver x440 is one of the machines which Linux forces
> to run with acpi=ht.  This doesn't work with Xen, presumably
> because "acpi=off to support machines with broken or no acpi support"
> is functionality not yet provided.  If I boot with acpi=force,
> I can make it through the full boot sequence but the keyboard
> doesn't work though I can log in over the net.  If I don't boot
> with acpi=force then Linux can't find a root fs under Xen.
> 
> I have two questions:
> 1. When will acpi=off support be added to Xen?

As far as I remember, acpi=ht and acpi=off means different things. What
IBM x440 requires is "acpi=ht", which uses ACPI tables to get logical
CPUs (for HT), and uses MPS to get PCI interrupt routing info. 

> 2. Does anyone have suggestions for ways to work around this
> problem to get as much functionality as possible?

I think the right thing is to get the keyboard (or maybe BIOS) fixed. Is
that USB keyboard or PS/2 keyboard connected to a USB port? Probably SMI
is happening there. 

Jun

> 
> 
> --Natasha
> 
> 
> 
> 
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* Latest xen-unstable on IBM x440
@ 2005-05-04 17:17 Natasha Jarymowycz
  2005-05-04 17:24 ` Keir Fraser
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Natasha Jarymowycz @ 2005-05-04 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: xen-devel


The IBM eserver x440 is one of the machines which Linux forces
to run with acpi=ht.  This doesn't work with Xen, presumably
because "acpi=off to support machines with broken or no acpi support"
is functionality not yet provided.  If I boot with acpi=force,
I can make it through the full boot sequence but the keyboard
doesn't work though I can log in over the net.  If I don't boot
with acpi=force then Linux can't find a root fs under Xen.

I have two questions:
1. When will acpi=off support be added to Xen?
2. Does anyone have suggestions for ways to work around this
problem to get as much functionality as possible?


--Natasha

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