From: Brian Gerst <bgerst@didntduck.org>
To: Per Liden <per@fukt.bth.se>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 002 release
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 01:22:43 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42815E63.5020508@didntduck.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0505110057550.20513@1-1-2-5a.f.sth.bostream.se>
Per Liden wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2005, Greg KH wrote:
>
>
>>On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 12:17:12AM +0200, Per Liden wrote:
>>
>>>I'd like to get a better understanding of that as well. Why invent a
>>>second on demand module loader when we have kmod? The current approach
>>>feels like a step back to something very similar to the old kerneld.
>>
>>kmod is not used at all if you are running udev on your system.
>
>
> Since when does udev load modules for you? And how would it know when to
> load "device less" modules such as filesystems?
>
>
>>It's also better to allow userspace to make the decision as to if it
>>should load a specific module or not, not the kernel.
>
>
> If you don't want a specific module to be loaded, then don't build it.
> You just said that yourself in the blacklisting dicsussion remember? ;)
> (hint: "Don't build the OSS modules at all?").
Think about distibution kernels that build everything possible.
--
Brian Gerst
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From: Brian Gerst <bgerst@didntduck.org>
To: Per Liden <per@fukt.bth.se>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 002 release
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:22:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42815E63.5020508@didntduck.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0505110057550.20513@1-1-2-5a.f.sth.bostream.se>
Per Liden wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2005, Greg KH wrote:
>
>
>>On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 12:17:12AM +0200, Per Liden wrote:
>>
>>>I'd like to get a better understanding of that as well. Why invent a
>>>second on demand module loader when we have kmod? The current approach
>>>feels like a step back to something very similar to the old kerneld.
>>
>>kmod is not used at all if you are running udev on your system.
>
>
> Since when does udev load modules for you? And how would it know when to
> load "device less" modules such as filesystems?
>
>
>>It's also better to allow userspace to make the decision as to if it
>>should load a specific module or not, not the kernel.
>
>
> If you don't want a specific module to be loaded, then don't build it.
> You just said that yourself in the blacklisting dicsussion remember? ;)
> (hint: "Don't build the OSS modules at all?").
Think about distibution kernels that build everything possible.
--
Brian Gerst
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-11 1:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-06 21:22 [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 002 release Greg KH
2005-05-06 21:22 ` Greg KH
2005-05-08 22:52 ` Per Liden
2005-05-08 22:52 ` Per Liden
2005-05-09 21:13 ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-09 21:13 ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-10 22:17 ` Per Liden
2005-05-10 22:17 ` Per Liden
2005-05-10 22:41 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 22:41 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 23:56 ` Per Liden
2005-05-10 23:56 ` Per Liden
2005-05-11 1:22 ` Brian Gerst [this message]
2005-05-11 1:22 ` Brian Gerst
2005-05-11 5:33 ` Greg KH
2005-05-11 5:33 ` Greg KH
2005-05-11 17:36 ` Per Liden
2005-05-11 17:41 ` Greg KH
2005-05-18 23:00 ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-18 23:00 ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-18 23:00 ` [PATCH][RFC] __request_module: fixed argument request_module with waitflag Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-18 23:00 ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-18 23:01 ` [PATCH][RFC] request_modalias: MODALIAS based module loading Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-18 23:01 ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-18 23:37 ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-10 22:41 ` [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 002 release Greg KH
2005-05-10 22:41 ` Greg KH
2005-05-12 21:42 ` Greg KH
2005-05-12 21:42 ` Greg KH
2005-05-13 8:19 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-05-13 8:19 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-05-13 16:02 ` Greg KH
2005-05-13 16:02 ` Greg KH
2005-05-13 23:21 ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-13 23:21 ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-14 5:59 ` Greg KH
2005-05-14 5:59 ` Greg KH
2005-05-15 22:37 ` Per Svennerbrandt
2005-05-18 9:27 ` David Weinehall
2005-05-18 9:27 ` David Weinehall
2005-05-09 23:22 ` Greg KH
2005-05-09 23:22 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 21:51 ` Per Liden
2005-05-10 21:51 ` Per Liden
2005-05-11 5:36 ` Greg KH
2005-05-11 5:36 ` Greg KH
2005-05-09 3:57 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-09 3:57 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-09 23:21 ` Greg KH
2005-05-09 23:21 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 9:29 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-10 9:29 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-10 9:43 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 9:43 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 12:58 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-05-10 12:58 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2005-05-10 17:24 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 17:24 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 20:13 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 20:13 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 20:28 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-10 20:28 ` Lee Revell
2005-05-10 20:59 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 20:59 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 21:02 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 21:02 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 20:31 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 20:31 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 20:52 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 20:52 ` Greg KH
2005-05-10 20:59 ` Bill Nottingham
2005-05-10 20:59 ` Bill Nottingham
2005-05-10 21:08 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 21:08 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-10 21:22 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-10 21:22 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-10 23:55 ` [PATCH] " Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-10 23:55 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-11 0:05 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-11 0:05 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-11 5:40 ` Greg KH
2005-05-11 5:40 ` Greg KH
2005-05-11 0:08 ` [PATCH] " Rusty Russell
2005-05-11 0:08 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11 1:11 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-11 1:11 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-11 3:39 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11 3:39 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11 9:59 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-11 9:59 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-11 10:52 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11 10:52 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11 10:58 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-11 10:58 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-11 13:06 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-11 13:06 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-12 4:39 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-12 4:39 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-12 7:47 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-12 7:47 ` Erik van Konijnenburg
2005-05-10 21:21 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2005-05-11 0:01 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11 0:01 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11 0:10 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-11 0:10 ` Marco d'Itri
2005-05-11 1:09 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11 1:09 ` Rusty Russell
2005-05-11 7:31 ` Christian Zoz
2005-05-14 23:02 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-05-14 23:02 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-05-16 19:11 ` Greg KH
2005-05-16 19:11 ` Greg KH
2005-05-16 21:24 ` Marco d'Itri
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2005-05-11 2:04 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-11 2:04 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-05-18 7:23 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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