* NFS High Availability Cluster @ 2005-06-13 9:55 Oded Maimon 2005-06-13 11:47 ` btinsley 2005-06-13 18:10 ` Dan Stromberg 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Oded Maimon @ 2005-06-13 9:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: nfs Hi, Is it possible to set an NFS HA cluster? That means, that several servers will share the same disks in a SAN and will provide an NFS service for all my other servers? I need that when one NFS server will fail (or the network connection to it) then no server using the NFS will be affected and will continue to work with one of the other NFS servers. Is it possible? Thanks, Oded. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 _______________________________________________ NFS maillist - NFS@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nfs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: NFS High Availability Cluster 2005-06-13 9:55 NFS High Availability Cluster Oded Maimon @ 2005-06-13 11:47 ` btinsley 2005-06-13 18:10 ` Dan Stromberg 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: btinsley @ 2005-06-13 11:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: nfs To get started, see: http://wiki.linux-ha.org/HaNFS On 6/13/05, Oded Maimon <oded.maimon@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Is it possible to set an NFS HA cluster? >=20 > That means, that several servers will share the same disks in a SAN and > will provide an NFS service for >=20 > all my other servers? >=20 >=20 > I need that when one NFS server will fail (or the network connection to > it) then no server using the NFS will be affected and will continue to >=20 > work with one of the other NFS servers. >=20 >=20 > Is it possible? >=20 >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Oded. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you sho= tput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge t= rack? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=3D20 > _______________________________________________ > NFS maillist - NFS@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nfs > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 _______________________________________________ NFS maillist - NFS@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nfs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: NFS High Availability Cluster 2005-06-13 9:55 NFS High Availability Cluster Oded Maimon 2005-06-13 11:47 ` btinsley @ 2005-06-13 18:10 ` Dan Stromberg 2005-06-13 20:13 ` Oded Maimon 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Dan Stromberg @ 2005-06-13 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Oded Maimon; +Cc: strombrg, nfs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1636 bytes --] I'm told that the current generation of automounter should be able to failover readonly versions of the same data. What we've been doing so far with linux, though, is to have a script that, instead of using fstab, instead traceroute's each of the replica servers and statically NFS mounts from the one that is up, and shows the lowest number of router hops. The autofs failover should obviate reboots, at least to some extent. The script I've described, which I'd be happy to share, makes it so endusers can just reboot to come up mounting from a different replica. On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 11:55 +0200, Oded Maimon wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to set an NFS HA cluster? > > That means, that several servers will share the same disks in a SAN and > will provide an NFS service for > > all my other servers? > > > I need that when one NFS server will fail (or the network connection to > it) then no server using the NFS will be affected and will continue to > > work with one of the other NFS servers. > > > Is it possible? > > > Thanks, > > Oded. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > _______________________________________________ > NFS maillist - NFS@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nfs > [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: NFS High Availability Cluster 2005-06-13 18:10 ` Dan Stromberg @ 2005-06-13 20:13 ` Oded Maimon 2005-06-13 20:19 ` Dan Stromberg 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Oded Maimon @ 2005-06-13 20:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dan Stromberg, nfs Hi, I'm looking for a solution that will not make me reboot or even remount the file system (unless the remount is autmatically)... what the reason that the automounter will do this only for read only data? Thanks, Oded. Dan Stromberg wrote: >I'm told that the current generation of automounter should be able to >failover readonly versions of the same data. > >What we've been doing so far with linux, though, is to have a script >that, instead of using fstab, instead traceroute's each of the replica >servers and statically NFS mounts from the one that is up, and shows the >lowest number of router hops. > >The autofs failover should obviate reboots, at least to some extent. > >The script I've described, which I'd be happy to share, makes it so >endusers can just reboot to come up mounting from a different replica. > >On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 11:55 +0200, Oded Maimon wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>Is it possible to set an NFS HA cluster? >> >>That means, that several servers will share the same disks in a SAN and >>will provide an NFS service for >> >>all my other servers? >> >> >>I need that when one NFS server will fail (or the network connection to >>it) then no server using the NFS will be affected and will continue to >> >>work with one of the other NFS servers. >> >> >>Is it possible? >> >> >>Thanks, >> >>Oded. >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput >>a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? >>If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. >>Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 >>_______________________________________________ >>NFS maillist - NFS@lists.sourceforge.net >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nfs >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 _______________________________________________ NFS maillist - NFS@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nfs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: NFS High Availability Cluster 2005-06-13 20:13 ` Oded Maimon @ 2005-06-13 20:19 ` Dan Stromberg 2005-06-13 22:53 ` Oded Maimon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Dan Stromberg @ 2005-06-13 20:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Oded Maimon; +Cc: strombrg, nfs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3022 bytes --] I've only heard of doing this with readonly data, but that's probably because multiple systems with the same "local filesystem" (in the SAN sense) is becoming more common recently. If your SAN solution will resolve any concurrent-access problems you might have otherwise with multiple systems accessing the same filesystem blocks via the SAN, then you likely could have autofs do failover for readwrite (unless the automounter were arbitrarily restricted). But to get this, it's entirely possible that you would have to use a special filesystem that is designed to handle multiple, "local", concurrent writers and readers, since to the OS, SAN blocks look a lot like local disk blocks, and you can't have two filesystems trying to access the same disk blocks concurrently, normally - otherwise, without automatic updates, you could end up with a corrupted filesystem. On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 22:13 +0200, Oded Maimon wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a solution that will not make me reboot or even remount > the file system (unless the remount is autmatically)... > > > what the reason that the automounter will do this only for read only data? > > > Thanks, > > Oded. > > > Dan Stromberg wrote: > > >I'm told that the current generation of automounter should be able to > >failover readonly versions of the same data. > > > >What we've been doing so far with linux, though, is to have a script > >that, instead of using fstab, instead traceroute's each of the replica > >servers and statically NFS mounts from the one that is up, and shows the > >lowest number of router hops. > > > >The autofs failover should obviate reboots, at least to some extent. > > > >The script I've described, which I'd be happy to share, makes it so > >endusers can just reboot to come up mounting from a different replica. > > > >On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 11:55 +0200, Oded Maimon wrote: > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>Is it possible to set an NFS HA cluster? > >> > >>That means, that several servers will share the same disks in a SAN and > >>will provide an NFS service for > >> > >>all my other servers? > >> > >> > >>I need that when one NFS server will fail (or the network connection to > >>it) then no server using the NFS will be affected and will continue to > >> > >>work with one of the other NFS servers. > >> > >> > >>Is it possible? > >> > >> > >>Thanks, > >> > >>Oded. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput > >>a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? > >>If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > >>Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 > >>_______________________________________________ > >>NFS maillist - NFS@lists.sourceforge.net > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nfs > >> > >> > >> > [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: NFS High Availability Cluster 2005-06-13 20:19 ` Dan Stromberg @ 2005-06-13 22:53 ` Oded Maimon 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Oded Maimon @ 2005-06-13 22:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dan Stromberg; +Cc: nfs Yes, you are right, i will have to use something like GFS on the NFS servers. Dan Stromberg wrote: >I've only heard of doing this with readonly data, but that's probably >because multiple systems with the same "local filesystem" (in the SAN >sense) is becoming more common recently. > >If your SAN solution will resolve any concurrent-access problems you >might have otherwise with multiple systems accessing the same filesystem >blocks via the SAN, then you likely could have autofs do failover for >readwrite (unless the automounter were arbitrarily restricted). > >But to get this, it's entirely possible that you would have to use a >special filesystem that is designed to handle multiple, "local", >concurrent writers and readers, since to the OS, SAN blocks look a lot >like local disk blocks, and you can't have two filesystems trying to >access the same disk blocks concurrently, normally - otherwise, without >automatic updates, you could end up with a corrupted filesystem. > >On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 22:13 +0200, Oded Maimon wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I'm looking for a solution that will not make me reboot or even remount >>the file system (unless the remount is autmatically)... >> >> >>what the reason that the automounter will do this only for read only data? >> >> >>Thanks, >> >>Oded. >> >> >>Dan Stromberg wrote: >> >> >> >>>I'm told that the current generation of automounter should be able to >>>failover readonly versions of the same data. >>> >>>What we've been doing so far with linux, though, is to have a script >>>that, instead of using fstab, instead traceroute's each of the replica >>>servers and statically NFS mounts from the one that is up, and shows the >>>lowest number of router hops. >>> >>>The autofs failover should obviate reboots, at least to some extent. >>> >>>The script I've described, which I'd be happy to share, makes it so >>>endusers can just reboot to come up mounting from a different replica. >>> >>>On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 11:55 +0200, Oded Maimon wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>Is it possible to set an NFS HA cluster? >>>> >>>>That means, that several servers will share the same disks in a SAN and >>>>will provide an NFS service for >>>> >>>>all my other servers? >>>> >>>> >>>>I need that when one NFS server will fail (or the network connection to >>>>it) then no server using the NFS will be affected and will continue to >>>> >>>>work with one of the other NFS servers. >>>> >>>> >>>>Is it possible? >>>> >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>> >>>>Oded. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>>This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput >>>>a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? >>>>If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. >>>>Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>NFS maillist - NFS@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nfs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How far can you shotput a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge track? If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 _______________________________________________ NFS maillist - NFS@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nfs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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