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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	David Teigland <teigland@redhat.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-cluster@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] GFS
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:00:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42F01712.2030105@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1122994972.3247.31.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:

>On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 16:57 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>  
>
>>>* Why use your own journalling layer and not say ... jbd ?
>>>      
>>>
>>Why does reiser use its own journalling layer and not say ... jbd ?
>>    
>>
>
>because reiser got merged before jbd. Next question.
>  
>
That is the wrong reason.  We use our own journaling layer for the
reason that Vivaldi used his own melody.

I don't know anything about GFS, but expecting a filesystem author to
use a journaling layer he does not want to is a bit arrogant.  Now, if
you got into details, and said jbd does X, Y and Z, and GFS does the
same X and Y, and does not do Z as well as jbd, that would be a more
serious comment.  He might want to look at how reiser4 does wandering
logs instead of using jbd..... but I would never claim that for sure
some other author should be expected to use it.....  and something like
changing one's journaling system is not something to do just before a
merge.....

>Now the question for GFS is still a valid one; there might be reasons to
>not use it (which is fair enough) but if there's no real reason then
>using jdb sounds a lot better given it's maturity (and it is used by 2
>filesystems in -mm already).
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-03  1:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-02  7:18 [PATCH 00/14] GFS David Teigland
2005-08-02  7:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-02 14:57   ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-08-02 15:02     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-03  1:00       ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2005-08-03  4:07         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-03  6:37           ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-08-03  9:09         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-03  3:56   ` David Teigland
2005-08-03  9:17     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-03 10:08       ` David Teigland
2005-08-03 10:37     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-03 18:54       ` Mark Fasheh
2005-08-05  7:14   ` David Teigland
2005-08-05  7:27     ` [Linux-cluster] " Mike Christie
2005-08-05  7:30       ` Mike Christie
2005-08-05  7:34     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-05  9:44       ` David Teigland
2005-08-05 10:07         ` Jörn Engel
2005-08-05 10:31           ` David Teigland
2005-08-05  8:28     ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-08-05  8:34       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-08  6:26     ` David Teigland
2005-08-11  6:06   ` David Teigland
2005-08-11  6:55     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-02 10:16 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-08-03  6:36   ` David Teigland
2005-08-08 14:14     ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-08 18:32       ` GFS Zach Brown
2005-08-09 14:49         ` GFS Pekka Enberg
2005-08-09 17:17           ` GFS Zach Brown
2005-08-09 18:35             ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-10  4:48             ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-10  7:21           ` GFS Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-10  7:31             ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-10 16:26               ` GFS Mark Fasheh
2005-08-10 16:57                 ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-10 18:21                   ` GFS Mark Fasheh
2005-08-10 20:18                     ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-10 22:07                       ` GFS Mark Fasheh
2005-08-11  4:41                         ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-10  5:59       ` GFS David Teigland
2005-08-10  6:06         ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-03  6:44 ` [PATCH 00/14] GFS Pekka Enberg
2005-08-08  9:57   ` David Teigland
2005-08-08 10:00     ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-08 10:05     ` [PATCH 00/14] GFS Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-08 10:20       ` Jörn Engel
2005-08-08 10:18     ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-08 10:56       ` GFS David Teigland
2005-08-08 10:57         ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-08 11:39           ` GFS David Teigland
2005-08-08 10:34     ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-09 14:55     ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-10  7:40     ` GFS Pekka J Enberg
2005-08-10  7:43       ` GFS Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-09 15:20 ` [PATCH 00/14] GFS Al Viro
2005-08-10  7:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-10 10:30     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-10 10:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-10 10:34         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-10 10:54           ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-10 11:02             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-10 11:05               ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-10 11:09                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-08-10 11:11                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-08-10 13:26                     ` [Linux-cluster] " AJ Lewis
2005-08-10 15:43                       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-11  8:17 ` GFS - updated patches David Teigland
2005-08-11  8:21   ` [Linux-cluster] " Michael
2005-08-11  8:46     ` David Teigland
2005-08-11  8:49       ` Michael
2005-08-11  8:32   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-11  8:50     ` David Teigland
2005-08-11  8:50       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-08-11  9:16         ` David Teigland
2005-08-11 10:04           ` Pekka Enberg
2005-08-11  9:54   ` [Linux-cluster] " Michael
2005-08-11 10:00     ` Pekka Enberg
     [not found] <20050802071828.GA11217@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-08-03 14:33 ` [PATCH 00/14] GFS Andi Kleen
2005-08-07 11:52   ` Alan Cox

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