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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Yasuyuki KOZAKAI <yasuyuki.kozakai@toshiba.co.jp>
Cc: laforge@netfilter.org, netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org,
	usagi-core@linux-ipv6.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH NF_CONNTRACK] compatible ipt_conntrack
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 23:01:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <431377B2.9080102@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200508291539.j7TFdujr019558@toshiba.co.jp>

Yasuyuki KOZAKAI wrote:
> Hi, Patrick, Harald,
> 
> From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:14:49 +0200
> 
> 
>>I feel reluctant to add complexity just so users can switch between
>>them at runtime. It may be useful for debugging, but it doesn't look
>>like a realistic usage scenario. So I would also prefer having a
>>compile-time choice.
> 
> I re-read old mails, and I seemed to mis-understand your intention.
> I was trying to make possible to compile both of ip_conntrack and
> nf_conntrack as module, and let user choose "Which is linked with match/target
> modules ?". But your opinion was that user choose ip_conntrack or
> nf_conntrack to compile, right ?

Yes, sorry for not beeing clearer on this before. I was always
more in favour of a compile-time solution, but would also be
fine with a simple and cleanly working run-time solution. But
I believe any extra-complexity for a run-time solution comes
with little gain for the user.

> Then, let user choose ip_conntrack/nf_conntrack to compile.
> 
> From: Harald Welte <laforge@netfilter.org>
> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:21:30 +0200
> 
> 
>>1) ip_conntrack and nf_conntrack can never be used both together in one
>>   system.  However, you can compile both of them as modules, and then
>>   decide to load one or the other.
> 
> The drawback of compile-time choice is that user cannot use ip_conntrack
> for IPv4 NAT and use nf_conntrack for only IPv6 stateful tracking. This is the
> reason why I tried above thing, but I changed my mind. This will not be
> problem because IPv4 NAT with nf_conntrack would be implemented in future,
> I think.

I agree, even if it is a problem, it will only be short-term.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-08-29 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-20  9:19 [PATCH NF_CONNTRACK] compatible ipt_conntrack Yasuyuki KOZAKAI
2005-08-28 12:21 ` Harald Welte
2005-08-29 11:14   ` Patrick McHardy
     [not found]     ` <200508291539.j7TFduLF019555@toshiba.co.jp>
2005-08-29 15:49       ` Harald Welte
2005-08-30  6:40         ` Yasuyuki KOZAKAI
     [not found]     ` <200508291539.j7TFdujr019558@toshiba.co.jp>
2005-08-29 21:01       ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2005-08-29 21:57     ` David S. Miller
2005-08-29 22:09       ` Patrick McHardy
2005-08-29 15:39   ` Yasuyuki KOZAKAI

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