3.0-testing Status

3.0-testing Status

[Anthony Liguori]

Hey Ian,

I was curious if there's an estimation on when 3.0-testing is going to 
be declared?  Is there a list of things that are outstanding before it 
will happen?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

RE: 3.0-testing Status

[Ian Pratt]

> I was curious if there's an estimation on when 3.0-testing is 
> going to be declared?  Is there a list of things that are 
> outstanding before it will happen?

Renaming the -unstable tree would be a fairly pointless exercise so we
haven't done so. We've been operating in 'testing' mode for some time,
working our way through the issues that are reported (and the ones that
our extensive regression test infrastructure 'XenRT' picks up).

Many of the oustanding issues are to do with the wide variety of
hardware platforms xen is run on. To this end Dan/Chris/Tim have worked
over the summer to create an automated 'test CD'. The CD is by no means
as extensive as XenRT, but is targeted specifically to find h/w platform
issues (does it boot, does network work, video, disks etc). We'll
officially release the CD as soon as there are no platform-related
issues on any of the machines we have access to (which is a fair range).
We're quite close to that. 

As regards when we release 3.0.0, I'd expect to see solid rows of green
'pass' boxes on XenRT, and a set of control tools that work robustly. 

Ian

Re: 3.0-testing Status

[Anthony Liguori]

Ian Pratt wrote:

>>I was curious if there's an estimation on when 3.0-testing is 
>>going to be declared?  Is there a list of things that are 
>>outstanding before it will happen?
>>    
>>
>
>Renaming the -unstable tree would be a fairly pointless exercise so we
>haven't done so. We've been operating in 'testing' mode for some time,
>working our way through the issues that are reported (and the ones that
>our extensive regression test infrastructure 'XenRT' picks up).
>  
>
Ah, excellent, so there will be no 3.0-testing fork?  That's good to 
know.  It had seemed like we had been operating in testing mode :-)

>Many of the oustanding issues are to do with the wide variety of
>hardware platforms xen is run on. To this end Dan/Chris/Tim have worked
>over the summer to create an automated 'test CD'. The CD is by no means
>as extensive as XenRT, but is targeted specifically to find h/w platform
>issues (does it boot, does network work, video, disks etc). We'll
>officially release the CD as soon as there are no platform-related
>issues on any of the machines we have access to (which is a fair range).
>We're quite close to that. 
>  
>
Looking forward to seeing the CD.

Thanks Ian,

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>As regards when we release 3.0.0, I'd expect to see solid rows of green
>'pass' boxes on XenRT, and a set of control tools that work robustly. 
>
>Ian
>
>  
>

Re: 3.0-testing Status

[Sean Dague]

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On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 08:19:27AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Ian Pratt wrote:
> 
> >>I was curious if there's an estimation on when 3.0-testing is 
> >>going to be declared?  Is there a list of things that are 
> >>outstanding before it will happen?
> >
> >Renaming the -unstable tree would be a fairly pointless exercise so we
> >haven't done so. We've been operating in 'testing' mode for some time,
> >working our way through the issues that are reported (and the ones that
> >our extensive regression test infrastructure 'XenRT' picks up).
> >
> Ah, excellent, so there will be no 3.0-testing fork?  That's good to 
> know.  It had seemed like we had been operating in testing mode :-)

I guess the follow up question is what is the freeze process for Xen 3.0
going to be, as even in testing state lots of code is going in which is
regressing some previously working features.

> >Many of the oustanding issues are to do with the wide variety of
> >hardware platforms xen is run on. To this end Dan/Chris/Tim have worked
> >over the summer to create an automated 'test CD'. The CD is by no means
> >as extensive as XenRT, but is targeted specifically to find h/w platform
> >issues (does it boot, does network work, video, disks etc). We'll
> >officially release the CD as soon as there are no platform-related
> >issues on any of the machines we have access to (which is a fair range).
> >We're quite close to that. 
> > 
> >
> Looking forward to seeing the CD.

Me as well. :)


> >As regards when we release 3.0.0, I'd expect to see solid rows of green
> >'pass' boxes on XenRT, and a set of control tools that work robustly. 

Also, are there results from XenRT that can be found anywhere on the web? 
It would be nice to see those colored boxes to know how close we are. :)

	-Sean

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Re: 3.0-testing Status

[Ryan Harper]

* Ian Pratt <m+Ian.Pratt@cl.cam.ac.uk> [2005-09-14 09:03]:
> > I was curious if there's an estimation on when 3.0-testing is 
> > going to be declared?  Is there a list of things that are 
> > outstanding before it will happen?
> 
> Renaming the -unstable tree would be a fairly pointless exercise so we
> haven't done so. We've been operating in 'testing' mode for some time,

Do you have any sort of list of features/bugs that you are tracking?
Also, do you have a list of your criteria for when 3.0 testing is ready
for release?  This sort of information and status would help us
understand where our efforts should be focused.

> working our way through the issues that are reported (and the ones that
> our extensive regression test infrastructure 'XenRT' picks up).

XenRT?  First I've heard of this.  Is it available? source? status?
output?  Anything on the wiki?

> Many of the oustanding issues are to do with the wide variety of
> hardware platforms xen is run on. To this end Dan/Chris/Tim have worked
> over the summer to create an automated 'test CD'. The CD is by no means
> as extensive as XenRT, but is targeted specifically to find h/w platform
> issues (does it boot, does network work, video, disks etc). We'll
> officially release the CD as soon as there are no platform-related
> issues on any of the machines we have access to (which is a fair range).
> We're quite close to that. 

Do any of the xensource guys file bugs in bugzilla regarding these
platform bugs that XenRT is turning up?  Even if they are fixed right
away, it is nice to have a record of issues that were encountered.

I'd also be interested in seen what range of hw you guys are testing
over as well.  


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RE: 3.0-testing Status

[Ian Pratt]

> > >As regards when we release 3.0.0, I'd expect to see solid rows of 
> > >green 'pass' boxes on XenRT, and a set of control tools 
> that work robustly.
> 
> Also, are there results from XenRT that can be found anywhere 
> on the web? 
> It would be nice to see those colored boxes to know how close we are.
:)

James/Tom/Andrew are still adding tests and improving the UI, but the
current scorecard is at:

http://xenbits.xensource.com/xenrt

A username/password is not required to see the test status of currently
shipping hardware platforms (only prototype or pre-release).

Ian

Re: 3.0-testing Status

[Sean Dague]

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On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 09:49:48PM +0100, Ian Pratt wrote:
> 
> > > >As regards when we release 3.0.0, I'd expect to see solid rows of 
> > > >green 'pass' boxes on XenRT, and a set of control tools 
> > that work robustly.
> > 
> > Also, are there results from XenRT that can be found anywhere 
> > on the web? 
> > It would be nice to see those colored boxes to know how close we are.
> :)
> 
> James/Tom/Andrew are still adding tests and improving the UI, but the
> current scorecard is at:
> 
> http://xenbits.xensource.com/xenrt
> 
> A username/password is not required to see the test status of currently
> shipping hardware platforms (only prototype or pre-release).

Looks great!  Any chance in getting the data exported via xml or the like? 
The GUI is pretty and all, but it overfills my screen in many directions and
there is some data I'd like to consolodate out of it without having to write
a screen scraper. :)

	-Sean

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