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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Christian.Limpach@cl.cam.ac.uk
Cc: Xen Tools Developers <xen-tools@lists.xensource.com>,
	Dan Smith <danms@us.ibm.com>,
	Xen Developers <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-tools] Re: [PATCH] Make xend reject duplicates and rename zombies
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:37:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <432B3B13.4070705@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3d8eece205091612523cf7b900@mail.gmail.com>

Christian Limpach wrote:

>On 9/15/05, Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>I think this is not the right solution to the problem at hand.  The
>>problem stems from the fact that xm destroy is just a call to
>>xc_domain_destroy which is really just a request to the hypervisor to
>>destroy the domain.
>>    
>>
>
>Indeed.
>
>  
>
>>Therefore, there is a race condition if you assume that the domain is
>>dead after xm destroy returns.  This patch renames the domain name which
>>prevents a name class but does not solve the general problem.  Consider,
>>for instance, if a domain is using a block device and you do an xm
>>destroy.  It is not safe to create a new domain with that same block
>>device until you know that the previously mentioned domain is gone.
>>    
>>
>
>I think renaming would make sense if a domain is crashed.  You might
>want to keep the domain around to attach a debugger to it but at the
>same time restart a fresh copy as soon as possible.
>  
>
As long as you can make sure to rename *after* all of the devices have 
been properly torn down.

Otherwise, we need to make sure to make it well known that restarting a 
domain after a crash can result in very bad things :-)

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>>This patch would allow:
>>xm destroy xmexample1 && xm create /etc/xen/xmexample1
>>
>>I think the right solution is to make xm destroy not return until the
>>domain has actually gone away and add a flag to xm destroy to return
>>immediately if that behavior is ever desired.
>>    
>>
>
>Sounds good.
>
>  
>
>>I'll work up a patch tonight after class.
>>    
>>
>
>Thanks!
>
>     christian
>
>  
>

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-16 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-15 15:49 [PATCH] Make xend reject duplicates and rename zombies Dan Smith
2005-09-15 18:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2005-09-15 19:16   ` Dan Smith
2005-09-16 14:45     ` Ted Kaczmarek
2005-09-16 19:52   ` [Xen-tools] " Christian Limpach
2005-09-16 21:37     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2005-09-16 21:48       ` Christian Limpach
2005-09-16 21:49         ` Anthony Liguori
2005-09-16 22:19           ` Christian Limpach

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