* silently discarded post
@ 2005-09-29 10:37 Patrick Bennett
2005-09-29 10:50 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
` (13 more replies)
0 siblings, 14 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Bennett @ 2005-09-29 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
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I have a mlmmj 1.2.4-1 mailing list running on a debian+postfix host and one particular user is having trouble posting to it. Every mail he sends is silently filed away into queue/discarded. The address he is emailing from is properly subscribed to the "nomail" part of the list. There is no control/access file. Others, both on the mail-receipt and noreciept lists, are able to post to the list successfully.
Below is a copy of one of the mails that ended up in queue/discarded. Two things catch my eye, I wonder if either of them has something to do with it: 1) his "from" address has a 3-part domain; 2) the "to" address has single quotes around it (he seems to be unable to prevent this in his mailer, and at any rate, postfix was obviously able to handle it...).
No information is showing up in /var/log/syslog|mail.log or mlmmj.operation.log- is there somewhere else I should look? Thoughts anyone?
TIA,
Patrick
~*~*~*~mail.log~*~*~*~
Sep 29 00:04:16 newnorcal postfix/smtpd[17638]: B3BD6382C2: client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
Sep 29 00:04:17 newnorcal postfix/cleanup[17633]: B3BD6382C2: message-id=<1BAAFEA9FFD4D411BB3300805FE685741A0A2647@eddexmb04.cahwnet.gov>
Sep 29 00:04:17 newnorcal postfix/smtpd[17638]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1]
Sep 29 00:04:17 newnorcal postfix/qmgr[17663]: B3BD6382C2: from=<DPatters@edd.ca.gov>, size=1852, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Sep 29 00:04:18 newnorcal postfix/local[17639]: B3BD6382C2: to=<stockton@norcalsolutions.com>, relay=local, delay=2, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/bin/mlmmj-recieve -L /var/spool/mlmmj/stockton/)
Sep 29 00:04:18 newnorcal postfix/qmgr[17663]: B3BD6382C2: removed
~*~*~*~the discarded email~*~*~*~
From DPatters@edd.ca.gov Thu Sep 29 00:04:17 2005
Return-Path: <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
X-Original-To: stockton@norcalsolutions.com
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From: "Patterson, Daniel@EDD" <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
To: "'stockton@cielini.org'" <stockton@cielini.org>
Subject: test email. please ignore
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:08:56 -0700
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5C489.F1BA5994"
X-imss-version: 2.031
X-imss-result: Passed
X-imss-scores: Clean:57.84395 C:2 M:3 S:5 R:5
X-imss-settings: Baseline:3 C:1 M:1 S:2 R:1 (0.5000 0.5000)
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C5C489.F1BA5994
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Danny Patterson
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<META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2658.24">
<TITLE>test email. please ignore</TITLE>
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<P><FONT FACE="Arial">Danny Patterson</FONT>
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
@ 2005-09-29 10:50 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
2005-09-29 11:12 ` Søren Boll Overgaard
` (12 subsequent siblings)
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From: Mads Martin Joergensen @ 2005-09-29 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
* Patrick Bennett <patrick@pebcomputing.com> [Sep 29. 2005 12:47]:
> I have a mlmmj 1.2.4-1 mailing list running on a debian+postfix host
> and one particular user is having trouble posting to it. Every mail
> he sends is silently filed away into queue/discarded. The address he
> is emailing from is properly subscribed to the "nomail" part of the
> list. There is no control/access file. Others, both on the
> mail-receipt and noreciept lists, are able to post to the list
> successfully.
>
> Below is a copy of one of the mails that ended up in queue/discarded.
> Two things catch my eye, I wonder if either of them has something to
> do with it: 1) his "from" address has a 3-part domain; 2) the "to"
> address has single quotes around it (he seems to be unable to prevent
> this in his mailer, and at any rate, postfix was obviously able to
> handle it...).
Can you try and reproduce with mlmmj-1.2.8?
--
Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
-- A. P. J.
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
2005-09-29 10:50 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
@ 2005-09-29 11:12 ` Søren Boll Overgaard
2005-09-29 11:16 ` Sven 'Darkman' Michels
` (11 subsequent siblings)
13 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Søren Boll Overgaard @ 2005-09-29 11:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 12:50:24PM +0200, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:
> * Patrick Bennett <patrick@pebcomputing.com> [Sep 29. 2005 12:47]:
> > I have a mlmmj 1.2.4-1 mailing list running on a debian+postfix host
> > and one particular user is having trouble posting to it. Every mail
> > he sends is silently filed away into queue/discarded. The address he
> > is emailing from is properly subscribed to the "nomail" part of the
> > list. There is no control/access file. Others, both on the
> > mail-receipt and noreciept lists, are able to post to the list
> > successfully.
> >
> > Below is a copy of one of the mails that ended up in queue/discarded.
> > Two things catch my eye, I wonder if either of them has something to
> > do with it: 1) his "from" address has a 3-part domain; 2) the "to"
> > address has single quotes around it (he seems to be unable to prevent
> > this in his mailer, and at any rate, postfix was obviously able to
> > handle it...).
>
> Can you try and reproduce with mlmmj-1.2.8?
The 1.2.4-1 version of mlmmj is the one currently in the stable branch of
Debian, and the 1.2.8-7 version in unstable probably won't install on a host
running stable.
If it would help, I will be happy to provide a backported version of 1.2.8 that works on Debian stable.
--
Søren O. ,''`.
: :' :
GPG key id: 0x1EB2DE66 `. `'
GPG signed mail preferred. `-
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
2005-09-29 10:50 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
2005-09-29 11:12 ` Søren Boll Overgaard
@ 2005-09-29 11:16 ` Sven 'Darkman' Michels
2005-09-29 11:40 ` Patrick Bennett
` (10 subsequent siblings)
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From: Sven 'Darkman' Michels @ 2005-09-29 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
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Søren Boll Overgaard wrote:
|>Can you try and reproduce with mlmmj-1.2.8?
|
| The 1.2.4-1 version of mlmmj is the one currently in the stable branch of
| Debian, and the 1.2.8-7 version in unstable probably won't install on
a host
| running stable.
|
| If it would help, I will be happy to provide a backported version of
1.2.8 that works on Debian stable.
Try this for now: http://noc.sectoor.de/mlmmj_1.2.8-2_i386.deb
Regards,
Sven
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2005-09-29 11:16 ` Sven 'Darkman' Michels
@ 2005-09-29 11:40 ` Patrick Bennett
2005-09-29 11:43 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
` (9 subsequent siblings)
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From: Patrick Bennett @ 2005-09-29 11:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
I wish I had seen that offer before I just apt-get updated to testing. Heh.
Well, anyways, 1.2.8 now installed.... will wait for morning and ask my user
to try posting again.
Thanks for the help,
Patrick
~~~~~~~~~~~~
The 1.2.4-1 version of mlmmj is the one currently in the stable branch of
Debian, and the 1.2.8-7 version in unstable probably won't install on a host
running stable.
If it would help, I will be happy to provide a backported version of 1.2.8
that works on Debian stable.
--
Søren O. ,''`.
: :' :
GPG key id: 0x1EB2DE66 `. `'
GPG signed mail preferred. `-
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2005-09-29 11:40 ` Patrick Bennett
@ 2005-09-29 11:43 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
2005-09-29 20:21 ` Patrick Bennett
` (8 subsequent siblings)
13 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Mads Martin Joergensen @ 2005-09-29 11:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
* Patrick Bennett <patrick@pebcomputing.com> [Sep 29. 2005 13:42]:
> I wish I had seen that offer before I just apt-get updated to testing.
> Heh. Well, anyways, 1.2.8 now installed.... will wait for morning and ask
> my user to try posting again.
And if it fails again, please resend the mail, and the logs as before.
Thanks.
--
Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
-- A. P. J.
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
` (4 preceding siblings ...)
2005-09-29 11:43 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
@ 2005-09-29 20:21 ` Patrick Bennett
2005-09-29 20:48 ` Patrick Bennett
` (7 subsequent siblings)
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From: Patrick Bennett @ 2005-09-29 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
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TIA,
Patrick
~~~~~~ EMAIL 1 ~~~~~~~~
From DPatters@edd.ca.gov Thu Sep 29 20:03:27 2005
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From: "Patterson, Daniel@EDD" <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
To: "'stockton@cielini.org'" <stockton@cielini.org>
Subject: test, trying to get computer savvy
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:08:16 -0700
MIME-Version: 1.0
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sorry about the emails,
Danny
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
` (5 preceding siblings ...)
2005-09-29 20:21 ` Patrick Bennett
@ 2005-09-29 20:48 ` Patrick Bennett
2005-09-29 21:47 ` Patrick Bennett
` (6 subsequent siblings)
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From: Patrick Bennett @ 2005-09-29 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
Hey, I just noticed this: From: "Patterson, Daniel@EDD"
<DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
I assume mlmmj has to parse the from field in order to do the auth
checking... do you think that "@" in the address book label (From:
"Patterson, Daniel@EDD" <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>) is making the parser choke?!
-Patrick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Bennett" <patrick@pebcomputing.com>
To: "Mads Martin Joergensen" <mmj@mmj.dk>; <mlmmj@mmj.dk>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: silently discarded post
> Okay, no change in behaviour with 1.2.8-7 from debian testing.... I can
> hunt thorugh mail.log later today if you think it is necessary. Below are
> the three emails that landed in queue/discarded since the upgrade. Emails
> #2 and #3 were both sent, I believe, by simply selecting a test message I
> successfully posted to the list, hitting the "reply" button, then hitting
> the "send" button- no editing of the message or "To" fileds at all.
>
> TIA,
> Patrick
>
> ~~~~~~ EMAIL 1 ~~~~~~~~
> From DPatters@edd.ca.gov Thu Sep 29 20:03:27 2005
> Return-Path: <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
> X-Original-To: stockton@norcalsolutions.com
> Delivered-To: stockton@norcalsolutions.com
> Received: from newnorcal.norcalsolutions.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
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> (UTC)
> Received: from hwaexbh02.cahwnet.gov (hwaexbh01.cahwnet.gov
> [158.96.104.22])
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> for <stockton@cielini.org>; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:03:24 +0000 (UTC)
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> From: "Patterson, Daniel@EDD" <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
> To: "'stockton@cielini.org'" <stockton@cielini.org>
> Subject: test, trying to get computer savvy
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:08:16 -0700
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
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> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5C531.47286068
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>
> sorry about the emails,
>
> Danny
>
> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5C531.47286068
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> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
> <HTML>
> <HEAD>
> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2658.24">
> <TITLE>test, trying to get computer savvy</TITLE>
> </HEAD>
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>
> <P><FONT FACE="Arial">sorry about the emails, </FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT FACE="Arial">Danny</FONT>
> </P>
>
> </BODY>
> </HTML>
> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5C531.47286068--
>
>
> ~~~~~~~ EMAIL 2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> From DPatters@edd.ca.gov Thu Sep 29 20:01:13 2005
> Return-Path: <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
> X-Original-To: stockton@norcalsolutions.com
> Delivered-To: stockton@norcalsolutions.com
> Received: from newnorcal.norcalsolutions.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by mail.norcalsolutions.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BF1638584
> for <stockton@norcalsolutions.com>; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:01:13 +0000
> (UTC)
> Received: from hwaexbh02.cahwnet.gov (hwaexbh01.cahwnet.gov
> [158.96.104.22])
> by mail.norcalsolutions.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B24838584
> for <stockton@cielini.org>; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:01:11 +0000 (UTC)
> Received: by hwaexbh01.cahwnet.gov with Internet Mail Service
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> Message-ID:
> <1BAAFEA9FFD4D411BB3300805FE685741A0A264D@eddexmb04.cahwnet.gov>
> From: "Patterson, Daniel@EDD" <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
> To: "'stockton@cielini.org'" <stockton@cielini.org>
> Subject: RE: [CL Stockton] test
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:06:06 -0700
> MIME-Version: 1.0
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> X-imss-result: Passed
> X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:2 M:3 S:5 R:5
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>
> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
> this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
>
> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5C531.39CFD69E
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> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Bennett [mailto:patrick@pebcomputing.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:42 AM
> Subject: [CL Stockton] test
>
>
> testing again. please ignore.
>
>
> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5C531.39CFD69E
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> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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>
>
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> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
> size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Patrick Bennett
> [mailto:patrick@pebcomputing.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 29,
> 2005
> 4:42 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CL Stockton] test<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>testing again. please
> ignore.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5C531.39CFD69E--
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~ EMAIL 3 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> From DPatters@edd.ca.gov Thu Sep 29 20:00:16 2005
> Return-Path: <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
> X-Original-To: stockton@norcalsolutions.com
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> for <stockton@cielini.org>; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:00:10 +0000 (UTC)
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> From: "Patterson, Daniel@EDD" <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
> To: "'stockton@cielini.org'" <stockton@cielini.org>
> Subject: RE: [CL Stockton] test - please ignore
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:05:02 -0700
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5C531.138410FE"
> X-imss-version: 2.031
> X-imss-result: Passed
> X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:2 M:3 S:5 R:5
> X-imss-settings: Baseline:3 C:1 M:1 S:2 R:1 (0.5000 0.5000)
>
> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
> this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
>
> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5C531.138410FE
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dumbox [mailto:dumbox@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:22 AM
> Subject: [CL Stockton] test - please ignore
>
>
> this is just a test of the mailing list. please ignore.
>
>
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> size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> dumbox
> [mailto:dumbox@sbcglobal.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 29,
> 2005
> 2:22 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [CL Stockton] test - please
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>this is just a test of the mailing
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mads Martin Joergensen" <mmj@mmj.dk>
> To: <mlmmj@mmj.dk>
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:43 AM
> Subject: Re: silently discarded post
>
>
>>* Patrick Bennett <patrick@pebcomputing.com> [Sep 29. 2005 13:42]:
>>> I wish I had seen that offer before I just apt-get updated to testing.
>>> Heh. Well, anyways, 1.2.8 now installed.... will wait for morning and
>>> ask
>>> my user to try posting again.
>>
>> And if it fails again, please resend the mail, and the logs as before.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
>> "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
>> and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
>> -- A. P. J.
>>
>>
>
>
>
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
` (6 preceding siblings ...)
2005-09-29 20:48 ` Patrick Bennett
@ 2005-09-29 21:47 ` Patrick Bennett
2005-09-30 14:34 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
` (5 subsequent siblings)
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From: Patrick Bennett @ 2005-09-29 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
I pointed this out to the user and he says that listing is kept in a global
directory at work (he is a government employee... take a look at the
address, you can probably guess where) and he has no power to change the way
the listing is set up. Additionally, he won't be able to get anywhere
having the IT Department change the listing for him, since this is about a
email issue for personal use.
Thus, if this is the source of the error, the only way for him to be able to
use the mailing list is for mlmmj to be able to work around it.
-Patrick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Bennett" <patrick@pebcomputing.com>
To: "Mads Martin Joergensen" <mmj@mmj.dk>; <mlmmj@mmj.dk>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: silently discarded post
> Hey, I just noticed this: From: "Patterson, Daniel@EDD"
> <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
>
> I assume mlmmj has to parse the from field in order to do the auth
> checking... do you think that "@" in the address book label (From:
> "Patterson, Daniel@EDD" <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>) is making the parser
> choke?!
>
> -Patrick
>
>
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
` (7 preceding siblings ...)
2005-09-29 21:47 ` Patrick Bennett
@ 2005-09-30 14:34 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
2005-09-30 14:38 ` Sven 'Darkman' Michels
` (4 subsequent siblings)
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From: Mads Martin Joergensen @ 2005-09-30 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
* Patrick Bennett <patrick@pebcomputing.com> [Sep 29. 2005 23:50]:
> I pointed this out to the user and he says that listing is kept in a
> global directory at work (he is a government employee... take a look
> at the address, you can probably guess where) and he has no power to
> change the way the listing is set up. Additionally, he won't be able
> to get anywhere having the IT Department change the listing for him,
> since this is about a email issue for personal use.
>
> Thus, if this is the source of the error, the only way for him to be
> able to use the mailing list is for mlmmj to be able to work around
> it.
It is the source of the error, and very hard to work around. Reason
mlmmj discards it, is that it's not a valid from with two email adresses
in it, and then it's thrown away.
--
Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
-- A. P. J.
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
` (8 preceding siblings ...)
2005-09-30 14:34 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
@ 2005-09-30 14:38 ` Sven 'Darkman' Michels
2005-09-30 14:41 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
` (3 subsequent siblings)
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From: Sven 'Darkman' Michels @ 2005-09-30 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
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Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:
| It is the source of the error, and very hard to work around. Reason
| mlmmj discards it, is that it's not a valid from with two email adresses
| in it, and then it's thrown away.
How about checking the Return-Path instead of the From for such
checks? No bullshitsigns from bloated mailsystems and normally the
same address (if not its probably a spoofing, so it would work ok)
or did i forgot something?
Regards,
Darkman
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
` (9 preceding siblings ...)
2005-09-30 14:38 ` Sven 'Darkman' Michels
@ 2005-09-30 14:41 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
2005-09-30 15:36 ` Neale Pickett
` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: Mads Martin Joergensen @ 2005-09-30 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
* Sven 'Darkman' Michels <sven@darkman.de> [Sep 30. 2005 16:38]:
> | It is the source of the error, and very hard to work around. Reason
> | mlmmj discards it, is that it's not a valid from with two email adresses
> | in it, and then it's thrown away.
>
> How about checking the Return-Path instead of the From for such
> checks? No bullshitsigns from bloated mailsystems and normally the
> same address (if not its probably a spoofing, so it would work ok)
> or did i forgot something?
It's already done on both :-)
So we can be less restrictive.
--
Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
-- A. P. J.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread
* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
` (10 preceding siblings ...)
2005-09-30 14:41 ` Mads Martin Joergensen
@ 2005-09-30 15:36 ` Neale Pickett
2005-09-30 15:56 ` Patrick Bennett
2005-09-30 17:36 ` Neale Pickett
13 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Neale Pickett @ 2005-09-30 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
On Friday 30 September 2005 08:34 am, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:
> It is the source of the error, and very hard to work around. Reason
> mlmmj discards it, is that it's not a valid from with two email adresses
> in it, and then it's thrown away.
The original header value was:
From: "Patterson, Daniel@EDD" <DPatters@edd.ca.gov>
This is perfectly valid according to both RFC 822 and RFC 2822, and parsing
this as two addresses is an error. I'll work on a patch to correctly parse
it, but I can't promise anything right away.
The stuff inside the quotation marks is considered a "display-name" in the RFC
2822 BNF, section 3.4:
address = mailbox / group
mailbox = name-addr / addr-spec
name-addr = [display-name] angle-addr
angle-addr = [CFWS] "<" addr-spec ">" [CFWS] / obs-angle-addr
group = display-name ":" [mailbox-list / CFWS] ";"
[CFWS]
display-name = phrase
mailbox-list = (mailbox *("," mailbox)) / obs-mbox-list
address-list = (address *("," address)) / obs-addr-list
And then "phrase" is defined in section 3.2.6:
word = atom / quoted-string
phrase = 1*word / obs-phrase
And "quoted string" is discussed in 3.2.5:
qtext = NO-WS-CTL / ; Non white space controls
%d33 / ; The rest of the US-ASCII
%d35-91 / ; characters not including "\"
%d93-126 ; or the quote character
qcontent = qtext / quoted-pair
quoted-string = [CFWS]
DQUOTE *([FWS] qcontent) [FWS] DQUOTE
[CFWS]
Correctly parsing all valid email addresses is a pain. I can't find any
non-GPL code that does it but I haven't looked too hard.
Neale
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
` (11 preceding siblings ...)
2005-09-30 15:36 ` Neale Pickett
@ 2005-09-30 15:56 ` Patrick Bennett
2005-09-30 17:36 ` Neale Pickett
13 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Bennett @ 2005-09-30 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mads Martin Joergensen" <mmj@mmj.dk>
To: <mlmmj@mmj.dk>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: silently discarded post
>* Patrick Bennett <patrick@pebcomputing.com> [Sep 29. 2005 23:50]:
>> I pointed this out to the user and he says that listing is kept in a
>> global directory at work (he is a government employee... take a look
>> at the address, you can probably guess where) and he has no power to
>> change the way the listing is set up. Additionally, he won't be able
>> to get anywhere having the IT Department change the listing for him,
>> since this is about a email issue for personal use.
>>
>> Thus, if this is the source of the error, the only way for him to be
>> able to use the mailing list is for mlmmj to be able to work around
>> it.
>
> It is the source of the error, and very hard to work around. Reason
> mlmmj discards it, is that it's not a valid from with two email adresses
> in it, and then it's thrown away.
>
I wonder if this could be (from a logical standpoint) handled in one of the
following two ways, and whether it would make sense to program this logic
into mlmmj:
1) Even though it is not a "valid from" if it contains (what appear to be)
two email addresses and one of the two is on the authorized-to-post-list,
the mail is accepted;
or
2) here's a quick survey of "From" fields in the message sources in my
inbox:
From: "Patterson, Daniel@EDD" <DPatters@edd.ca.gov> (the offending example)
From: "renatofea@yahoo.com.br" <renatofea@yahoo.com.br>
From: Mads Martin Joergensen <mmj@mmj.dk>
From: root@norcalsolutions.com
From: Arno van Amersfoort <arnova@rocky.eld.leidenuniv.nl>
If there is a matching pair of <>, everything inside the "" (if they exist),
or everything prior to < should be discarded. Or perhaps it would be better
to simply scan the "From" field and first discard everything inside quotes,
before searching it for an @?
As I see it, the problem isn't so much a bloated mailer (even though it
probably is bloated), it's that the @ symbol is considered a valid character
for the "name" field of many mailers' email account settings (and now I see
Neale's reply that this is within the RFC's). I've just tested outlook
express and mozilla thunderbird and both accepted @'s. I believe my user is
using outlook. Theoretically, lots of mlmmj users and administrators - and
not just ones using microsoft mailers - could run into this
two-@'s-in-the-from-field snafu.
TIA,
Patrick
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* Re: silently discarded post
2005-09-29 10:37 silently discarded post Patrick Bennett
` (12 preceding siblings ...)
2005-09-30 15:56 ` Patrick Bennett
@ 2005-09-30 17:36 ` Neale Pickett
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From: Neale Pickett @ 2005-09-30 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mlmmj
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On Friday 30 September 2005 09:36 am, Neale Pickett wrote:
> This is perfectly valid according to both RFC 822 and RFC 2822, and parsing
> this as two addresses is an error. I'll work on a patch to correctly parse
> it, but I can't promise anything right away.
Perhaps the following will be of some assistance. I ripped the code from
BSD's "mail" program.
Neale
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/* Some crap from BSD mail to parse email addresses */
/*
* Copyright (c) 1980, 1993
* The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
*
* Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
* modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
* are met:
* 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
* notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
* 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
* notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
* documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
* 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
* must display the following acknowledgement:
* This product includes software developed by the University of
* California, Berkeley and its contributors.
* 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors
* may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software
* without specific prior written permission.
*
* THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND
* ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
* IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
* ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE
* FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL
* DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS
* OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION)
* HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT
* LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY
* OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF
* SUCH DAMAGE.
*/
#include <string.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
char *skin(char *);
/*
* Start of a "comment".
* Ignore it.
*/
char *
skip_comment(cp)
char *cp;
{
int nesting = 1;
for (; nesting > 0 && *cp; cp++) {
switch (*cp) {
case '\\':
if (cp[1])
cp++;
break;
case '(':
nesting++;
break;
case ')':
nesting--;
break;
}
}
return (cp);
}
/*
* Skin an arpa net address according to the RFC 822 interpretation
* of "host-phrase."
*/
char *
skin(name)
char *name;
{
char *nbuf, *bufend, *cp, *cp2;
int c, gotlt, lastsp;
if (name == NULL)
return (NULL);
if (strchr(name, '(') == NULL && strchr(name, '<') == NULL
&& strchr(name, ' ') == NULL)
return (name);
/* We assume that length(input) <= length(output) */
if ((nbuf = malloc(strlen(name) + 1)) == NULL)
err(1, "Out of memory");
gotlt = 0;
lastsp = 0;
bufend = nbuf;
for (cp = name, cp2 = bufend; (c = *cp++) != '\0'; ) {
switch (c) {
case '(':
cp = skip_comment(cp);
lastsp = 0;
break;
case '"':
/*
* Start of a "quoted-string".
* Copy it in its entirety.
*/
while ((c = *cp) != '\0') {
cp++;
if (c == '"')
break;
if (c != '\\')
*cp2++ = c;
else if ((c = *cp) != '\0') {
*cp2++ = c;
cp++;
}
}
lastsp = 0;
break;
case ' ':
if (cp[0] == 'a' && cp[1] == 't' && cp[2] == ' ')
cp += 3, *cp2++ = '@';
else
if (cp[0] == '@' && cp[1] == ' ')
cp += 2, *cp2++ = '@';
else
lastsp = 1;
break;
case '<':
cp2 = bufend;
gotlt++;
lastsp = 0;
break;
case '>':
if (gotlt) {
gotlt = 0;
while ((c = *cp) != '\0' && c != ',') {
cp++;
if (c == '(')
cp = skip_comment(cp);
else if (c == '"')
while ((c = *cp) != '\0') {
cp++;
if (c == '"')
break;
if (c == '\\' && *cp != '\0')
cp++;
}
}
lastsp = 0;
break;
}
/* FALLTHROUGH */
default:
if (lastsp) {
lastsp = 0;
*cp2++ = ' ';
}
*cp2++ = c;
if (c == ',' && *cp == ' ' && !gotlt) {
*cp2++ = ' ';
while (*++cp == ' ')
;
lastsp = 0;
bufend = cp2;
}
}
}
*cp2 = '\0';
if ((cp = realloc(nbuf, strlen(nbuf) + 1)) != NULL)
nbuf = cp;
return (nbuf);
}
/* This part was written by Neale Pickett <neale@woozle.org>.
*
* I guess I'll release it for distribution under the same terms as BSD
* mail.
*/
#ifndef GOOB
void
tryit(char *str)
{
char *foo;
printf("Trying \"%s\"...\t", str);
foo = skin(str);
if (0 != strcmp(foo, "neale@woozle.org")) {
printf("returned %s. No good.\n",
foo);
exit(1);
} else {
printf("Bitchen.\n");
}
free(foo);
}
int
main()
{
char *foo;
tryit("neale@woozle.org");
tryit("Neale Pickett <neale@woozle.org>");
tryit("\"Neale Pickett\" <neale@woozle.org>");
tryit("\"Neale Pickett@woozle\" <neale@woozle.org>");
tryit("neale@woozle.org (Neale Pickett)");
tryit("neale@woozle.org (Neale \"Crashmaster\" Pickett)");
tryit("neale@woozle.org (Neale Pickett@woozle)");
tryit("neale(I am such a badass)@woozle.org");
tryit("neale(\"The Man\")@woozle(not heffalump).org (Neale Pickett@woozle)");
printf("Everything worked. Congratulations.\n");
return 0;
}
#endif
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