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From: Mike Christie <mchristi@redhat.com>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
	glommer@br.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp,
	linux-ntfs-dev@lists.sourceforge.net, aia21@cantab.net,
	hch@infradead.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use of getblk differs between locations
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:58:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <434DB140.7050404@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1129017679.12336.7.camel@imp.csi.cam.ac.uk>

Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-10-10 at 18:07 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
>>Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>>
>>> > Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Maybe the best solution is neither one nor another. Testing and failing
>>> >> > gracefully seems better.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > What do you think?
>>> >>
>>> >>  I certainly agree with you there.  I neither want a deadlock nor
>>> >>  corruption.  (-:
>>> >
>>> > Yup.  In the present implementation __getblk_slow() "cannot fail".  It's
>>> > conceivable that at some future stage we'll change __getblk_slow() so that
>>> > it returns NULL on an out-of-memory condition.
>>>
>>> The question is if it is desired --- it will make bread return NULL on 
>>> out-of-memory condition, callers will treat it like an IO error, skipping 
>>> access to the affected block, causing damage on perfectly healthy 
>>> filesystem.
>>
>>Yes, that is a bit dumb.  A filesystem might indeed want to take different
>>action for ENOMEM versus EIO.
>>
>>
>>> I liked what linux-2.0 did in this case --- if the kernel was out of 
>>> memory, getblk just took another buffer, wrote it if it was dirty and used 
>>> it. Except for writeable loopback device (where writing one buffer 
>>> generates more dirty buffers), it couldn't deadlock.
>>
>>Wouldn't it be better if bread() were to return ERR_PTR(-EIO) or
>>ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM)?    Big change.
> 
> 
> It would indeed.  Much better.  And whilst at it, it would be even
> better if we had a lot more error codes like "ERR_PTR(-EDEVUNPLUGGED)"
> for example...  But that would be an even better change.  Anyone feeling
> like touching every block driver in the kernel?  (-;
> 

I have actually done this
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-scsi&m=112487427230642&w=2
(this is just the bio users, the end_that_request_first/chunk users are 
in another patch).

I am just trying to figure out how to support some wierd scsi HW before 
reposting. If you have suggestions about how to implement the bitmap 
suggestion in that thread I am listening too (I implemented it like 
scsi's scsi_cmnd result field).

      reply	other threads:[~2005-10-13  0:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-10 20:45 [PATCH] Use of getblk differs between locations Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-10 21:20 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-10 21:46   ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-10 21:58     ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-10 22:25       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-10 22:49         ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-10 23:12           ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-10 23:16             ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-10 23:33               ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-10 23:33                 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-10 23:34                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-10 23:34                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-10 23:49                   ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-11  7:52           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-12 19:51             ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-10-12 19:59               ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-12 20:07                 ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-10-12 20:12                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-12 20:14                     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-12 20:31                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-12 21:19                         ` Jeff Mahoney
2005-10-12 21:35                         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-14 11:32                           ` Al Boldi
2005-10-13  0:09                     ` Jamie Lokier
2005-10-13  0:21                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-13  0:27                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-10-13 11:17                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-10-14 16:52                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-10-14 16:52                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-10-14 18:26                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-13  0:05                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-10-12 20:08               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-10 22:36       ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-10 22:28         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-10 23:36           ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-11  0:07             ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-11  0:05               ` Al Viro
2005-10-11  0:40                 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2005-10-11 12:35                   ` Jan Hudec
2005-10-11  0:09             ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-11  1:07               ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-11  1:20                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-10-11  5:02                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-11  5:02                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-11  8:07                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-11  8:01                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-10-13  0:58                   ` Mike Christie [this message]

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