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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Binoy Jayan <binoy.jayan@linaro.org>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	Mustafa Ismail <mustafa.ismail@intel.com>,
	Lijun Ou <oulijun@huawei.com>,
	Nicholas Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@mellanox.com>,
	target-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	Tatyana E Nikolova <tatyana.e.nikolova@intel.com>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Jenny Derzhavetz <jennyf@mellanox.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	Faisal Latif <faisal.latif@intel.com>,
	Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Wei Hu(Xavier)" <xavier.huwei@huawei.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Mark Bloch <markb@mellanox.com>,
	Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/9] IB/core: Replace semaphore sm_sem with an atomic wait
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 17:52:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4374986.OFD8bCgUa1@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxGjaqduhRCyk0mVxEA7aqQ-omdG8SBreZ=x5cW2ovngQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday, November 21, 2016 7:57:53 AM CET Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Don't do this.
> 
> Never ever do your own locking primitives. You will get the memory ordering
> wrong. And even if you get it right, why do it?
> 
> If you want to get rid of semaphores, and replace them with a mutex, that's
> OK. But don't replace them with something more complex like an open coded
> waiting model.

I think a mutex would't work here, since fops->open() and fops->close()
are not called from the same context and lockdep will complain
about that.

Version of the series had replaced the semaphore with a completion
here, which worked correctly, but one reviewer suggested using
the wait_event() instead since it's confusing to have a completion
starting out in 'completed' state.

	Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Binoy Jayan <binoy.jayan@linaro.org>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	Mustafa Ismail <mustafa.ismail@intel.com>,
	Lijun Ou <oulijun@huawei.com>,
	Nicholas Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@mellanox.com>,
	target-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	Tatyana E Nikolova <tatyana.e.nikolova@intel.com>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Jenny Derzhavetz <jennyf@mellanox.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
	Faisal Latif <faisal.latif@intel.com>,
	Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Wei Hu(Xavier)" <xavier.huwei@huawei.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Mark Bloch <markb@mellanox.com>,
	Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>,
	Matan Barak <matanb@mellanox.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagig@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/9] IB/core: Replace semaphore sm_sem with an atomic wait
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 17:52:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4374986.OFD8bCgUa1@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxGjaqduhRCyk0mVxEA7aqQ-omdG8SBreZ=x5cW2ovngQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday, November 21, 2016 7:57:53 AM CET Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Don't do this.
> 
> Never ever do your own locking primitives. You will get the memory ordering
> wrong. And even if you get it right, why do it?
> 
> If you want to get rid of semaphores, and replace them with a mutex, that's
> OK. But don't replace them with something more complex like an open coded
> waiting model.

I think a mutex would't work here, since fops->open() and fops->close()
are not called from the same context and lockdep will complain
about that.

Version of the series had replaced the semaphore with a completion
here, which worked correctly, but one reviewer suggested using
the wait_event() instead since it's confusing to have a completion
starting out in 'completed' state.

	Arnd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-21 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-21  6:08 [PATCH v5 0/9] infiniband: Remove semaphores Binoy Jayan
2016-11-21  6:08 ` Binoy Jayan
2016-11-21  6:08 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] IB/core: iwpm_nlmsg_request: Replace semaphore with completion Binoy Jayan
2016-11-21  6:08 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] IB/core: Replace semaphore sm_sem with an atomic wait Binoy Jayan
     [not found]   ` <CA+55aFxGjaqduhRCyk0mVxEA7aqQ-omdG8SBreZ=x5cW2ovngQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-11-21 16:52     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2016-11-21 16:52       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-21 16:57       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-11-21 16:57         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-11-21 17:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-21 17:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-21 22:51         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-21 22:51           ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] ` <1479708496-9828-1-git-send-email-binoy.jayan-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-21  6:08   ` [PATCH v5 3/9] IB/hns: Replace semaphore poll_sem with mutex Binoy Jayan
2016-11-21  6:08     ` Binoy Jayan
2016-11-21  6:08 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] IB/mthca: " Binoy Jayan
2016-11-21  6:08 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] IB/isert: Replace semaphore sem with completion Binoy Jayan
2016-11-21  7:36   ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-11-21 10:22     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-21 10:22       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-21 12:33       ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-11-21 12:33         ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-11-21 14:50         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-21 14:50           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-21  6:08 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] IB/hns: Replace counting semaphore event_sem with wait_event Binoy Jayan
2016-11-21  6:08 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] IB/mthca: " Binoy Jayan
2016-11-21  6:08 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] IB/mlx5: Add helper mlx5_ib_post_send_wait Binoy Jayan
2016-11-21  6:08 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] IB/mlx5: Replace semaphore umr_common:sem with wait_event Binoy Jayan

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